![]() |
|
![]() The microscopic Aeromonas hydrophila is found in freshwater or brackish water environments, according to the FDA.
May 14th, 2012
10:06 AM ET
Say what? 'Flesh-eating bacteria' explainedIt sounds like something out of a horror film - a micro-organism that enters through an open wound and begins to consume your body from the inside out. Unfortunately flesh-eating bacteria, or necrotizing fasciitis, isn't fiction. Aimee Copeland, a 24-year-old graduate student from Georgia, is fighting for her life in an Augusta hospital after contracting one type known as aeromonas hydrophila during a zip line adventure. Aeromonas hydrophila is found in most, if not all, freshwater or brackish water environments (water that contains salt but is not saltwater), according to the Food and Drug Administration's "Bad Bug Book." Aeromonas hydrophila can also enter the body through an open wound, as happened in the Copeland case. When that occurs the flesh-eating bacteria quickly reproduces, giving off toxins that destroy skin and soft tissue. Such bacteria is adept at hiding from the body's immune system, according to the National Necrotizing Fasciitis Foundation. If necrotizing fasciitis is detected early, only skin or fat may need to be removed. But if the infection is detected later, amputation may be necessary to stop the spread of the bacteria. Dr. William Schaffner, president of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases, says when Aeromonas hydrophila enters through an open wound, early diagnosis is difficult. The bacteria does its damage deep in the tissue and doesn't manifest itself on the skin's surface. Patients should pay attention to any pain coming from a closed wound, as well as redness or drainage, he told CNN. The frequency of Aeromonas hydrophilia infections is unknown, the FDA notes, because researchers only recently began trying to collect numbers. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that each year there are about 10,000 U.S. cases of group A streptococcus, a collection of bacteria that includes necrotizing fasciitis. Approximately 20% of the cases of necrotizing fasciitis are fatal, according to the CDC. |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() About this blog
Get a behind-the-scenes look at the latest stories from CNN Chief Medical Correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Senior Medical Correspondent Elizabeth Cohen and the CNN Medical Unit producers. They'll share news and views on health and medical trends - info that will help you take better care of yourself and the people you love. |
|
This article is irresponsible. If you want to know more about this disease, read up on it yourself, don't take this article as a resource. For one, saying there are 10,000 cases of A strepp group exposure a year, of which necrotizing fascitis is included is like saying there are 300 billion people in the world, of which Charlie Manson is included.
On top of that, the statement is inherently false. It's not a part of A strepp. Plus, just cause this bug gets into you, doesn't mean it's going to accomplish anything. Odds are, many of us have been exposed previously. The defining factor here is your immune system. If you have issues with that, then an exposure "might" (might with bells and whistles on it that is) cause problems.
Don't cancel your vacation plans. I, on the other hand, am out of toilet paper, so I'm going to print this article out and have a quiet moment.
Watch for papercuts bro.
Yes, I'm sure you're "a scientist". Uh-huh. Try brushing up on your reading comprehension skills.
A scientist? right. Don't worry about it, these folks are not fifth graders.
Thank you for a better informed article, unfortunately CNN is the worse at reporting anything factual or substantial. Is this a place were C students report to learn how to report the news?
Hey, I'm really impressed. Are you a rocket scientist type? Do you even drive a Lexus? Wow, I'm impressed!!!
Actually, A Scientist is right on many points and the CNN article is a little sketchy. BTW, I'm a microbiologist, just in case you want to question my intelligence as well.
Your an ASS.
That's right, as so many of CNN articles, this one is written by an intern without any knowledge of the subject, and is not fact-checked by an expert. This quote does not make any sense: "each year there are about 10,000 U.S. cases of group A streptococcus, a collection of bacteria that includes necrotizing fasciitis". Streptococcus is a bacterium, necrotizing fasciitis is a disease. Strep causes a variety of diseases, and only rarely necrotizing fasciitis. The latter can be caused by other bacteria as well. And Aeromonas hydrophila implicated in this case is not even a close relative of Streptococcus.
Well all it really asks you to do is make sure to watch for symptoms if you get an open wound. That's not unreasonable advice.
Trying to word things to make you panic is just the way all news is done regardless of content.
I hope th
Based on your tenses, it would appear you wiped your ass with your own comment.
a scientist who believes there are 300 Billion people in this world.
300 billion.
Plus, what you say, they say in the article. Re-read.
There is no real science in this article. The author refers to necrotizinng fasciitis as a member of group A Streptococci. Necrotizing fasciitis is a SYNDROME (not an organism) caused by infections with certain Streptococci, such as Streptococcus pyogenes. The author of the article also makes NO attempt to dispel the absurd idea that the bacteria literally eats one's flesh. The destruction of the flesh is actually caused by bacterial exotoxins. These toxins can also trigger a systemic immune response, leading to toxic shock syndrome (TSS). While the destruction of the fascia tissue is disfiguring, it is TSS that is the real killer in these cases. The media is a huge reason why scientific ignorance is so rampant in this country. Why don't you hire someone who at least knows a LITTLE bit about what they are writing about CNN?
Oh good grief! Everybody take a deep breath....
This article is about A Flesh eating bacteria, Not a flash in the pan Palin, I promise you if you ignore her she will go away. I get very frightened when I hear her name! To think that people in this country actually considered making her a VP. Are we that low in mentality?
Yes Ron, yes we are. Have you read comments on sites like this one and Youtube? People are DUMB.
I consider threadjackers to be among the most stupid; they can't even stay on topic. So unless you were responding to someone else - which I could not find - look in a mirror before you start complaining about the stupidity of others.
When a good-looking young chick like that falls victim to such a horrible fate as this, at least it has the benefit of getting the condition talked about and covered in the media.
If it had been some ugly old stroker, it wouldn't have made the news with near as much of a splash.
I wonder if flooding the wound immediately after the injury occurred with bottled water and/or lots of rubbing alcohol would've helped at all – or possibly prevented the infection altogether. One would tend to think that it would be of benefit.
We know that rubbing alcohol does of course kill germs, but I wonder how much good it might've done in this case against this bacterium if used quickly.
Education is the key. Just a simple thing for instance in my case like learning that flooding my hand with rubbing alcohol immediately after it was exposed to poison ivy (I'm extremely sensitive), saved me from the usual ten days of misery. Worked like a charm – but must be done within about five minutes, and the exposed area must not be rubbed – just flooded.
So now when I'm working near poison ivy (pruning, picking blackberries, for example), I make sure there's rubbing alcohol nearby.
And I've *always* flooded any type of wound with alcohol after flooding it with clean tap water. (But I've never suffered a wound while swimming in a lake or river.)
I just keep my body flooded with Alcohol and so far i've been good 🙂
What a complete m o r o n.
I am sure Windex works just as well right? You need a placebo controlled trial to really prove your anecdote. I would not "flood" a wound with alcohol – may lead to more tissue damage and increase the chance for a necrotizing infection.
I wondered if the original wound was flushed properly. It's extremely painful (the flushing with maybe saline) but better than this. These people are wealthy though, and will sue everyone in sight. I would if they just stapled up the original wound.
If you're a cow, then humans are like flesh-eating bacteria.
Not really, because humans don't gnaw on cow parts while the cow is still alive.
I eat raw cows like most people eat apples. But I don't even peel my cows first. Just a couple of bottles of heinz ketchup and it's the best eating in the world. Also, it would be a "miracle" if thousands of children hadn't have died of hunger throughout the world. They didn't get their miracles, huh?
This is so scary! makes me think twice lol, I get hurt all the time, haven't been to a doctor in several years, I sliced my arm open pretty good on a wrecked car fender a few months ago, just wrapped duck tape and went on my way while people were freaking out. I got a hook through my hand the other day trying to unhook a 18in eel. Usually I just let blood run for a minute and squeeze/suck the wound if it's small enough and figure I'm good to go.
Ummm Dave, please stay inside, wrapped in bubble wrap in a padded room. LOL!
Iodine is your friend.
So is Hydrogen Peroxide.
Go shake hands with your friend, Dave.
Just wondering if the only reason this is news is because she's a young blue-eyed blonde woman. What if she was 40, had bad teeth and bad hair? Would people care as much?
Of course not.
When this happened to my grandmother we just dug a hole and thru her in.
Pour some four loko on it
you just made my day
What a waste!
is that what we are calling Obama now ?
Shut it, threadjacker.
Flesh Eating Bacteria, Rabies Virus, and Mad Cow Disease. I'd classify those as very malevolent afflictions. Kind of otherworldly in my book, but that's just me.
i though only palin had all these
If this took place 10-20 years ago she probably would have just had a nasty cut and a nasty scar. It seems like over the last few years any water source in warmer parts of the country has become pretty scary. And yes, I believe if the victim wasn't a pretty young woman who's life was just beginning, this story would have received minimal coverage. No one at any age, and regardless of beauty, deserves to suffer from this. I pray this young lady doesn't have to lose any more limbs/fingers or any more than what she's already lost đź™
"Fear of 'Flesh-Eating Disease' Spreads Faster Than Cases of It....Health experts stress virus is rare, not easily spread."
From the LA Times, June 1994. In other words between 10-20 years ago.
This bacteria has been around for millions of years. It isn't new like you describe.
The problem is they should not have closed the wound in the first place. Should have used a wound vac.
@fory06 is spot on his/her comments. A year and a half ago I was hospitalized with necrotizing fascitis (thanks to MRSA) and had a series of operations over the next several months; I almost did not live to see 2011.
The reason I am fully recovered now was because of these wound vacs.
If two necrotizing fasciitis organisms of the same sex wanted to marry, would Obama support and Romney oppose the union? Either way, we all know it's Obama's fault for allowing necrotizing fasciitis to flourish so well...
"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that each year there are about 10,000 U.S. cases of group A streptococcus, a collection of bacteria that includes necrotizing fasciitis. Approximately 20% of the cases of necrotizing fasciitis are fatal, according to the CDC. "
This is kind of irresponsible reporting. Group A streptococcus is an extremely common organism, but only a small minority of infections ever become serious like this. The average Group A Strep infection is a sore throat for a few days, which would likely cure up without penicillin. We only need to give penicillin to avoid the small but very real risk of more serious problems.
Flesh eating bacteria that attacks you from the inside and slowly kills. Sounds like a really bad marriage.
hahahaha good one jesus đź›
The world of microbes is complex. The group A strep infection in your throat that goes away in a few days could destroy you quickly if allowed to enter an open wound. The same group A species may not express all or any of its many enzymes or toxins and may pass unnoticed. This particular case is disturbing because it does not mention prophylactic antibiotic administered. A traumatic wound received in fresh water should have had Aeromonas hydrophilia considered and approriate therapy given. Never, never, never underestimate the world of microbes. treat every wound as dangerous.
So long as the doctors can save my man bits and my brain,
I'm good
But if they can't keep the bits and the brain, please just let me go
Please.
Some of us are a little more particular and would at least need to have at least one hand or at least a knub for a prosthesis.
Get accustomed to a lot more things like this as global warming gets worse. Plus, you are all eating all of the fish out of the oceans, lakes, and streams and those fish eat these flesh eating bacteria. In a few years you better not even get too near any water that isn't bottled or otherwise purified.
I was lucky enough to get a tour of the U.S.N.S. Comfort many years ago, and was imerssped with the size and scope of this floating hospital. It is massive and includes OR suites, ICU wards, dental operatories, and quarters for the crew to name only a few. I have been privileged to serve with the U.S. Army Medical Corp. They are true heroes: serving a country that sorely needs to repair its national pride. Thank you for posting this blog about Lt. Cooper's experiences, it is inspiring and makes me proud to be an American.
Wonder what would happen if you had a bloody nose and swam in an infected pond?
Would you die in hours?
As long as you aren't rummaging through the pond mud with your face like a catfish then I think you'd be ok with a bloody nose in the water.
agree with Fritz
Why can't 1/2 the obese people in the US get the flesh eating virus?
"If necrotizing fasciitis is detected early, only skin or fat may need to be removed. But if the infection is detected later, amputation may be necessary to stop the spread of the bacteria."
This is misleading – the biggest problem with NF is that is spreads so incredibly fast, there is almost no time to diagnose it before it has done significant damage. I have yet to hear of a true NF patient who only had skin and fat removed and didn't require amputation of muscle and bone.
And the vast majority of strep A infections are minor, but if strep A begins to develop toxins it is a nasty, nasty infection. We still don't really understand what causes a garden-variety bacteria to go from bacteria to bacteria-producing toxins, but once any bacteria gets to the toxin stage, the fatality rate is quite high – think diphtheria toxin, botulism toxin, etc.
It is my observation that infections that go to the toxin stage tend to be in younger and healthier patients – perhaps their immune systems are hyper-efficient? – but that is only anecdotal on my part, I have no concrete data to back that up.
Here I am. I distinctly recall one of my surgeons (I had 5 in my second debridment) who said they have seen it move so quickly as they are cutting out the necrotizing facia they could see the damage growing faster than they could cut. I was threatened with the loss of my left foot, maybe my right leg and certainly my right arm. I kept them all, and when my reconstructive surgeon thought "this poor woman, they saved her arm but she'll never use it"she too was mistaken, I had a 9 day old baby I had stuff to do. I was not 'young' (35 at the time), the only compromise was I was 9 days post natal. Two months in the hospital, had to learn to walk again. Here's the real problem with NF, it presents just like the flu and is horribly misdiagnosed by docs who aren't familar with it or expect to see it and minutes count. I was lucky enough to have a doc rounding ICU first thing who wanted me tested, and a charge nurse who fought to have them open up my legs too while the doc in that night wanted to "watch" it.
Can anybody clarify something for me? I seem to remember reading that the loss of fingers is not the result of the bacteria but of drugs that are administered to restrict blood flow and prevent the spread of the infection. So basically, they intentionally cut off circulation to the extremities, which sometimes have to be amputated as a result. Is this correct, or is it actually the bacteria damaging the fingers?
The drugs you refer to, inotropes or 'pressors', are often used in critical sepsis patients to perfuse the kidneys. These patients basically have NO VASCULAR RESISTANCE, drop their blood pressure and will die quickly if pressors are NOT given, often in large doses. Sometimes, the net effect of the pressors is that distal perfusion is compromised and amputations are frequently the result. That is what is likely happening with this poor girl. The pathogen is NOT eating her fingers and you are essentially correct. It's a terrible decision to make, but always done at the point of death in order to to save the patient's life.
That's a really good question. That never occurred to me. Thanks for the heads up.
This article – and nearly every other article – doesn't mention that she had a compromised immune system after having being diagnosed with Lupus. Some articles have suggested that this was an additional risk factor, some have suggested that it really wasn't that important of a risk factor. Still, the quality of reporting on this issue has been horrendous.
wow...ive been cut with fishhooks many times while fishing in southern US ponds ,rivers ect...so how come some people get this and some dont?
Although I haven't seen initial injury ("deep gash") or the patient, basic rules = irrigate wound well, DRAIN(s) in deep wound, no primary closure (except possible steri-strips here and there allowing more drainage and "teaching" the flaps to eventually stay in the right direction as wound cleanly heals). Not a "guaranteed" success, but odds pretty good. Also, should be checked by MD closely post ER procedure. Having an autoimmune disease such as lupus adds to problem(s) = even simple wound healing. What I have just stated is NOT medical advice from me.
Thank you, Olaf Big. At least you appear to understand basic microbiology, not to mention Latin. Why can't Americans understand the difference between the singular and plural form of the word "bacterium," not to mention the difference between the causative agent and the disease itself? These so-called journalists should be fired.
This victim has Lupus & is on steroids, which suppresses her immune system. We come up against bacteria capable of doing this kind of damage to us all the time – just waiting for an opportunity to get into our bodies thru a cut or deep scratch. A healthy immune system is what keeps most of us safe.
What if she caught that bacteria in the hospital itself?
good point
meanwhile i pooped
And we're *all* so *very* proud of you. {ROLLEYES}
Wow, i didn't know that these horrible kinds of diseases or flesh eating bacteria existed. How horrible. I pray for that 24 yr old woman.
Hi, Neat post. There's an issue together with your web site in internet explorer, could check this? IE still is the marketplace leader and a good component of other people will miss your excellent writing due to this problem.
I'm not sure where you're getting your info, but great topic. I must spend some time studying more or understanding more. Thanks for fantastic info I used to be looking for this info for my mission.
certainly like your website but you have to take a look at the spelling on quite a few of your posts. Many of them are rife with spelling issues and I find it very bothersome to tell the truth then again I will certainly come again again.
Hi, Neat post. There is a problem together with your web site in web explorer, would test this? IE nonetheless is the marketplace leader and a huge element of other folks will leave out your wonderful writing due to this problem.
You really make it appear so easy together with your presentation but I in finding this topic to be actually something which I feel I would by no means understand. It kind of feels too complicated and extremely vast for me. I am looking forward in your subsequent put up, I'll try to get the grasp of it!
Simply wish to say your article is as surprising. The clarity in your post is just great and that i can think you are knowledgeable on this subject. Well with your permission let me to clutch your RSS feed to keep up to date with drawing close post. Thanks 1,000,000 and please keep up the rewarding work.
Oh good grief. Everyone take a deep breath.....
Very great post. I just stumbled upon your blog and wanted to mention that I have really loved browsing your blog posts. After all I will be subscribing on your rss feed and I'm hoping you write again soon!
Hello my loved one! I want to say that this article is amazing, great written and include almost all important infos. I would like to look extra posts like this .
Woah this blog is excellent i love studying your posts. Keep up the great paintings! You know, many individuals are searching around for this information, you can aid them greatly.
Its such as you read my mind! You appear to understand a lot about this, such as you wrote the e-book in it or something. I think that you just could do with a few p.c. to drive the message house a little bit, but other than that, that is magnificent blog. An excellent read. I will definitely be back.
Terrific paintings! This is the kind of information that are supposed to be shared across the internet. Shame on the seek engines for not positioning this put up upper! Come on over and consult with my site . Thanks =)
Hello there, simply changed into alert to your blog thru Google, and located that it's truly informative. I'm going to be careful for brussels. I'll be grateful if you continue this in future. Many people will probably be benefited out of your writing. Cheers!
Hi my family member! I want to say that this article is amazing, nice written and include approximately all important infos. I would like to look more posts like this .
Hello my family member! I want to say that this post is amazing, great written and include approximately all significant infos. I'd like to see extra posts like this .
Excellent post. I used to be checking continuously this weblog and I am impressed! Extremely useful info specifically the ultimate section 🙂 I take care of such info a lot. I used to be seeking this certain info for a long time. Thank you and good luck.
I clicked the link to this site by mistake, but wanted to see this post. I recommended it to a friend to check out. Cheers!
Hi to every one, it's actually a good for me to pay a quick visit this web page, it contains important Information. christian louboutin new york
KxbaGKQL [url=http://monclerdoudoune3.webnode.fr/]Moncler Doudoune[/url]
gbosDIRcu http://airjordanshop.npage.de/
lxrtyuwogp [url=http://converseallstars.jouwweb.nl/#5812]Converse All Stars[/url]
JYSbTjygk smfzbg [url=http://monclerdoudoune3.webnode.fr/]Moncler Doudoune[/url]
EwrWPQHZsvp BqevZUGD [url=http://uggbootsireland.manifo.com]Ugg Australia Ireland[/url]
aowkLIErf ZolfGLSO http://louboutinskor.blinkweb.com/
xqlnUOIqx
I have a salt water system pool, should i get rid of it and go back to normal?
Got my first letter yesterday! Loved it. I feel like I am a aspect of something terrific which is just starting to take place. Feeling a strange sense of community around it all. Maybe you happen to be on to something here! Who would have ever considered that persons would really print out words on paper just to have it sent throughout the mail to another person's mailbox. Next thing you know, peoe will be growing their own food and walking or riding bikes everywhere. It'll never do the job, damn progress.