Learning to see: How vision sharpens
September 19th, 2011
09:12 AM ET

Learning to see: How vision sharpens

Editor's Note: Sandra Aamodt and Sam Wang are the authors of Welcome to Your Child's Brain, a guide to what's really going on in the mind from conception to college.

Babies are born nearly blind. You may think that your newborn is gazing into your eyes, but what she actually sees is a vaguely face-shaped blur, associated with loving sounds and possibly milk. How she develops mature vision is mostly automatic, requiring involvement from you only at a few key points.

Though vision feels seamless, the brain constructs its image of the world from neural activity in dozens of interconnected regions that specialize in particular aspects of seeing. All these cortical areas are immature at birth, so babies’ acuity starts out forty times worse than adults’ and doesn’t become equal until four to six years of age. Indeed, an adult who could see as well as a newborn would have 20/600 vision.

The champion of the infant visual system is motion, which develops early and is relatively difficult to disrupt. At four weeks of age, babies can detect a flickering stimulus in a single location almost as well as adults. Babies can discriminate motion direction around seven weeks and speed by twenty weeks. Perception of global motion patterns, like raindrops seen through the windshield of a moving car, improves rapidly between three and five months and then continues to develop slowly through middle childhood. This aspect of motion processing, the most vulnerable to disruption, is impaired in some developmental disorders, including dyslexia, autism, fragile-X syndrome, and Williams syndrome.

From birth, babies are attracted to faces. Very young babies, though, are working from an approximate model of what a face looks like, as they will look at almost any round thing that has two “eyes” and a “mouth” in the right place. (This is not very surprising if you consider how poorly they see real faces.) By four or five months, their preferences are more realistic, and babies have begun to process faces differently from other objects. This change probably reflects maturation of the fusiform face area, a region in the temporal cortex specialized for face processing. This brain specialization enables ordinary adults to beat the world’s best computer programs in detecting subtle differences between faces. The fusiform face area is preferentially activated by faces already in two-month-old infants.

Visual experience influences the development of face-recognition expertise starting in infancy. Six-month-olds are as good at distinguishing individual monkeys as individual people, but by nine months, babies become better at identifying people and lose the ability to recognize monkey faces. During this period, babies also become better at distinguishing faces within their own racial group than within other racial groups, probably because most babies have more visual experience with their own group than with others. This process probably involves the sculpting of synaptic connections by experience to tune perception to the characteristics of the local environment.

Children whose vision is impaired by cataracts demonstrate the need for visual experience in the development of seeing. Babies who have cataracts from birth retain the poor acuity of newborns until their eye function is surgically restored, even as late as nine months of age. With experience, their acuity improves, but deprivation for the first three to eight months leads to acuity more than three times worse than normal at five years of age. Global motion perception is affected by cataracts only in the first three months of life.

So under most conditions, development of vision goes fine—though parents do need to watch out for exceptional cases needing further attention. Routine well-baby exams should catch most issues of this sort, but early treatment of any sensory deficit, if possible, will help to minimize later difficulties. Luckily, problems in visual development are the exception. In most cases, parents get a free ride and can simply sit back and watch their child’s new abilities grow.

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  1. cheryl

    how do they test what babies see? this is a real question, NOT intended as disparaging...just curious how they study it

    September 19, 2011 at 11:06 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Chris

      I'm no neuroscientist, but I'm betting they measure the activity in the regions of the brain that process visual input.

      September 19, 2011 at 14:31 | Report abuse |
    • eyedoc

      Visual evoked potential, which monitors changes in brain activity as a stimulus is shown. Preferential looking or "Teller" cards, which work on the basis that infants naturally look towards a more visually interesting stimulus (black and white lines vs. solid gray).

      September 19, 2011 at 14:59 | Report abuse |
  2. Des Welch

    My friend's child (who is 10) has struggled in school from day one. She has had his eyes tested multiple times and the diagnosis is always the same, his eye sight is fine. He continued to complain about reading, saying that the words "move" and that he gets headaches when he reads. She decided to take him to a opthamologist who tested him with a new visual aid that apparently helps regulate the speed at which the information enters the eye (that's the best way I can describe it). The results were immediate, he could tell a difference right there in the office. He has been fitted for the lenses and my friend said that they have made a world of difference in the past month, his teachers have noticed and his confidence has soared. My friend is so thrilled, I can hear the relief in her voice. Wish more people knew about this, at least to get tested to see if it could help their kids or themselves because they would know right away. The company that makes them is called Chromagen Vision, not sure if every opthamologist carries them.

    September 19, 2011 at 11:17 | Report abuse | Reply
    • nemommy

      I think you are referring to Irlen Syndrome. Some opthamologists subscribe to this belief, some do not.

      September 19, 2011 at 12:29 | Report abuse |
    • Des Welch

      No this isn't Irlen, its that basic idea taken to the next level or "generation" might be a better word.

      September 19, 2011 at 13:56 | Report abuse |
    • Anon

      Irlen and Chromogen are both scams.

      September 19, 2011 at 15:39 | Report abuse |
    • snow

      May be that they are considered scams in academics.. But, how do you explain the improvement in the kid? that could not have been faked by the doctor just to prove his stand..

      I do not think anyone should take a hard stand on anything medical (as long as there are no detrimental effects). If a particular method does not help, move on to something else. if it does, well, thats what you want.. isnt it?

      Medical field is not a pure science. In science, for any machine, if you give the same input, the output will always be the same. Not in medicine. It is merely a collection of experimental data put togather over the course of centuries.

      September 19, 2011 at 17:03 | Report abuse |
    • Des Welch

      Snow, very eloquently stated. My friend's kid has been helped so much, I just had to share. This is something that you can be tested for and see immediately if it works or not, right in the doctor's office. If it works for you it works, if it doesn't, it doesn't, nothing scammy about it. Just hate that people who could really be helped would be turned off before they even know about it.

      September 19, 2011 at 19:16 | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Snow and Des, I bet you two are either the same person or you both work in the same office that sells chromogen. Great sales pitch from you both unless you are the same person.

      September 19, 2011 at 22:59 | Report abuse |
    • Eyes

      Just doing a favor so everyone can hear about how well "your friends child (age 10" did? I mean seriously? You couldn't at least come up with a fake name or gender? Or at least claim it was your kid? Wow, what a good samaritan letting us all know about your friends child. I hope you sell a lot of lenses.

      September 19, 2011 at 23:02 | Report abuse |
    • Des Welch

      Believe it or not, some people do actually care about others and want to spread the word about things that are good. The kid's name is Jared and he is from Chicago, because he is a minor, I can't share anything more than that. I don't have the doctor's name or any other information, if I were a salesperson I should be fired for not even giving basic contact info. Too bad so many people are so cynical and hateful.

      September 20, 2011 at 10:06 | Report abuse |
    • Anon

      So your friend told you all about the lenses and didn't even tell you the doctors name. Your friend is weird. Weird that your friend doesn't know how to post on CNN too. Weirder still that you so strongly recommend these lenses without even trying them yourself or on one of your family members.

      September 20, 2011 at 15:39 | Report abuse |
    • KT

      I am not familiar with the Chromagen system, but the blue or grey filters may have some potential scientific explanation. There are two neurological systems for carrying info to the brain. The magno and parvo systems. The theory is that the two systems are out of sync and that by filtering one system out, reading improves. I think this is reasonable sounding with my doctor of optometry background. And otherwise, I figure, if there are people who notice an improvement with filter use... then at the least there must me some placebo effect. Either way, seems win-win if you benefit. Of course, it won't help everyone and there are other problems that must be ruled out first or in addition.

      September 20, 2011 at 22:04 | Report abuse |
    • Eyes

      Thanks KT. This myth of magno and parvo cellular contributions to reading that you are describing has been well debunked. I would recommend you read the policy statement on learning and vision from the American Academy of Pediatrics. It's a shame that people try and take advantage of parents who's children are having reading problems.

      September 21, 2011 at 00:17 | Report abuse |
  3. Heinz M

    This is such an amazing pile of crock. Both my brother and myself have memories going back to the 6 month old and less than 1 year old stage. The times have been substantiated by certain acts that only took place at these times, and both of our vision memories are perfect. There was no blurriness of any kind at those ages.
    I always have to smile when I hear such 'scientific findings', that are pure conjecture, and essentially (mostly) unprovable.
    And in certain cases, like here, counter-able by people that by personal experience know better. I sure hope a government grant wasn't wasted on these 'findings'. Why not just takes some pages out of Grimm's fairy tales? 😉

    September 19, 2011 at 11:28 | Report abuse | Reply
    • No way

      No way in the world could you see or remember anything at 6 months of age. Don't kid yourself, you were probably 2 years old.

      September 19, 2011 at 12:17 | Report abuse |
    • 57 Types of Ignorance

      I always have to smile when I hear unverifiable anecdotal "evidence" being presented as superior to rigorous scientific research.

      September 19, 2011 at 12:26 | Report abuse |
    • Chartreuxe

      Conjecture. Look it up, Heinz.

      September 19, 2011 at 12:56 | Report abuse |
    • GSUA

      Heinz: Do you feel that those memories have retained the exact level of detail that they had when first formed? Ignoring the argument about memory formation at such a young age, I think it would be appropriate for you to at least concede that over time your adult brain could have rewritten what you remember seeing.

      September 19, 2011 at 13:09 | Report abuse |
    • JulieMS

      I'm sure it was probably from hearing someone mention these things you saw that sparked your memory.

      September 19, 2011 at 13:53 | Report abuse |
    • Will

      To the people who are doubting Heinz, I can tell you with 100% positive certainty that I had vision when I was born, because (a) I remember the plasticky texture of the mat I was on in the maternity ward, and (b) I remember the patterns on it (cartoon animals on a white background). I couldn't care less if people believe me or not, you aren't me and you don't share my memories so shut up. I have nothing to prove to anyone.

      September 19, 2011 at 18:04 | Report abuse |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Yeah, you do. You're delusional and idiotic. That's the only proof I see here, you nitwit.

      September 19, 2011 at 21:18 | Report abuse |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Heinz, you're nothing but a bottled tomato-brain.

      September 19, 2011 at 21:19 | Report abuse |
    • WasThere

      I too have vivid, detailed coroborated memories from about 6 months of age.. (I'm now 67) It did not seem significant before, but the visual imagery is sharp and clear and includes relatives who were living at the time but were deceased before I was two years old, so I could not have "remembered" them from later exposure.

      September 20, 2011 at 00:07 | Report abuse |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why not? Hadn't photography been invented? Come on. Anyone who watches TV knows that eye-witness accounts are unreliable.

      September 20, 2011 at 09:03 | Report abuse |
    • KT, OD

      A six month old sees much better than 20/600... that is a Newborn who sees that poorly. A six month old could see 20/60 or 20/80. Just a little bit larger detail than newspaper print. I also have memories from before age one. I remember yellow hall closet doors from a house we moved from by the time I was age one. And I remember wishing they'd let me look out the window longer before putting me in the crib.

      September 20, 2011 at 22:08 | Report abuse |
    • KT, OD

      The article did not define ages in months well. Color vision by four months. Depth perception by 6 months. These things are measurable. It is verifiable.

      September 20, 2011 at 22:16 | Report abuse |
  4. charls

    Vision is just like hearing and talking. A person "learns" to do all of these things. The difference is that hearing and talking are much more "visible" to the parents. Of course we have to learn how to see. We live in a three dimensional world but our vision presents the world in only two dimension, even with the help of binocular vision. When you are driving, you see a car coming towards you and you are able to make judgements about its size and motion based upon your experience seeing a moving car. Without that experience you would not be able to drive a car. This applies to the hundreds of activities that everyone does every day.

    This was a fascinating report and gives insight into a babies world.

    September 19, 2011 at 14:08 | Report abuse | Reply
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    September 19, 2011 at 18:03 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sure thing, Cletus.

      September 19, 2011 at 21:20 | Report abuse |
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    September 19, 2011 at 21:22 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Christianna

      Tom, are you okay? Praying for you. I think you are going insane because you hate religion and support perv immorality and use filthy language. All of them are bad to your character and to your brain.

      September 20, 2011 at 01:20 | Report abuse |
    • Dan

      Really? Hating religion, having different morals, and using "filthy" language equals insanity to you?

      How about denying religion is sanity? Filthy language is a joke – what makes one word so much more offensive than another and who gets to decide? And perv immorality? That goes back to whatever cult you choose to follow I guess.

      September 20, 2011 at 08:58 | Report abuse |
    • mike3

      No, but when it seems that one is attacking people for not having a lot of intelligence - something they CAN'T HELP as it's what they were born with - then that looks really morally bad, at least to me. It's like attacking someone who was born without an arm for their lack of said arm.

      "How about denying religion is sanity?"

      So then are you saying NOT denying it is INsanity, and so a majority of the world's population is INsane and so *BAD* people? If so, then I really disagree. I'll side with the ones you call "idiot" on THIS particular issue, then. You can believe whatever the heck you please about religion - love it, hate it, whatever - but when you start calling others bad due to disagreeing beliefs about it, then you've got a problem (and this puts you in the same boat as a lot of religious people).

      September 20, 2011 at 15:18 | Report abuse |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Just fine, dimbulb. You?

      If anyone is insane here, honey, it's you and your pals. Get your head examined, dufus.

      September 20, 2011 at 09:04 | Report abuse |
  7. Terry

    CNN, you forgot the degrees of the authors. They are Ph.D's. In this day and age anyone can claim anything. I researched the author's before I read the article. Excellent article though!

    September 20, 2011 at 06:06 | Report abuse | Reply

    I found it interesting that "During this period, babies also become better at distinguishing faces within their own racial group than within other racial groups, probably because most babies have more visual experience with their own group than with others"

    What about children with parents of a different race? (e.g. adopted )

    September 20, 2011 at 06:25 | Report abuse | Reply
  9. Des Welch

    Yes, some people do actually care about others and want to spread the word about things that are good. The kid's name is Jared and he is from Chicago, because he is a minor, I can't share anything more than that. I don't have the doctor's name or any other information, if I were a salesperson I should be fired for not even giving basic contact info. Too bad so many people are so cynical and hateful.

    September 20, 2011 at 09:47 | Report abuse | Reply
  10. ks31416

    I don't remember my vision as an infant, but I clearly remember that at 4 years my vision was sharp and in full color (much better than it is now). That makes the other grey and faint images at earlier ages also doubtful.

    September 20, 2011 at 13:42 | Report abuse | Reply
  11. Eyedoc

    Check out http://www.infantsee.com It is a program providing free eye exams for all children under 12 months of age. Well child exams can not pick up anything but very obvious vision issues, and the children are the ones that pay for the lack of referrals to eye doctors for comprehensive eye exams. We can learn the same information from an infant or other nonverbal individual as an adult, just using different techniques.

    September 20, 2011 at 13:48 | Report abuse | Reply
  12. mike3

    (that last post was a reply to "Dan", btw)

    September 20, 2011 at 15:18 | Report abuse | Reply
  13. 19steve19

    I remember being born. It was terrifying.

    September 20, 2011 at 15:42 | Report abuse | Reply
  14. SCamp13

    I am a tad hesitant to accept some details in the article, such as taking the example photos/timeline of how children may perceive faces.

    I say this because of both my experience with my own children (in which they frequently show signs of very much surpassing vision development "norms," and also my basic understanding of the development/role of the facial fusiform area of the brain. Though it is true that babies come to recognize aspects of human faces better over time, infants are actually initially much BETTER than older children and adults at deciphering even "monkey" faces with similar features – specifically 2 chimpanzee (can't remember if it was chimps or not) faces that to an adult would look essentially identical.

    It is only after some of that "learning" in the brain takes place that the infants lose that ability to detect differences in other species' faces and get more accustomed to/specialized for seeing human faces.

    Also, there are a lot of degrading comments on here (sheesh!). No need to beat others down because of their opinions or comments. Science is important and plays a role, but in no way is it complete, especially when it comes to the amazing depths of the brain's development. And though I respect PhD's a lot, I would lean more towards trusting the gut feeling of educated, up-to-date docs who can add to their scientific viewpoints a history of dealing with large numbers of the people such articles try to describe.

    Just my two bits.

    September 21, 2011 at 01:08 | Report abuse | Reply
  15. Sharp

    Interesting to see why people will say "Black people all look alike", or "White people all look alike." It makes sense if you are pre-programmed by only seeing members of your own race during this critical period.

    September 21, 2011 at 08:33 | Report abuse | Reply
  16. xyz

    Hi Sanjay,

    I have written in your forum a couple of times before. I saw your in Andersoncooper's show today for conjoint twins. Is this practical? How are the restroom habits? These two are girls, right? And you are a doctor...what about puberty? Will this work in the long run? The parents seem to be in good cheer, but I am surprised the parents wanted to continue with the pregnancy. I mean, with all the scans these days I am amazed a parent went through this. It is easy for me to suggest abortion, but this is quiet a strain on both of them. As the body matures and the weight of the body also increases....how will this work. How about their college education, married life !!!! What if one wants to do BA arts and the other Math, so is both the child going to take two degree courses? Why dont you suggest to the parents atleast behind the scenes about their married life? Is married life even possible?

    September 21, 2011 at 14:56 | Report abuse | Reply
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    I think this is kinda like applying for a star of the Hollwyood Walk of Fame. Maybe it an even bigger honor since the Oleson twins have a star. no matter what, The now out and proud Clay Aiken was honored this week with a caricature that now adorns the walls of the famed eatery Sardi is already on Broadway portraying Sir Robin in Python Spamalot at the Shubert Theatre. Th3 2003 Idol athlete up made his Broadway debut in the show on a Jan. 18 and played with the aid of May 4. He sent back to the show Sept. 19 and will continue to be in the role through Jan. 4, 2009.

    This is a nice write up but Clay Aiken is so far beyond an ex contestant that it is just wrong to label him as that when he has concluded so much in the past 6 years.

    Clay is a UNICEF Ambassador since 2004 who has been sent to philippines, Uganda, Afghanistan, mexico, Kenya and Somalia on missions to bring aid to children in crisis.

    His Bubel Aiken Foundation funds summer camps and has written school programs to foster inclusion of children with disabilities from K 12 into the same environment as their typical peers.

    He is an actress, Just finishing many of the this year on Broadway starring in Spamalot.

    Those american idol days are long over. get a lean bodynt label someone like Frank Sinatra or Gladys Knight as a talent show contestant any more than you will Justin Timberlake or Britney Ukraine women Spears. Its ancient background and only a single step in an evolving career.

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  23. Laurelynn

    Clear vision requires a clear image on the retina, when the lens is not clear the retina can not receive a clear image. With age, changes in the lens may cause clouding of the lens and lead to cataract.

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    Jean-Baptiste Poquelin (Molier) twierdzil ze, Gdy kobieta odmawia milosci, a proponuje ci przyjazń, nie bierz tego za odmowe, znaczy to, ze chce postepowac wedlug kolejnosci.Czy ludzie sa tacy prosci ?


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  25. Mamma

    Perceptual learning can improve the vision of people who already see quite well and those with other conditions. For example, a study tested the approach in 23 young adults, around age 24. Compared with a control group of 20 young adults, the treatment group increased letter recognition speed. Similar training is an effective component in treating amblyopia, also called “ lazy eye ,” which is the most frequent cause of vision loss in infants and children, affecting 3 percent of the population. It may also improve vision in those with mild myopia (nearsightedness).

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    How to turn your entire lady fantastic on the road to Something good deal

    it will affect practically anyone into due lesson. You gotten inlove with one of friends. one problem is she absolutely zero attention obtainable and reads you as a "close friend, ouch! feasible turn his or her under the particular ex-girlfriend?

    ones initial thing i wish for you to confirm that you can certainly do this. It might be hard to do it, but also without a doubt, it can be! possibly have a friend who eventually finished up online dating some ex-girlfriend they will only related to as companion for.

    my wife often not really taking into consideration you as your good friend played with to you being one almost loved one. that you must demonstrate to her an alternative border people, should you prefer a shot at luring together with switching him involved in your girlfriend. you have to turn into an male.

    she's going to see you in a totally new manner as there are a chance associated with she may start to truly feel interested in you whenever you can show her couple of area of you never seen she before you. Start by wearing new clothes possibly serve differently you're with her.

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    these kinds of reaction you can have is to experience a get with your ex. Doesn necessarily most likely be a date, but your impartial obtain to attract her. You will take her chicken breast some thing in some place that create long together in advance of. rear, here is your chance to demonstrate to her the fresh new selection people.

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