Suicides almost double among 50-somethings
May 3rd, 2013
10:48 AM ET

Suicides almost double among 50-somethings

Teen suicides often get the most media attention - tragic stories like that of Canadian teen Amanda Todd remind us that depression is a serious mental health issue for adolescents. But a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows more attention needs to be directed at preventing suicide in adults as well.

Between 1999 and 2010, suicides in the 35-to-64 age group increased 28.4%, according to the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. Suicides among people aged 50 to 59 years old specifically almost doubled during that time period.

More than 38,000 Americans killed themselves in 2010; that's more than double those who were killed in a homicide that same year, according to the CDC. In 2009, the number of deaths from suicide in the United States surpassed the number of deaths from motor vehicle crashes for the first time.

“Suicide is a tragedy that is far too common,” CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden said in a statement. “This report highlights the need to expand our knowledge of risk factors so we can build on prevention programs that prevent suicide.”

Suicide rates in this age group were highest among American Indians and Alaska Natives, according to the report. The next biggest increase was seen in whites. Among American Indians and Alaska Natives, the suicide rate for women jumped 81.4%; for men it was a 59.5% increase.

The three most common suicide methods were firearms, poisoning and suffocation.

Nobody has data yet on why suicides are increasing in this age group, says Lanny Berman, executive director of the American Association of Suicidology. "But the working assumption is that it's related to the economic recession."

The 2007 recession affected middle-aged males more than any other demographic, he says. Job loss and other financial difficulties can lead to depression.

We're probably never going to have a causal explanation for the growing suicide rate, Berman says, but future research may be able to show specific trends that were occurring side-by-side during the same time period.

If you or a loved one needs help, please call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255) or visit Suicidepreventionlifeline.org.

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  1. wilson

    So far, most of the comments are directed towards financial issues as the reason for suicide. I think a large factor also goes into loneliness and a feeling that the best part of life is over. If you are in your 50's and have no close family bonds, and your social structure is poor, then it is easy to start thinking there is no reason to live. Compound loneliness with failure, regret, loss of hope for a bright future and add any financial stress and you have the perfect reason for someone to take their own life. In order to live one has to have something to live for and to look forward to or it's just not worth doing.

    May 4, 2013 at 01:53 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Jim S in KC

      You are right, wilson. Survival instinct alone might be enough to keep many people going, but others need some other reason. And in the absence of any meaningful relationships – personal or professional – the struggle to merely survive in order to live to do again tomorrow seems not just pointless, but stupid. 150 years ago I might have gone out into the wilderness to live off the land, but that's not an option now. So I, like many others, am stuck with an economic landscape that does not work in my favor. And without other incentives, such as might be found through personal ties, suicide in one form or another seems an obvious choice.

      May 4, 2013 at 02:38 | Report abuse |
    • Expected

      An overwhelming majority of baby boomers reaching 50 or so have always shared characteristics such as being less optimistic, generally cynical, distrustful, puffed up with a sense of authority. Couple all that with general aging and end of life issues, and the hard reality checks such as losing money and investments due to the economic troubles, this increased rate of suicides is not even surprising.

      May 4, 2013 at 02:46 | Report abuse |
    • Florist

      I think a definite factor is that Americans put down people who are older. If you're out of your 20s in this country, you're called names and devalued.

      May 4, 2013 at 03:17 | Report abuse |
    • Jim S in KC

      Florist, being disrespected by youth is a fairly small annoyance. Being discarded or retained and abused by the privileged few of my same age group for the financial gain of their concerns... to the absolute detriment of my livelihood – now that's a problem!

      May 4, 2013 at 03:39 | Report abuse |
    • Content

      Confucius said "The ones who are content is happy often."

      In China there are lots of people still live under poverty line. They have no time to think about taking themselves out but to thrive to make changes for better. You don't hear people kill themselves randomly, at least not many.

      People need to be taught how to be content.

      May 4, 2013 at 03:46 | Report abuse |
    • Jehan S

      @Content what a bunch of hooey. China's suicide rate is double ours.

      May 4, 2013 at 04:04 | Report abuse |
    • Jim S in KC

      Content, I wish it were as simple as that. I don't know where you live, but I exist in the confines of this country and its economic climate. Perhaps if I lived in China or had enough money/access to fantastic weed, I'd be all "don't worry-be happy." This is a mathematics issue: income<cost of living.

      May 4, 2013 at 04:07 | Report abuse |
    • Half Century and counting

      Sadly our employers and corporations have trashed older workers in the name of greed. Seniority is no longer an asset. Labor unions, which helped keep a balance in the workforce and pay scale, have been crushed by the GOP. Their "job creators" only care about cheap, foreign, young labor (aka new era slavery).
      It's not going to get better until folks stop voting for the greed-mongers who prop up the Republican party.

      May 4, 2013 at 08:15 | Report abuse |
    • Half Century and counting

      I love all of the derogatory comments about baby boomers. Likely a form of 30-something teen angst left over in our Gen-Y and millennial offspring – not to mention depressed Gen-Xers who are upside-down in their mortgages.
      Anyway, old age is gonna creep up on ya'll faster than a cheetah. Do you think the corporate greed-mongers (aka "job creators") going to treat you any better in your 50s?? ROFLMAO
      All generations need to stick together in this battle over fair and equal employment. Perhaps age discrimination needs a more prominent role in modern hiring.
      Otherwise you're going to be supporting your parents – and your grand parents. Or, they'll just move in with you. Why do you think Social Security and Medicare were enacted? Maybe to protect American families from financial ruin at a time they're trying to put their own kids through college? Ya think??

      May 4, 2013 at 08:26 | Report abuse |

      Very true.

      May 4, 2013 at 08:26 | Report abuse |
    • bobo

      your right. Am 24 and im already feeling what your saying. Im close with family but have held few relationships with the opposite sex and starting to doubt i will ever be with someone. Compounded by the fact that am still at home and going to school without a stable income. My weekends consist of binge drinking and trying to talk to girls. I held a job but it was dead end. I'm starting not to see a purpose anymore ...by 50 this should be worst. Dont worry though im in no way saying i will do something to myself am just relating to your post. Its like the movie fight club...i feel like its all jus work 9-5 and have no life, american slaves

      May 4, 2013 at 08:46 | Report abuse |
    • porichkid

      well said

      May 4, 2013 at 08:58 | Report abuse |
    • Nathan

      True, except those factors have always been there. The sudden increase in the last few years probably has an additional cause that has only occurred in the last few years. And the most obvious one is the economic situation–people in their 50s moving toward retirement suddenly losing their lifelong retirement savings in the market right before they need it, people with long-standing careers seeing them go away and finding it particularly hard to find jobs in the market due to their age, etc.

      I'm sure the reasons you mention play into it, but they don't explain the sudden, nearly doubled rate of suicide.

      May 4, 2013 at 10:13 | Report abuse |
    • Lark

      To Wilson: exactly! so why don't we have "suicide enabling" hotlines? Why prevent it? You can't "fix" the issues a person in his/her 50s has! He/she will never be young again, can never "unhave" children or go back to have some. We don't "need" people in their 50s, 60s, etc. - the exceptions are those on whom many depend, literally.

      May 4, 2013 at 15:31 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      Content makes a very important point. Happiness comes from within. However, chinas brand of contentment sucks bc there is little freedom there. Any one can force prison inmates to be content by drugging them and china basically forces contentment by threatening people with prison or death if they stand up for themselves. It is a living death for the Chinese. That is not contentment, but slavery.

      May 5, 2013 at 07:47 | Report abuse |
    • Frankly A.

      Try waking up in severe pain every day without any relief in sight due to the FDA &DEA scaring Dr.s from treating pain. One of my divorce attorney's was a practicing Catholic. Her mom was 100% believer. She, a 65+ yr old grandmother shot her brains out-absolute suicide, because her terminal cancer pain was unbearable. (BIG do not do for Catholics-could not be buried in the family plot & was posthumously excommunicated.) Her oncologist didn't want to prescribe stronger pain medication, as he didn't want her to get 'addicted'. She had only 6-12 months, so it was not a question of tolerance. It had nothing to do with $$, as this was during the Bush admin. Suicide is selfish, stupid, soulless, sorrowful, &just plain sad. Someone you know or knew will always wonder "why didn't they call me?" Well, why didn't they call you?...Please don't hurt anyone-take the sadness & the rage & e-mail it so your voice can be heard. What the H do I know...just a 53 yr old gal who would not leave that legacy to anyone.

      May 8, 2013 at 08:21 | Report abuse |
    • tcp

      Hey Bobo...try moving to a country where you REALLY have problems. Binge drinking and trolling for chicks, oh, what a miserable existence...

      June 7, 2013 at 11:43 | Report abuse |
  2. Rogue351

    Maybe it is because of what Wall Street along with George Bush and Dick Cheney did to everyones retirement investments ? Work your whole life and have the rug pulled out from under you by the GOP. And don't for one second say it was Obama fault. Cheney and Bush are personally responsible for more American deaths on US soil. And they are building libraries after the guy ? And the GOP / Tea party / Religious right are constantly complaining about what is wrong with America. Then to top it off the GOP / Tea Party try to repeal Obamacare, make it easier to get a gun. Big business only cares about new Ferrari and 20 something 3rd wives for their CEO's with golden parachutes. All the while the brain washed religious right GOP / Tea party spout off stop helping everyone, if they want it they should have earned it. Well Mr. GOP some did earn IT and some lost it because of your political party and now it is impossible for everyone who lost it to get it back. And for the Religious right and the Tea Party letting people die sick, broke and shat upon after working their entire lives just so one more Wall Street banker can add a couple of zeros to his check book deposit is about as immoral as it gets.

    May 4, 2013 at 01:54 | Report abuse | Reply
    • brown

      Your words have much truth.

      May 4, 2013 at 02:08 | Report abuse |
    • CD in AZ

      Bush/Cheney/Teaparty/religion is to fault? Are you serious? Who gave Wall Street a 1 Trillion bailout? Your stupidity knows no bounds.

      May 4, 2013 at 02:16 | Report abuse |
    • Charles

      Your words ring true – the GOP has led a regression in the financial well being of the country, especially the middle class. And there is rampant age discrimination in American – as a 50 something who has looked for work for a decade and had numerous interviews that never went further I can attest to this personally. I am fortunate that I have a skill set that allows me to earn a living by self-employment, but that is a rocky roller coaster and there can be long dry spells. There are times when just ending it seems like a pretty reasonable alternative.

      May 4, 2013 at 02:16 | Report abuse |
    • JimmySD

      Is this CD guy serious?

      That guys like him have been brainwashed into thinking that Obama and not Bush gave Wall Street a $1 trillion bailout is why the GOP sociopaths keep getting re-elected.

      May 4, 2013 at 03:13 | Report abuse |
    • simplyput

      You can always tell the young political hacks who are willing to dance on the graves of suicides in the middle of the night because they don't know that the jobs that paid well with benefits acutually left the country under Bill Clinton.

      May 4, 2013 at 03:47 | Report abuse |
    • Rogue351

      The GOP wants us to return to the 1950 basically but the one thing they don't mention about the 1950 is that America did not have nearly as many millionaires and billionaires as it does today. They don't realize that companies would have to pay their employees twice what the currently pay them so one parent could stay in the home with the children. And the certainly never mention that the guns of today, the same ones that are the choice weapon by nearly every nut was not available to the public, it was being developed for the military not for the sportsman that needs a 100 round clip to kill a deer. They also forget to mention that recreational shooting was mainly done with a 22 caliber not a 50 caliber. They also conveniently forget that women had no voice and african Americans were still being lynched. It is 2013 and a RED state in the south just had their first interracial high school prom and people still protested it. The GOP / Tea Party considers progressive or liberals backwards, haters, dead beats. But imagine if as a country we had not been liberal and progressive enough to allow integrated proms, woman in the work place earning what a man does. How much closer would we as a nation resemble the Taliban we have been fighting for human rights violations ? Somedays I really wonder just how far down that road of hate and discrimination the GOP / Tea Party would take us in an attempt to get back to those days in the 1950 of being the best years of the United States. One one other thing the GOP neglects to tell you is what exactly happened to all of that money that drained out of the market during the collapse. It did not just vanish. It went into people pockets, most of which are the same people who fund organizations like FOX News, Glenn Beck, etc. With the record and values displayed over and over again by the GOP / Tea Party during the last 13 years it has to be something in the water that keeps these people voting for them. It's like hiring a third time felon to guard your house, kids and back accounts. then they are actually surprised when they come home from work and everything is gone and they are the one being blamed. It is truly beyond reason.

      May 4, 2013 at 04:13 | Report abuse |
    • Knghtshingrmour

      It was the liberal community redevelopment act selling houses to people who could not afford them, it was a bipartisan repeal of Glass-Stegel allowing banks to hold the debt on these subprime homes. It is obamanomics where older more experienced workers are being flushed down the toilet to make room for corporate profits

      May 4, 2013 at 04:36 | Report abuse |
    • Phil

      You seem to have forgotten several other contributing factors to the crash. Gramm–Leach–Bliley which repealed Glass-Steagall and was signed by Bill Clinton in 1999, Commodities and futures modernization act (which brought down AIG) signed by Bill Clinton. To be fair, the collapse was the result of collusion by both parties.

      May 4, 2013 at 07:35 | Report abuse |
    • sherman

      I am sorry that the rest of you didn't see the giant roulette wheel attached tot he front of the stock exchange. I did real estate and did much better. and got out before the tank, except one paid for house that should cheer me up. really it could be worse than not being able to buy milk till next thursday...

      May 4, 2013 at 09:29 | Report abuse |
    • Bree

      Actually Rogue, alot of it is due to the current administration. I'm over 50, and because of o, I am making 1/3 of what I was making in the Bush years, (without insurance now). I see the country is going in a hole and I just don't see much future and am just tired. Yes, Bush took us to war...but o is taking us in a much more dangerous place. Sometimes I'm actually glad that I'm as old as I am, I don't want to see the future of where we are going. I feel sorry for my grandchildren that will never see the times that you don't have to worry about running a marathon without being blown up, that you can't just take people for their word and trust that you can be safe around others, that our children in the USA aren't being prompted to be self relient. America as it is right now is in chaos- About the work force...haven't you noticed that the quality of production is horrible? In the past, young workers learned from the older ones quality and the satisfaction of a job well done. I know that I did and it made me progress to a higher level of employment. Well guess what? Now the older worker is passed over for the younger incompetent ones. High school antics and cliques aren't approriet in the work force.

      May 4, 2013 at 10:12 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      Bush/Cheney was worst duo to lead this nation since nixon and Agnew and bush Cheney far more awful in policies. That being said, they owe u or me or anyone nothing. It was this nation that was dumb enough to let them get close enough to steal the election in 2000

      May 5, 2013 at 07:51 | Report abuse |
    • Frankly A.

      Married to a trust fund baby. He tried 'venture capitalism'-basically tried to build companies w/ his $$ ti create better than min-wage jobs w/ health ins.-etc. Not all people with big checkbooks are the same. However, the ones you described-I've never met any $$ person like that-am certain they are out there. But please don't dis the entire barrel for 1/3 bad (OK-really bad) apples. Who do you think payed for the company insurance when jobs were not federalized? Oh, the original tea party is why we got out from under a despots thumb. The anti tea party took away my freedom of speech-whith aplomb, &LOL. Keep an open mind, not a vacuous one. (Not specifically intended @ you, but one-sided zealots-they scare me; a lot! Either 'side'. If I had 1/2 a biscuit & came across you, hungry, tired, on the walking road...I would share. If you had no food for days, & I ate 1/2 the biscuit earlier-I'd eat the crumbs from what was left after I gave you all my food. A zealot might bash me in the head to get what I was going to give in the 1st place-if he had let me talk to him. Hunger kills & you can't eat bullets. Look at justice, she is blindfolded with a scale. Weigh things in your heart of hearts. If I don't share your feelings-I'd still share my biscuit. Then again, I've been told I am way too forgiving & naïve. I'm keeping the crumbs-OK?

      May 8, 2013 at 08:42 | Report abuse |
    • Saundra J. Raynor

      Bravo! It's too bad the Wall Street bandits won't even read this blog. Imagine what they could do to help people – just putting a small percentage of their enormous income into a fund to help others would go a long way . . . .

      June 8, 2013 at 20:42 | Report abuse |
  3. Bob

    But wait, the gun nuts say that guns are rarely ever used in a suicide... They must hear that at their weekly NRA brainwashing club meeting.

    May 4, 2013 at 01:54 | Report abuse | Reply
    • George of the Jingle

      And don't forget the abortion nuts too

      May 4, 2013 at 02:22 | Report abuse |
    • Obooba

      How about the millions of babies Obooba and his regime kill each year?

      May 4, 2013 at 09:30 | Report abuse |
    • Lark

      not correct. Firearms are the #1 tool for suicide, followed now by (yay!) hanging, which just overtook drugs. I think more people should leap: cliffs, waterfalls, etc.

      The wonder to me is that suicide is so rare. People are just cowards. And if there were easier, foolproof methods, or encouragement from power structures (monkey house!) people could just tidy up their affairs and self-eliminate. Check out the websites about "best methods." This isn't some kind of scourge; this is a good trend. Instead of dating sites, we need "goodbye" sites.

      May 4, 2013 at 15:37 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      What lark said about leaping reminded me of some very beautiful poetry that was written back in 2002 about the "jumpers" of the World Trade Center on 9/11. It spoke of how when they looked down at the streets, they saw rivers of gold and it had touching and eloquent metaphors about how they were already in heaven when they jumped. Wish I could find that again. I am atheist and usually not moved by such things but that was different.

      May 5, 2013 at 07:58 | Report abuse |
    • Frankly A.

      Look up CDC stats-they are not used as often as you may think. Why does everyone w/ a gun have to be a nut? I was a nut WAY before I had a gun...Joking here...(guns scare me, won't have one until I have a gun safety course-NRA provides them for free.) My ex has a guitar, & he's way nuttier than me. Come to think of it, if he had a gun-I WOULD be really scared...not joking! NRA teaches firearm safety. Do you know how to be safe around a firearm? Yeah, swords are way better; you never have to re-load.

      May 8, 2013 at 08:50 | Report abuse |
  4. marinerII

    It just shows how stupid these people are. That they can make these statements without being able to connect the dots. Why do you think there is an escalation in this age group? Duh!!! Look around you. To the unemployed, the disenfranchised or the plain suicidal, the best deal in town looks like a pine box. You've got a government stuck on stupid, the GOP insist on making sure that nothing happens because they are in shock and awe that a black man has been elected to two terms in office. They want to make sure he can't get anything done. We need to get the economy moving,so what is the great plan? Make sure there are no job to let that happen. The jobs report came out and 165,000 jobs were added, it might be added by struggling to get there. Imagine what it could be like if the economy actually got support by going to work on the traditional routes, like infrastructure. There is a cancer festering in our political system. It has a stranglehold on the middleclass and it has been perpetuated by the upper 1% with our politicians help. They better get their act together because sooner or later it will turn on the upper 1% and then watch what happens to a society when a disenfranchised public reaches maximum velocity. Revolution!........ and where not too far from it. The Boston Marathon was just a dress rehearsal and that was only two kids that were p*ssed off over their islamic interest, not americans p*ssed off about american interest. If you get enough people maxed out on the same old same old, the country will end upside down, why? Because the politicians couldn't see that there short term gains brought about their long term demise!!! And that's major stupid!!!

    May 4, 2013 at 01:57 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Githm

      After reading these comments, I've decided which way to go.

      May 4, 2013 at 05:50 | Report abuse |
    • ronjayaz

      The higher ups of govt knew what was going to happen for a long time. The surprise is that the general electorate beleves that it was a sudden & unexpected event. How ironic that 2008 and 1946 were related. It was the earliest year that a "baby bomber" cud collect his/her SS-62 y/o! This was the "Hell no, we wont go" generation that so destroyed the old order & created the chaos of the new order that ment America wud never be the same again. It was the march on to the 60s. The rest is history, altho the stats arent in on the breakdown. Isnt it strange indeed that the civilian suicides have jumped like the military's. A unknown cancer has effected every part of American life. We must stop this Leader of the Western World psychosis that began with the "greatest generation" in 1945. America needs a super-psychiatrist.

      May 4, 2013 at 06:30 | Report abuse |
    • Dr Matrix

      Too bad we can't get the poiticians to start commiting suicide, it might be the only way to get them out of office.

      May 4, 2013 at 10:00 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      Leaviing aside for the moment your mass incitement to revolution and coup d'état, your idea about infrastructure would be paid for by tax money, requiring an increase in taxes. Do bob and Susan want to pay more in taxes so you can have your little make-work projects? I.e. strangers essentially giving you money. If you don't give strangers money, no reason the opposite should hold true. Actually even if you do give strangers money, there should be no expectation by you of reciprocity bc the basic premise of a gift is that it is an act of goodwill with no expectation of anything in return.

      May 5, 2013 at 08:04 | Report abuse |
    • Frankly A.

      Unfortunately our military (that our tax $$ pay for) takes an oath. To protect this country against all enemies-foreign & DOMESTIC. They have fully auto firearms, we can't even get bullets. How can we even attempt a revolution? I say we vote after seeing both sides of the equation.

      May 8, 2013 at 08:54 | Report abuse |
  5. Bo

    Welcome to Obama care death panels.

    May 4, 2013 at 02:02 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Jen T

      Your brain is on backwards

      May 4, 2013 at 03:07 | Report abuse |
    • Thinks2010

      @ JenT–Brain? What brain. I detect no evidence of a brain in Bo's comment.

      May 4, 2013 at 04:45 | Report abuse |
  6. JRGidaho

    Wow!! I guess I didn't realize the world was such a miserable place. I am 57, self-employed, quite healthy, enjoy just about every day of life, and don't worry about retirement. Never had a 401K so I guess I didn't lose anything there. Only made one stock investment in my life and it turned out so badly, I decided I would never gamble in that casino again. Most people are in the state of mind they are for one simple reason. They have never taken control of their life. If you expect someone else to look out for your well-being whether it is your employer, the government, your doctor, or god, your life is most likely going to be unfulfilling and you may be depressed and end up killing yourself. Take ownership and responsibility of every aspect of your life and you're far more likely to want to hang around.

    May 4, 2013 at 02:02 | Report abuse | Reply
    • George

      Well said. I do have a 401 k [thrift through govt job]. I keep most of the money in the bonds. Not that sexy , but I do not trust the stock market, so only a few percentage points are in there. Good thing is that with internet, one can easily switch things around.

      May 4, 2013 at 05:11 | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Well, aren't you special! Have a little compassion for rest the world,

      May 4, 2013 at 05:16 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      Exactly JR! I agree with every word. What you said really does apply to every single person in this world, bar none.

      May 5, 2013 at 08:06 | Report abuse |
  7. whitetourqoise

    Steal a mans house, job, savings and future? What do you leave him? Hope? What hope... that before he is totally marginalized by a youth oriented society that the industry leaders too big to fail will allow him to recover a lifetimes work?Keep smokin...it aint gonna happen. Wall Street Fokkers should die first. You suck!

    May 4, 2013 at 02:05 | Report abuse | Reply
  8. Fred

    One thing people aren't understanding that more people would've killed themselves in past generations if 1. it was as easy to do as it is now, and 2. if it was so widely understood and accepted as it is now. That's not a criticism of guns or society in any way, it's just an observation. More people are committing suicide merely because they can. I wish everyone would want to live. I also know the pain is too much to live with sometimes.

    May 4, 2013 at 02:09 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Thinks2010

      They might also have done so if they had lived to that age in the first place.

      May 4, 2013 at 03:02 | Report abuse |
  9. Fred

    One thing people aren't understanding is that more people would've killed themselves in past generations if 1. it was as easy to do as it is now, and 2. if it was so widely understood and accepted as it is now. That's not a criticism of guns or society in any way, it's just an observation. More people are committing suicide merely because they can. I wish everyone would want to live. I also know the pain is too much to live with sometimes.

    May 4, 2013 at 02:10 | Report abuse | Reply
  10. ricky rocky

    Here is a big apology. I wish I could delete my negative posts. Our thoughts create reality. There is magic in the universe. I just got way carried away here. (it's the stress and worry) Love to all.

    May 4, 2013 at 02:13 | Report abuse | Reply
    • simplyput

      We all get down from time to time. The apology should come from CNN for removing the positive comments and posting the negatives. Age discrimination is in every *virtual* place.

      May 4, 2013 at 02:21 | Report abuse |
    • sherman

      wow, you also have seen the power of our comments because millions (well thousands) read them and while for that second that they read them, they are in the minds of others. You are right. why can't we just change the system? I know we can't change the middle aged thing, but we can change society to the point that we can get a decent life for a human in 2013. anyway we can try for change on terms this time and if we loose, we have still won.

      May 4, 2013 at 09:17 | Report abuse |
    • sokesky

      Love you back.

      May 4, 2013 at 11:21 | Report abuse |
  11. Pippa

    I find those social or family ties overrated.
    A wo/man is an island. By this I don't mean that one shoukdn't be charitable to others. Just don't expect any rewards for your charity. Not even from God.
    Take a nice day, Wilson. Everything you said is true but in the end, it's just a Big Fail or Freedom for all those I know. The choice is ours.
    I take the easy way out: I kiss my a** goodbye, every day:-D

    May 4, 2013 at 02:14 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Chiku

      Pippa, for someone who lives perpetually in her sister's shadow, you are surprisingly wise. There is an old saying in Buddhism....."Life begins when you lose the fear of death".

      May 5, 2013 at 08:11 | Report abuse |
  12. atteckus

    It takes no rocket science or studies at all to fully understand why suicides have skyrocketed amongst 50-somethings. These are people who had good jobs before the Bush years, and lost them in the great recession. Following that loss, no one hires 50-somethings anymore. Their overqualified or make too much for the new economic paradigm. In other words, they deserve a living wage and nobody is willing to pay it anymore. If you have been emasculated and made to feel worthless, the thought of ending it all is quite a natural consequence. These are the wages of the overly capitalist system that encourages a race to the bottom for everything. We need the proper balanced mix of capitalism and socialism in order to thrive as a society. We have cut back too much on the socialist aspects of our governmental system, the parts that mandate living wages, retirement programs, healthcare plans, etc. Business and its owners are reaping too much of the rewards and the workers are reaping too little. Personal wealth is stagnant or negative for all but the top few percent. We cannot go on as a society living this way. We need to revert to what made us a great nation, back in the 50's and 60's.

    May 4, 2013 at 02:23 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Bucko

      As a 57 year old, who has been in the workforce since I was 22, I saw the changes come in the 1990's. The companies had an influx of bean counters with MBA's from various business schools, and suddenly, everything damn thing had to quantified and viewable on a spread sheet. Then, you started hearing all of the little phrases, which were smoke screens for LAY OFFS, re-engineering, down sizing, right sizing, new way for a new day, and my personal favorite, "re-calibration". I know a number of males in their late 50's and early 60's that can't find a decent job for love or money. The women are doing better, for some reason. Luckily, I got into a profession (claim's adjusting), where there is always a demand, because it is such a bit*h of a job, and it takes 10 years at least to get good. People in their 20's aren't going into my business. When us dinosaurs finally hit the bricks, good luck getting your claim handled. I don't know what these companies are going to do. You can't outsource claim's adjusting to India or China. You have to be licensed in the State where you are handling the claims. The industry literally ran out of qualified adjusters during Hurricane Sandy. They had to hire unqualified and inexperienced people, which is one reason there was so many problem, which continue.

      May 4, 2013 at 09:20 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      Atteckus, in his desire to return to the 1950s, sounds like bob dole in his 96 badly failed run for prez when he said "let me be a bridge to the past". No thanks, nobody wants to go back to an era without microwaves, small black and white televisions, no computers or smartphones, no cell phones, cars with no safety features like airbags and abs, decades before the eight track player, the cassette or cd, an era when couples who detested each other were afraid to divorce bc of the social stigma. An era prior to civil rights movement with segregation and blacks as second class citizens who had to sit in back of the bus, and on and on. Time never goes backward, only forward. The socialist aspects of the govt shouldn't have existed in a free market system. They are not compatible and it added a lot to this nations debt woes.

      May 5, 2013 at 08:17 | Report abuse |
  13. Larry

    This will be more and more common. The overwhelming, crushing, realization that you are entering "Old age" and still live paycheck to paycheck can make anyone irrational. I was 59 when I finally got a job that enabled me to breath a little easier. Up until then I was really worried abut "What am I going to do when I physically can't work?" The Republicans are cold and will blame you for "Not being rich". You know how to vote next time. How can we spend obscene amounts on our war machine and so litle on care for our citizens who need it the most (The poor, sick and old-on a budget)?

    May 4, 2013 at 02:23 | Report abuse | Reply
    • simplyput

      Yes, but think about the younger ones that will never even know the satisfaction of a full-time job and its benefits; that have only virtual lives, bad music, and superficial relationships; that have only scorn for parents an entire generation and God. They never really lived at all.

      May 4, 2013 at 03:36 | Report abuse |
    • Saundra J. Raynor

      I'm new to this blog. Why is it you make a simple comment and there is no option for a reader to reply to it except "Report Abuse"?

      June 8, 2013 at 20:44 | Report abuse |
  14. bix

    almost 53 y/o native-american,mother of 3 of the best kids ever, married 20 yrs, past 6-7 yrs dling with him living n garage due to his drug habit & crappy personality + refuses to leave. dealing with this n 2009 b/c pops up, b/c of drug hbt, $ & cars r gone, bus sys is a joke, terrible side effects, have truck that stopped, no $ 2 have chckout.babysit to pay essentials, will never own house,new car or go to paris.thought about suicide u bet, but love kids & dog 2 much not 2 try again, every #%*k*¢¿ a.m.

    May 4, 2013 at 02:24 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Thomas

      I wish you well in your English composition classes.

      May 4, 2013 at 12:48 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku


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  15. simplyput

    Is this what drinking and smoking dope does do people in old age: generate negatives? Take note, all you kids still sippin and tokin.

    May 4, 2013 at 02:26 | Report abuse | Reply
  16. scribb

    I'm 44 and don't know if I will live to 50. Really depressed and anxious, terrible regrets over mistakes. I have two kids (14 nd 12) so I am not seriously thinking of suicide now, but I think this growing pain in my soul will become too much. Only had a few odd jobs so I don't have a resume. No health insurance. I don't know what to do. I want to die. Why did I have kids?

    May 4, 2013 at 02:33 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Pippa

      @scribb : 4Oies are difficult years. You must check your hormonal balance, you are most likely pre-menopausal or already menopausal.
      Menopause, if untreated, creates catastrophic hormonal states such as irrational thinking, depression, suicidal thaughts. Please get a medical check-up to alleviate your moods, so you can be the mother your children need. You are a good mother already:-) please get help!
      Happy Mother's Day:-)

      May 4, 2013 at 03:46 | Report abuse |
    • sue

      Why did you have kids? That is your big regret in life? Those two kids will be adults in a couple of years and in the end they will end up taking care of your sorry ass. I feel sorry for your children having to deal with your depression and anger it must be difficult for them. I speak from experience from my depression and my children they were the only reasons I could find to live they were hope and faith. Get some medical help.

      May 4, 2013 at 08:27 | Report abuse |
    • sherman

      its a very hard time to have teen agers. sounds like you are doing the raising alone. yeah well I have thought of the idea every day since I was around 12. (I had a very very unusual father) they will grow up and it could be that hormones are messing with you right now, and its absolute they are messing with the kids! Join (I know..humans..however for may people this does help) join a group. find like minded people and you will find out that having kids the age you have, taxes the parents regardless of status or income.

      May 4, 2013 at 09:01 | Report abuse |
    • Larry Bennett

      Try GOD, he has brought me through a war, racism, financial disaster and death. I am 65 years old and I am happy when I pray every day. Reach out to your Heavenly Father. He will not fail you, if you can believe.

      May 4, 2013 at 10:35 | Report abuse |
    • Thomas

      Sue, these days there should be no expectation that our kids will take care of us. They will have a hard enough time taking care of themselves.

      May 4, 2013 at 12:50 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      That is sad that your kids are so young and still in your custody and you care nothing for them. This is why people should be licensed to be parents, to keep the uncaring ones like you out. No point asking why, you decided to have them and you have a moral obligation to take care of them till age eighteen. After that. Do whatever the heck you want.

      May 5, 2013 at 08:23 | Report abuse |
  17. walter

    Ah yes, the sanctimonious libs blaming Republicans again. At what point will these morons admit that their buddy Obo The Clown has been in charge for 4+ years. Republicans are not, as the laughable libs often vomit out, going away. Maybe the next Democratic president (god forbid) might be able to work with those who don't agree with him/her rather crying like a little baby, "they won't bend over and kiss my feet, and give me whatever I want!! Whaa, whaa, whaa!!!"

    May 4, 2013 at 02:36 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Thinks2010

      Digging this nation out of a hole as deep as the one Bush/Cheney dropped us into takes time, especially with the Republicans and TeaPartisans doing their best to hinder our progress.

      May 4, 2013 at 03:08 | Report abuse |
    • cincinnatidavid

      Walt no doubt hates that Lib, Jefferson.

      May 4, 2013 at 05:19 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      Yes they and your ilk are going away, disappearing from political power. Repub party is just one of wealthy white elitists and racists and that has no place in the new, multicolored tapestry that is America and led by people of all colors and genders.

      May 5, 2013 at 08:25 | Report abuse |
  18. GO_GOP

    That's Obamacare for you folks. This is very clear. These people (>50 yrs age) are moving into a phase of their lives where medical care will be required. However, because of Obamacare medical costs are projected to go up by around 80% (most conservative estimates). This is going to be almost impossible for these folks to afford and hence the decision to end their lives. Sad what this dictator has turned our country to.

    May 4, 2013 at 02:36 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Bub

      Actually, we're currently reaping the rewards of policies laid by Ronald Reagan, furthered by the Bushs and husbanded all along by GOPers in Congress from Newt up through McConnell and Boehner.

      This is the perfect GOP robber baron "Gilded Age" economy. An "it was the best of times, it was the worst of times" economy.

      May 4, 2013 at 03:04 | Report abuse |
    • annieR

      You are ridiculous.

      May 4, 2013 at 03:07 | Report abuse |
    • simplyput

      Don't neglect NAFTA and the millions of call centers that closed down under Clinton. No one party is responsible for this mess. Obama may have changed a few diapers in his time, but he sure can't change this mess. Both parties contributed, and the system is foul with money-changers from the House to the Senate to the lobbyists joining the folks at the White House. It's all about money, and those of us who have paid into the system will now get screwed. If you think some of us are just going to fade away, you're as wrong as a suicide.

      May 4, 2013 at 03:56 | Report abuse |
    • sherman

      yupper, with a paid for house, no insurance, were I to seek medical attention I would loose the inheritance my grandchildren deserve... 1099, no way to pay taxes on that next year... knowing who the fed is now... watching us bully and kill all around the world. fiat money ponzy scheme... yes – however what if... after all "what have we got to loose..." – I mean really.

      May 4, 2013 at 08:53 | Report abuse |
  19. Bub

    The current economy demands we work until we die. The current economy makes employment past 50 diffiicult for most. Your savings can only be invested in Wall Street thanks to the Feds ZIRP and that "investment" can move into someone elses brokerage account with a mysterious flash crash from out of the blue. Suicide is probably not so much a choice for many but a decision more and more middle aged people are pushed into. I'm surprised the numbers aren't higher.

    "Help" from others is often not help at all. Generally, the comments might be along the lines of "just jump and get it over with, this whole miserable economy was all your fault" or "look how well I'm doing by taking personal responsibility for myself, your problems are your own fault and I hope to pickup some things cheap at your estate sale". Both sorts of comments are strangely typical and you even see them here. I actually had a retired relative tell me that "layoffs are only how corporations get rid of their slackers and deadwood" pointing out how well her children were doing in this sour economy. They work in a heavily government subsidized industry while my employer's plant was closed permanently. That made me feel "real" good and only left me hoping she got more out of the comment than I did.

    Suicide can make sense. It might be the only way out.

    May 4, 2013 at 02:49 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Saundra J. Raynor

      Your rebuttal had merit. Wish I could discuss this with you more. Maybe later.

      June 8, 2013 at 20:36 | Report abuse |
  20. Kona

    Suicide has always been my solution for the golden years. Even though I will have a 401k, that will probably sustain me for about 5 years. That won't be enough. We tend to live to the mid-80's and I will run dry by the time I'm 75. So, that is my target. No need to burden the family. Better to have an end-of-life party than just have people show up after your final breath.

    May 4, 2013 at 03:10 | Report abuse | Reply
    • observer

      I agree. But it is easy to say. When the time comes I may be too scared or too weak to take the action.

      May 4, 2013 at 05:14 | Report abuse |
    • sue

      So, you think that you will be a worthless human being after a certain age and have already planned your demise because you are old?? You are saying the old are worthless and don't contribute to society and that is wrong and disturbing. When you get to your target date you won't do it.

      May 4, 2013 at 08:32 | Report abuse |
    • sherman

      I have 10 more years – I told the kids, 10 good years – so nobody better think of living here with me. I do not believe that the torture we endure called medicine is the answer. I am not buying any health insurance that doesn't come with a safety.

      May 4, 2013 at 08:47 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      Nobody should ever claim or pretend to be brave enough for suicide. You really cheapen the incredible pain of those who killed themselves instead of just talking big talk about suicide on the Internet. Big difference. I agree with the others, you will chicken out on your silly target date. This is just attention seeking by you, there is a huge gulf between people who commit suicide and those who just talk about it.

      May 5, 2013 at 08:32 | Report abuse |
    • Saundra J. Raynor

      I like your last sentence. But believe me, when you are 75, you will not want to end your life. Life is always difficult; it's a matter of finding ways to cope.

      June 8, 2013 at 20:39 | Report abuse |
  21. JP

    We 50ers are either working the equivalent of two or three jobs because of employers who wont hire and slave drive you in the new "norm" of 14 hours a day, or we are unemployed and not being hired because of age or being over qualified and more expensive than the kid fresh outta college.. We haven't saved enough yet. We are stressed more on a daily basis than previous generations in my opinion, pushed over the edge of productivity in a 24 hour period.
    Just know that you are not alone and please hang in there. I don't know you but please believe that I understand and care. Get help if you need it and hang around awhile longer....things change.

    May 4, 2013 at 03:21 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Have the TShirt

      Well said. And to repeat the cliche: suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

      May 4, 2013 at 09:57 | Report abuse |
    • Thomas

      Or suicide is a solution to an enduring problem.

      Depends on the person and the problem.

      Life is not a fiction story that always has a happy ending.

      May 4, 2013 at 12:54 | Report abuse |
  22. whatsthepoint?

    I'm in my late 20s and suicide is looking better and better everyday

    May 4, 2013 at 03:22 | Report abuse | Reply
    • sherman

      Hold it, you are young enough to change the game kiddo. late 20's? people have taken over entire countries at your age..and well, you know we can't have your aged people feeling hopeless too. I have a 1958 National Geographic where every ad is for travel and cameras. now you can't fly interstate without being groped – they want – they want and we preform. as we wait for some signal that says its okay to burst forth with a great change of status quo. before they burst forth with a flu – the way forward is going to be very hard but we need all like minded people, so do not go off the deep end quite so fast.

      May 4, 2013 at 08:42 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      What game. Some people are never allowed in the game. Maybe he is a complete social outcast with no friends or family. Maybe for reasons that can't be changed. Suicide isn't restricted to fifties. Sometimes, life sucks continuously from age 12 to the day you finally get sick of it and eat lead.

      May 4, 2013 at 17:19 | Report abuse |
  23. Pondering in the back of my head

    Things are messed up all across my universe-you name it. I don't think I'll be killing myself soon. I don't want to have my
    young niece and nephews think some depressed kind of gene lurks in their DNA. I want to leave them that. I am curious how
    my movie will end. I can see the credits rolling: all the freekin' great people that helped give me a wonderful life ( when it
    was wonderful). Even then, I didn't appreciate it much. I was just trying to be this phoney baloney keeping up with the other
    plastic BMW robots and impress the "wanna boob job" women. Hahahaha- the jokes on me. Jeez, I sound nuts.

    May 4, 2013 at 03:24 | Report abuse | Reply
  24. Jalen

    Having been the caregiver for a parent with Alzheimer's, I can honestly say I would not hesitate to end it if I ever showed early signs of that disease... which does seem to be hitting people younger and younger these days. Early to mid 50's is not uncommon for the early signs to appear. I would not be surprised if at-least a few were because of this.

    May 4, 2013 at 03:27 | Report abuse | Reply
  25. Shannon

    Reading these comments makes me want to kill myself.

    May 4, 2013 at 03:44 | Report abuse | Reply
  26. Pippa

    CNN: thank you for posting my reply @scribbs:-) you made my day!

    May 4, 2013 at 03:57 | Report abuse | Reply
  27. Hopefully

    Hopefully its the racist baby boomer gen offing themselves.

    May 4, 2013 at 04:25 | Report abuse | Reply
  28. Been There

    It's hard in your 50's to find work. I went through that years ago. But I made it to 60 and beyond. The bottom line I had to face is that we now live in the 21st century and I still had one foot in the 20th century (mind and skills). Times change and so do cultures and societies around the world. Nothing ever stays the same, and life has no guarantees. While politics have somewhat to do with our current financial problems, we are an ever evolving species and technology plays more into today's economic concerns then we care to accept. I hope anyone thinking of ending their life will get help someway, somehow. Yes, youth and living life in your 30's and 40's may seem the peek of your existence, but aging is about the clarity of the life you have lived. Find your personal happiness in friends, family, and seeing the sunrise one more day. Death comes too soon for us human beings, try not to rush to the finish line.

    May 4, 2013 at 04:46 | Report abuse | Reply
  29. cincinnatidavid

    The number of 50-somethings has significantly increased during this time period. Therefore, their suicide rate hasn't doubled, but has increased by a little less than 50%.

    May 4, 2013 at 05:28 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Nancy

      THIS could be the smartest post of all here... the pure mathematics and percentages not mentioned by anyone else. Still, I have been struggling with suicial thoughts for many months. I am female, 56, working fulltime as a nurse and living paycheck to paycheck. I am terrified as my aging body struggles to keep up with higher nurse/patient ratios, trying to do all that is expected of me on the job these days. I will have to do this until I am 70. So you may be right that we are mislead by these numbers- but I have no history of depression, no hormone imbalance, no abusive relationships... an a lot of debt. I have nothing to look forward to.

      May 4, 2013 at 07:52 | Report abuse |
    • sherman

      me too. I thought by now...and of course I tell people all the time there is no male in my life by choice but although my standards are incredibly difficult – I know happiness is only that endorphin away... I cheat and dream quite a bit but... its a depressing paycheck to almost paycheck existence. I have two dogs, but they are not humans. and the cat is a french terrorist. I used to love movies and now I see the propaganda inside all of them. its all an illusion and the god that I never believed in gets prayed too many times a day now, but not for me, for others. We are the last generation that was actually taught history. we believe in paul revere and john adams, and not in lone nuts. some psycho group stole our country, and then our money, and then even our pride... pointing out what we actually allowed to happen. As an even older pal of 40 years told me.."El, if I were a young man now, I would be in prison for the rest of my life." – why are we sad? someone turned us into slaves for paper while they used our good name to kill wholesale in other countries and then lied to us about that. why are we sad? you force us to purchase this and that and the other thing (insurances and taxes and fees and licenses) education becomes – how good can you follow instructions and not how much can you discover for yourself. and then, there is the sense that maybe its very true that its not what we do in life that we regret – its what we don't do. thanks. but I live every day with these thoughts. 58 Female

      May 4, 2013 at 08:26 | Report abuse |
  30. Majav

    Consider that humans are chemical beings rather than spiritual beings.
    It's a consideration to help one see things differently,
    I wouldn't even say it's the truth.

    With the right chemistry one can feel a deeper connection to life. Some people call it God, but it doesn't have to be that complicated. The right chemistry is a joyful experience.

    If one's chemistry is askew, it is an upsetting experience. Some may feel it is the devil. It doesn't have to be that complicated.

    Feeling terrible, lost, helpless, anxious, whatever may have a chemical solution. The advances in medicine is worth exploring. You are worth it. You will get through this, You will feel joy again.

    It may be lack of exercise, a food allergy, who knows?
    It is up to you to find out.
    You have to be your own best advocate.
    You have to manage your chemistry, you have to manage your joy,
    every day. No one else can do it for you.


    People are so busy managing their own chemistry.
    Some better than others.
    It is just something that is very unique and individual.
    No two people have the same solution for joy at any given time, on any given day.

    Sometimes the best thing is to find some solitude, nature is AMAZING,
    other times its best to be around a friend, family member, a cat, dog, whatever.

    Put your team together. Friends, family, health care providers, whoever.
    Don't give up.
    If humans are anything,
    Humans care.
    Sometimes the best smiles come from strangers.
    You never know.
    Life is beautiful.
    Life is a smile.
    Take care until your smile again.

    May 4, 2013 at 05:59 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Tom Wilson

      The best post I've seen yet. Great enthusiasm and intelligence well spoken.
      Humans are not born to be suicidal, it comes with mistakes made throughout your life and not learning from them.
      Relationships are thing of the past for many, and that's a tragedy. A dog is worth 10 human lives, easy. Raise them right and their love and loyalty is forever. Take this advice and stop being *ussies.

      May 4, 2013 at 07:08 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      Some people think dogs are ugly and repulsive. It is rather arrogant of you to think bc a dog helped you that is the path for all. Maybe there are people who've never had a romantic relationship and no number of pets will matter especially if you dislike animals. "Take this advice and stop being -ussies". Just shut up. Your advice is worthless and I would not want to be around a gross dog for one second, never mind for life.

      May 4, 2013 at 23:33 | Report abuse |
  31. Jason Wolfe

    Maybe they realized that they spent their lives being a slave to another for a piece of paper.

    May 4, 2013 at 06:32 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Chiku

      It is not slavery as no employer forces you to work for them. Secondly, that paper gives you food and housing and enables you to live.

      May 4, 2013 at 17:25 | Report abuse |
  32. Maria

    Men pay child support and when finally over they find themselves old and broke without having enjoyed traveling and playing.

    Really these statistics can be broken down into financial patterns, education, living situation etc.

    This article is worthless without the demographics. They have them so why not print them? The article was too broad. Poor management at CNN. Why print half a story?

    May 4, 2013 at 07:22 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Chiku

      Yeah cuz it is just so easy to take the demographic stats and breezily tie them in education, living situations and correlate it suicides, ya know just kind of explain life's mysteries clearly and concisely in an article. They already bring the news to you for free, if tying the demographic stats not all this is so easy, why don't post about it. You can easily get the stats off the Internet. Please get this down in the next couple of hrs since it is so easy. And do it for us for free since CNN does it for you for free and with nothing but snarky comments and disparagement since the beginning of time.

      May 4, 2013 at 18:13 | Report abuse |
  33. godofredo

    Okay, boys and girls. Here's your lesson for today. The VAST majority of suicides are guys. It's a men's health issue. Men are raised in most cultures to accept their suicide as a valid life choice (proof in the U.S. is the existence of the Selective Service registration). Suicide's cause boils down to one reason: the individual no longer sees a place for themselves in the world. And, it is all about the individual not the functions they imply in society (parent, child, spouse, employee, etc.). So, you cannot shame a person into not commiting suicide. Once they have no reason to live as an individual, one can't expect them to be thinking about others. It's all about having a reason themselves for living. To even have a chance of changing the outcome, they have to be dealt with as a person, an individual, and those intervening have to be able to offer them or give them what they don't have in order to have a chance to make a difference. If that is not realistically possible then one has to recongnize that the individual may end their lives. Face it, in the U.S., we don't intervene when it comes to men's health issues. We tell them it's their responsiblity, and their fault ("If you had eaten right, you wouldn't have gotten that prostate cancer").

    May 4, 2013 at 07:57 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Chiku

      This is correct. Men commit suicide four times as much as women, but women attempt suicide four times as often. Which is stupid bc it is not so hard to shoot yourself in the head. Women's attempts usually consist of swallowing a few Tylenol and having their stomach pumped at a hospital and then seeking attention for their suicide attempt for years. I actually had a cousin do this after threatening suicide for years. It is a window into the nature of women. I hate when people speak of suicide attempt bc anyone serious about it will just put a gun to their head and pull the trigger. But i also read women can't stand the thought of disfiguring themselves like this.

      May 4, 2013 at 18:18 | Report abuse |
  34. sherman

    Maybe its finding out that its all rigged. Maybe its having seen parents age and die. Maybe it is the being discriminated against by society and definitely by employers. Maybe its the war for profit merry go round. Maybe its the final search for adventure. Maybe its a health diagnosis. Maybe its the inability to loose so many freedoms so quickly. Maybe its because their kids believe the world will end soon and just want to party. Maybe the loss of a great dog or two. – Maybe its that your president is always a crook. do the math.

    May 4, 2013 at 08:07 | Report abuse | Reply
  35. RandyF

    The numbers are nearly the same as during the Great Depression. The high cost of unemployment and a government policy
    On going unemployment to keep labor cheap for the super rich.

    May 4, 2013 at 08:20 | Report abuse | Reply
  36. Frank

    Is it any wonder. Add to the fact that getting older means you find what you did with ease last year is harder this year. The stress of a heart attack, stroke, diabetes, cancer, any number of serious illnesses from which you don't "bounce back." Constantly reading negatives or govrenment cuts about the health care you have become dependent on, loss of half or more of your 401k that was your nestegg for the future, living on a fixed income with ever increasing costs of living when any chance of increasing your income is lost, no transportation or higher transportation costs of getting to doctors which seems never ending because you're having to see several specialists and undergoing endless testing waiting days on end in suspense to get results, getting prescriptions renewed on time, higher utility costs, grocery costs, home maintenance costs, having to think about selling your home out from under the family, city, state and federal taxes with more taxes and fees and cuts that take away tax credit benefits, threats of utility shutoffs, bills, bills, and more bills, and on and on with anxiety or depression over a mini or maxi crisis every day. I've seen it first hand helping my elderly neighbors fill out local, state and government forms for foodstamps and utilities help that ask for all but your DNA, the pain in their face having to do it, the excoriation of them for having to do it with some saying let them die, giving rides to doctors and hospitals, banks, drug and gocery stores and just having a second cup of coffee with a friend in need of a little company. These are the "golden years" for far to many when age gets them. So, why is it any surprise many would just bag it.

    May 4, 2013 at 08:24 | Report abuse | Reply

    I find it amazing that the psychological end and the physiological end of the medical profession don't even seem to communicate.

    It's obvious why. Go to the doctor at the age of 50 and have a health complaint and see how quickly it is just shrugged off as something normal in the aging process. February 2012, I went into the doctors office because my lower back hurt so bad I could hardly stand it. Some x-rays were done and the doctor said that I just had mild arthritis. I was put on pain meds like Tramadol that drove my anxiety levels out the roof, but the pain doctor didn't care. I was sent to physical therapy where I was expected to remember a series of exercises after one go through. I knew the pain was more than that. I had to push hard to find someplace to look into the problem. I finally wound up at a university hospital and found out it was spinal stenosis. I'd been working hard on getting my core muscle stronger because after I'd injured myself I slowly became more sedentary until i went to the doctor. Then my knee started causing me problems. This knee has already had meniscus surgery and I went back to the same primary care doctor who sent me to that clinics knee doctor who told me that I just had arthritis. I can barely walk a block without the pain manifesting into madness. Thankfully I have an appointment with the university hospital again, because, there have been times I truly have wanted it all just to stop.

    The doctors do NOT listen. The doctor who DID listen to me was a young female doctor from India at the University of Kansas Medical Center.

    These same doctors mentioned before look at me and say but you are so young.........yet they treat me like I am so old.

    I've read a lot of good information here and I plan to come back and read more of what you all have to say. There's a lot to be said for loneliness, stress, and many other things mentioned.

    May 4, 2013 at 08:46 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Chiku

      Let me guess.......you are morbidly obese. People who have discipline and healthy lifestyles, restrained and healthy diets live into their seventies with no problems. Maybe the fifty something's with problems should look at diet, lifestyle etc

      May 4, 2013 at 19:10 | Report abuse |
    • letsgomets2013 and beyond!

      Rockwood: You are 100% correct about the medical profession!!

      Obgyns only are interested in the young and fecund client. Once you hit perimenopause, you're small time game to them. Nothin' doin' and they don't want to invest their time in you.

      I had a doc who told me I was dehydrated and to go home. I went to him because my heart rate was well over 100 and was not slowing down. Turns out I was not dehydrated; I had another chronic health issue that I wound up in the hospital for.

      He misdiagnosed the entire thing. What an idiot.

      June 7, 2013 at 11:06 | Report abuse |
    • letsgomets2013 and beyond!

      Rockwood: You are 100% correct about the medical profession!! Right on!

      Obgyns only are interested in the young and fecund client. Once you hit perimenopause, you're small time game to them. Nothin' doin' and they don't want to invest their time in you.

      I had a doc who told me I was dehydrated and to go home. I went to him because my heart rate was well over 100 and was not slowing down. Turns out I was not dehydrated; I had another chronic health issue that I wound up in the hospital for.

      He misdiagnosed the entire thing. What an idiot.

      June 7, 2013 at 11:15 | Report abuse |
  38. answer is cold

    its hard being a who in whoville.

    May 4, 2013 at 08:47 | Report abuse | Reply
  39. MrBill

    Since I'm male in my 50's, have commited suicide twice in my lifetime (1987 and 2009), and am currently considering exiting stage left, perhaps I can shed some light. It's pain, kids. Relief from pain.

    The depressed person who tries to kill himself doesn’t do so out of hopelessness or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill himself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view. The fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire’s flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It’s not desiring the fall; it’s terror of the flames.

    And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling "Don’t jump!" and "Hang on!", can understand the jump. Not really.

    You’d have to have personally been trapped and felt the flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling.

    May 4, 2013 at 08:52 | Report abuse | Reply
    • sherman

      well its so good to know that its going to be okay then. none of those feelings apply to me. never have. I just am depressed that our country was stolen and that we still have yet to do anything about it. – 2029 – coming so fast. – have to wait for that.

      May 4, 2013 at 09:04 | Report abuse |
    • MrBill

      The mental health industry is completely regulated by the insurance companies. I've been in the best mental hospital in the world and I've been in a couple of the worst. In both, patients who are insured spend most of their time arguing with the insurance company about their treatment. Patients who aren't insured are kicked to the curb ASAP.

      Currently, the standard practice is to stabalize the patient as quickly as possible and get them out the door. The average stay post-crisis is 4 or 5 days. Then, maybe a week or two of outpatient, which is a couple hours of handholding on weekdays. And then, in what seems like minutes, you are left to your own devices.

      My life is in the hands of a murderer, just waiting for the pain to escalate enough so I can step out on the ledge again and leap away from the flames.

      May 4, 2013 at 09:21 | Report abuse |
    • Thomas

      Good post. Many still don't understand the mindset of suicide. It is the choice of lessor pain, and that pain can be physical, emotional, or even something else.

      Until one has been there, it is difficult to understand.

      May 4, 2013 at 13:00 | Report abuse |
  40. brescio1

    It’s a shame that when someone tries and fails a suicide attempt, people say they are just doing it for the attention and blow them off. Yet if the person is successful with their suicide attempt, people say how sad they should have tried to get someone’s attention for help. A person almost has to be successful at suicide in order to prove to friends and family that there was a problem.

    May 4, 2013 at 09:03 | Report abuse | Reply
    • MrBill

      Killing oneself is a misnomer. I did not kill myself. I was simply defeated by the long, hard struggle to stay alive. When somebody dies after a long illness, people are apt to say, with a note of approval, "He fought so hard." But, when it comes to suicide, they are inclined to think that no fight was involved, that somebody simply gave up.

      This is quite wrong.

      May 4, 2013 at 09:25 | Report abuse |
    • Chiku

      Yes, and that is because there is nothing hard about shooting yourself in the head. Most of the attempts are just attention seeking. If you serious bout it, tell me what is so hard about putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger. It is the easiest thing of great consequence you will ever do. No other major life decision is one percent as easy.

      May 4, 2013 at 18:23 | Report abuse |
  41. Great_FN_Planet

    What a Great FN Planet, eh?

    May 4, 2013 at 09:05 | Report abuse | Reply
  42. t

    .............hey,........feeling sad you only have a Glock and an AR-15.................sad your best 4 dogs died last week in the still explosion.................feeling down Obama has over 3 MORE YEARS as POTUS.............sad that Sara Palin was fired by FOX................take you life to a NEW EXISTENCE.................follow your instincts and read NRA material all day for 6 days, then do what comes naturally...........

    May 4, 2013 at 09:21 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Chiku

      Racists like you who slobber over the idiot palin and the murderous NRA are a waste of space. Do what you want, nobody cares. We are better off without the likes of you and your far too numerous brethren.

      May 4, 2013 at 18:26 | Report abuse |
  43. jrvinnh

    I'm 58 and am struggling with many of the issues mentioned in the article. But in addition, I'm distressed by the prospect of having to become dependent on others. I've always been able to work and support myself and so I don't like the idea of having to live off of the government or charity. The younger generations have their own lives to lead and so why should they have to carry me around? My plan is to keep going on my own as long as I can and then just let it end one way or another.

    May 4, 2013 at 09:22 | Report abuse | Reply
  44. Tim

    Too old to get hired, too young for Social Security and Medicare. But Wall Street is at a record high...

    May 4, 2013 at 09:31 | Report abuse | Reply
  45. Obooba

    George W Bush, congratulations on entering your 13th year as President of the United States. According to some people, you're still the President and are to blame for everything.

    May 4, 2013 at 09:33 | Report abuse | Reply
  46. Garrett

    The only suicidal thoughts I have are exactly because of how the economy and the overall direction the world seems to go. I don't see a pleasant future either. Struggling every month to pay off bills/debt for my whole life and experiencing very few luxury just sounds meaningless.

    May 4, 2013 at 09:39 | Report abuse | Reply
  47. Rev.Christie Bliss Ley

    Another issue that could cause a person to commit suicide is being in an abusive relationship. Abuse of women is high in some secluded communities.

    May 4, 2013 at 09:49 | Report abuse | Reply
  48. Hawke

    When I think suicidal thoughts it's because I'm 66 & realized when I was 40 that "this" is all there is. I never had much energy even when I was 100 pounds lighter & 50 years younger. Every morning is a struggle with IBS, a headache, aching joints (yes even when I was 16). Everyday now is a struggle not to overeat, which is my "comfort." I don't smoke or drink. I don't think anyone I know would suspect I am suicidal since I don't fit the profile but the thoughts are there. I take an antidepressant. I am involved in a great charity and I go to church–all when I have the energy to participate. I finally retired in 2010 from my job as a paralegal because I simply couldn't mentally & physically get through the day. Yes, I have a family doctor I see every 3 months for my diabetes which was diagnosed in 2010. So for some people suicide is a way out. For me, I don't want to hurt my family & I take comfort in the fact that today I'm closer to it being over than I was yesterday.

    May 4, 2013 at 09:56 | Report abuse | Reply
  49. DB

    Remember SS was suppose to supplement our retirement. A program into which we have contributed our earned money into as a TAX for the last 50 years, was robbed by a Democratic Congress under LBJ and the funds never returned. Congress left IOU's which make diddlysquat in interest. SS would have been solvent for all if not for or greedy Congressional Members who stuff their pockets every day.

    May 4, 2013 at 10:05 | Report abuse | Reply
  50. John

    The people on wall street that committed the mortgage fraud that took an average of 40% of everyone's 401k and everyone's home equity are responsible for these deaths. They will never be prosecuted because they have too much money. Our system is corrupt, dishonest, and a setup for the ultra-rich. Plus, they will keep doing this over and over just like the past.

    May 4, 2013 at 10:12 | Report abuse | Reply
    • timelord7202

      So all the peoples' comments just means the problems are getting worse. It's unfortunate.

      June 7, 2013 at 12:41 | Report abuse |
    • greg shaw

      What you say is unhappily probably true.

      June 7, 2013 at 13:08 | Report abuse |
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