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May 9th, 2011
08:01 AM ET
Inside women's sexual brains, preferences and pornMen everywhere have probably wondered for thousands of years: What turns women on? In the age of the Internet, it's possible to find out. And with countless genres of images, videos and erotic stories available online, women are both able and empowered to access arousing material, and figure out for themselves what they like. Some are watching porn, as our sex columnist Ian Kerner pointed out in a recent column. But what women are viewing and reading is usually not what men are searching for, according to a new book on the subject. In "A Billion Wicked Thoughts," released Thursday, neuroscientists Ogi Ogas and Sai Gaddam combine web searches, personal search histories, websites, and classified ads with insights from brain science to discover precisely how different women are from men. Just like we're all born with taste cues - sweet, salty, savory, spicy, bitter - men and women's brains are wired with sexual cues, Ogas said. For men, the cues are predominantly visual, and aimed at the partner; they often enjoy seeing women orgasm, which may be one of the reasons why so many women fake. But women are more complex; they place a high importance on feeling desired, for example, whereas it appears men generally don't need to feel desired at all in order to feel aroused. "A woman wants to know that there’s going to be repeat action, that he’s committed and is going to be coming back," Ogas said. Women are sexually complex in other important ways. If a man is physically turned on, he's also psychologically turned on, which is why medications for erectile dysfunction (i.e. Viagra) can deliver fairly straightforward results. But a woman can be physically turned on and mentally turned off at the very same time, making efforts toward a treatment for low female sexual desire all the more complicated. And as to what makes a woman go beyond mere arousal and have sex, you'll have to read this other article. The female sexual brain is also like a “detective agency” that investigates a man’s many qualities before deciding whether he’s worth her attention, the authors said. Evolutionarily, that makes sense. In the earliest days of humans, females who mated with the first males they encountered would not have fared as well as those who took the time to investigate their partners a little more. The "detective agency" would make sure that the chosen male would not be cruel, unfaithful or sneaky, would protect the woman and her child. More important than evolution, though, is the "software" of the sexual brain, Ogas and Gaddam said. Again, men are simple: The male brain is designed so that any stimulus can trigger arousal. For some, a single cue is necessary and sufficient, which is what makes a fetish, well, a fetish. For instance, some men get turned on in the presence of attractive shoes or feet, and need to see that in order to feel stimulated. On the other hand, fetishes are extremely rare among women. The female brain usually doesn't respond to a single trigger every time; there can be lots of different combinations of things that can get them in the mood. "The male sexual brain is like a single toggle switch, whereas the female sexual brain is like the cockpit of an F1 fighter jet," Gaddam said. "There are tons of dials and instruments, and there's sophisticated calibration going on." To fully appreciate this, feast your eyes on these two real search histories from America Online users:
As you can see, this woman tends to prefer stories ("fanfiction," or narratives based on existing movies/TV/literature) much more than the man, who searches for specific images. The majority of these stories are romantic and lightly erotic, but plenty of women like graphic erotic stories, too. In the search above you can see this one gal is particularly interested in Legolas from "Lord of the Rings" and the actor who portrays him: Orlando Bloom. And there's a lot of conversation that goes on among women about erotic stories about the inner feelings of the characters, whereas men consume porn alone and don't talk about the aesthetics, Gaddam said. "Male erotica is a solitary enterprise, and female erotica is a social enterprise," Ogas said. A minority of women do watch visual porn. Based on analyses of user profiles on a porn website, these ladies tend to be more socially aggressive, comfortable taking risks, and open to bisexual experiences. They also tend to have a higher sex drive. And while many men do seek out porn involving young women, there's a substantial interest in seeing scantily clad (or not clad at all) older women too. Significant numbers of web searches and websites out there are devoted to women in their 40s, 50s, 60s. There's even a genre called "granny porn," with a consistent following, in which the male performer's age is highly variable. It's hard to know how old the men are who are seeking this class of erotica, but the authors speculate they come from a wide range of ages, since men's sexual interests are pretty solid by age 25. Women, on the other hand, have much more flexible and dynamic interests during a lifetime. What about homosexuality? The authors compared gay and straight male sexuality, and found they were strikingly similar. The differences: gay men like men, and are more likely to be aroused by the submissive role in sex than straight men. Lesbians are far more complicated, and Ogas and Gaddam don't think they have enough information to make any definitive comparisons about it. The authors don't take any moral positions on any of this, but they do point out that individual tastes and preferences are difficult or impossible to modify. Yet everyone assumes their own interests are the norm, and we quickly label anything else as weird or even dangerous, Gaddam said. "We should all be more sexually tolerant," Ogas said. soundoff (1,125 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 Next »Leave a Reply to EncoxDev
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Is anyone else having a problem with the filters? I had a serious comment article but apparently can't say anything about this topic without using a banned word.
Have experience at this do you?
Yep! I hate it when my husband has to repeat himself!
Diedra...I had the same problem. I wrote two thoughtful responses to the article. Both of my responses had the SAME descriptive words as the article uses..."s3x" and "org..." but, I spelled them normally. The filter rejected my appropriate responses even though the article mentions these same words verbatum. If there's ever been a case of bringing CNN's journalistic credibility into question, it is with instances like this...where serious responses like ours get flagged for using the same language as the author uses. This is very troubling.
Stop erasing jokes!!!
You mean the word "ѕех"? heh...
Open "charmap" search for "Cyrillic" copy the characters you need.... then insert them in place of their Latin counterparts. Pretty simple way to get around just about any word filter since most of them only block certain character code combinations.
William your full of shxt and you are troubling... Go find something better to do.
It's clbuttic.
You mean people are still using AOL? I was amazed that idiots were still using MySpace and FaceBook – but AOL? Dang!
America Online is the website they used for the study? I guess that is OK if you are interested women who are 45 or older.
America Online still exists?????
doesn't AOL sukk? there are people out there who still actually use that pagaambaahh??
Old people stay with AOL because they get death threats by the company so they don't leave.Actually, A while back the CEO of AOL said the only reason they're still in business is because most all of their customers are senior citizens on auto payment that just don't want to change.True Story
Apparently CNN has many ex-AOL staffers who still write the same old swill.
i can hardly wait until we can say the same sort of thing about that that other pathetic service provider, "facebook."
Funny how the "researchers" seem baffled by the amount of interest in "granny p0rn" (women 40s- 60s)well duh....if the people on AOL are older....it's really no mystery.
what kind of flower is orlando bloom?
That would be a Pansy
with tulips
NIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
hahahah! where is the like button??
and peonies
It's actually a Fungi...It occurs when too much fertalizer get's into the water supply in Florida.
Awwwwww, all these guys feel threatened by a super hot actor any chick would do in a heartbeat! Guys: doodle size and truck size don't matter but the article is correct in that the character Mr. Bloom played was desirable in so many ways. Just because you have one doesn't mean you have to be one.
So...now CNN is buying into discredited 'research' that was biased to start with and presenting it as cold hard scientific fact?
Come ON. Seriously. This has been debunked six ways from Sunday, and these guys deliberately skewed their 'surveys' to support whatever they wanted to say at the time. CNN, honestly. Go vet your sources a little bit better. The internet ripped this apart months ago.
Incidentally, for anyone who would like to see the compiled fallout from these guys' surveying and so-called research, there's a master list of links at this site: http://linkspam.dreamwidth.org/5800.html
I would guess this study tell more about what turns on the researchers than what turns on those that answered the survey. Qualitative research, especially when done online by the computer illiterate, is always suspect.
Exactly. They made the 'data' fit what they already wanted to say. Besides, when the university they claim to be affiliated with publicly states they have not a thing to do with this study and what's in it, that probably says something about its validity.
It does seem the link you give lists many people's major complaint being that they did not tell survey respondents they were writing a book about the results. As long as they honor any confidentiality statements they had that isn't a valid complaint. As a researcher I have conducted research with prior knowledge that I may write a book about the findings if they are interesting enough, so far none have been (most research is useful but not interesting to the general public). Of the complaints on the site linked I think that the most valid would be that the researchers appear to have the a priori assumption that fan fiction is written for the purpose of arousal. It shows a prejudicial belief about fiction in general by the researchers and very limited thinking.
So I have seen a horde of comments of this sort surrounding this book and I looked into them - including the one you linked to. These are comments about a survey these researchers did a couple of years back. I've been reading the book and one thing they–and scientist reviewers–stress is how unreliable surveys are, and how the authors bypass this limitation by directly looking at raw data. So all these complaints about surveys are quite misguided.
Their website and book state what they are looking at "Ogas and Gaddam analyzed a billion web searches, a million Web sites, a million erotic videos, a million erotic stories, millions of personal ads, and tens of thousands of digitized romance novels. "
I am still not sure if this would truly represent the full richness of our desire - but I am willing to take a look.I think a criticism of this approach would be reasonable, but it should be based on the content of their book and arguments. You are doing us all a disservice with your angry, emotional, and ultimately uninformed rebuttal. Let's have a scientific response here, please?
If the top sites like Google, Amazon and Faceook can't figure the perfect algorithm to figure who is looking at what online, what makes these imbeciles who are using examples from AOL searches believe they have a clue at what they are talking about?
people who refer to some as buzz-killers, did you ever think why they were complaining???
"How to handle a woman?
There's a way," said the wise old man,
"A way known by ev'ry woman
Since the whole rigmarole began."
"Do I flatter her?" I begged him answer.
"Do I threaten or cajole or plead?
Do I brood or play the gay romancer?"
Said he, smiling: "No indeed.
How to handle a woman?
Mark me well, I will tell you, sir:
The way to handle a woman
Is to love her...simply love her...
Merely love her...love her...love her."
yeah, great – so when does she put her hand down my pants?
Nice quote from "Camelot", but I doubt that the neanderthals here do musicals.
"How do you write women so well?"
"I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."
Rock, that was hillarious!
The funny thing is that this section is usually cut from productions of Camelot. Out of the four times I've seen it live in the past twenty years it wasn't in any of them.
How to handle a woman 21st century style – DON'T MARRY HER & IF YOU DO...ENTER INTO A SOLID PRENUP. Then love her.
the way to a woman's heart is through her STOMACH ! with chocolate-covered strawberries and Kahlua n' Cream (with a shot of brandy, of course!)
And the way to slowly make her less attarctive.
Why do we have all these articles about what women want and none on how women should stay in shape, eat healthier, and try to look good for their current mates in order to keep them around and the divorce rates down.
To UGH: I'm going to tell you the same thing I told my ex-husband.
If I looked any better than I do, do you think I'd still be with someone like you??
I guess you're into CELLULITE
@had_enuf, your EX sounds like one lucky man.
Yes Gumby, the way to this woman's heart is through her stomach...as well as with your tongue. 😉
These comments right here validate the authors' findings. All the men are concerned about how women look: their weight, their cellulite, their age while women want a "good man", which encompasses more of who he is and how he behaves. The comments that most men have left here indicate they are extremely undesirable due to their shallowness and intolerance. We put up with men's spare tires and aren't out there lusting after [completely inexperienced, idiotic] early 20-something boys. We love our men for who they are, not how they look. If men want female companionship who will be asking for seconds and thirds, be nice all around and it will be returned.
guys like young skinny girls, although they will tag just about anything...
Skinny girls are disgusting.
Never been interested in a skinny girl.
Playboy style models > runway models
yeah, skinny girls with stringy, greasy hairy, lots of tattoos and piercings who dye their hair black, have pale complexions, wear granny boots and hang out in coffee shops surfing facebook on their macs. that type always does it for me.
"Lesbians are far more complicated" Sheesh, tell me about it.
Yeah, looks like another passive/aggressive not so subtle anti-male article; Men, dumb, simple, single dimensional; Women, complex, subtle, sophisticated, with a brain like a "fighter jet" control panel. No mention of the alpha male response, which probably accounts for 99% of how young women respond to men. Guess what? Big turn off.
Best I ever had was with a Bi. She was amazing!
Meemee, for you, all this reading and education is a turn off. Please go back to "cheerleaders", "cheerleaders in bikinis", etc. and fire off your "rockets" from inside your alpha male fighter jet. You and the cheerleaders will be all alone. Remember that "simple" doesn't mean "dumb". It means simple. Men and women are different, a very true statement that also happens to be devoid of judgement. You, however, have issued a very judgemental statement that shows the caveman mentality you posess. Articles about women are threatening to you. You should explore that.
"If a man is physically turnned on, he's also psychologically turneddd on," I have a major problem with this statement. My male partner was a victim of childhood abuse. It's insulting, detrimental and irresponsible to make a statement that implies a 12 year old boy is "psychologically turrned on" just because he is reacting physiologically to what someone is doing to him. That is the same logic that his r@pist applied! How dare you, CNN. I demand a retraction or clarification of this statement.
how do you know?!? were you there??
The article says "man" not "boy", and clearly it is referring to men without emotional scars. I hope the boy you know heals, but that quote was not aimed at him.
Sid
who r a p e d him? his 26 year old female grade school teacher?
"noooooooo"
Ahahaha
All BS!!
I know what turns black women on, and that is seeing men work – getting all hot and sweaty – having muscular boo’tays!!!
Not behind some desk sitting on mushy butts, but getting all physical and stuff!! PHEW!!!
And then, of course, bringing home that pay check they’ve earned by their sweat to PAY THE BILLS, okay??!! Yeah, baby!!!
That last part is a guaranteed APHRODISIAC for women, even possibly eliminating the need for those supplemented HRT’s!!!
what about when they are pumping iron in the prison yard (and each other later on) or when they bring home the welfare check? does that make you h o t?
I pity black women, then, as finding black men to give an honest day's work is rare. I bet it's even harder to find those that will work pantsless, too, showing off their "boo’tays".
LOL..wow..epic fail for the both of you....espcially Mr. ---.......carry yourself back to the K K K meeting your came from...moron.
Sunnygirl33: This is the sad thing about stereotypes... they are based on reality. Sad but true. Look around you, closely.
Ha-ha!! EXACTAMUNDO!!!
That is exactly why the ones who aren't working go running off to your white women, your wives, your babies mammas, your sisters and maybe your brothers, cause black women don't take no chit!!!
“If you can't help pay the bills, then get the chit up outta here, cause I can do BETTER all by myself!!!!”
Ha-ha, that‘s the smart black women‘s motto!!!
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to drive over to the cleaners as they are washing and pressing my pointy white hood. Then I have to swing by the grocery store and pick up some tortilla chips for my Mexican landscapers. THOSE people know how to WORK!
@ Whoo Datt
Right! Right! Right!
Hey listen up, while you’re at the cleaners, pick up my 2pc African Tie Dye long sleeved Dress, and get me two bag of those tortilla chips, cause you are soooo right about those cute little chocolate Mexican workers!!! They be looking hot, hot and hot and know how to work $7.00 to look like $700.00!! Yummy!!!
I’mma make the two hot workers I have some Picco de Gallo!!
It is very entertaining to read all these comments where people are assuming the authors are women and them bashing them for trying to make men look bad... Check the link to the book, BOTH authors are men. Just way too funny. The article, and premise of the book, are about as original as macaroni and cheese for dinner, but the comments are priceless...
you must be easily entertained.
Wow... Though this article mentions org and s3x several times, if you include those same words in your own comment, it will be flagged and won't appear. That's "do as I say, not as I do"-journalism if I ever saw it. Pathetic.
Ha...and yet, the article above this response has tricked CNN's filter into allowing an immature word used for human excrement. Well done, CNN!!!
Man, that is clbuttic.
somebody ought to buttbuttinate them.
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French girls they want Cartier
Italian girls want cars
American girls want everything in the world you can possibly imagine!
English girls they're so prissy, I can't stand 'em on the telephone
Sometimes I take the receiver off the hook, I don't want 'em to ever call at all.
Chinese girls they're so gentle, they're really such a tease
You never know quite what they're cookin' inside those silky sleeves - The Rolling Stones, "Some Girls"
this article is a load of shiet, i know women that fit the role of the man in this article perfectly, and the other way around. way to go generalization and average behavioral monitoring /sarcasm. this is not science.
Ain't that the truth!!!
It's closer to science than "I know this girl and she likes etc" and "I heard a lot of people etc." At least they tried. But it's not science unless it can predict stuff, or at least it's "soft" science compared to "hard" science.
Science doesn't have to be causal- this research just shows correlations. Its certainly closer to science than what you say.
I love the streotype of guys being the dumb, one-size-fits-all for arousal apes, and women being so sophisticated when it comes to s.e.x. The author asserts that it takes one thing to arouse a man but women are more complex. But in the example, the woman's search is all related to one thing: Orlando Bloom. Pretty complex, eh? Gimme a break!
Not me, I'm a married man. See? They can't get enough of me.
Another tripe "study" done on the Internet – of all places – and passed off as SCIENCE on CNN, running neck-and-neck with FOX for most worthless pile of craapp in the world.
FYI
Let's get real here! The only thing that turns women on is MONEY! Take the 20 year old female that marries the 80 year old rich male, she ain't doin him cause of his experience, if she's doin him at all? Plain and simple, Most women are just a bunch of goldiggers deep down inside.
"The only thing that turns women on is MONEY!" Sorry, it's not that. Try brushing your teeth and combing your hair, and look them right in the eye when you talk to them.
Maybe you should work out your relationship issues with a therapist.
I guess you live in LA
If that were true, there wouldn't be any poor or middle class marriages or poor or middle class births.
That only reinforces male stereotypes, JustaGuy. Think about it.
When we reduce life to women wanting money and men wanting to get off, we have taken on a deep and dangerous cynicism. I have felt the temptation to reduce things this way myself, but I have seen how dangerous that is. Please examine your beliefs with the notion that we human beings are so very much more than what you are communicating.
some women make more $ than the guy and the guy looks horrible and has a weak character. Something else is going on here that empirical science cannot prove or show.
You are about 70% right. Let us not forget the 29% of females who have a feel sorry for myself fetish and seek abusive men to fill that desire.
Man, these filters are TOUGH with this subject matter.
I have encountered more than one supposedly hetero female who likes male g^y stories and books. What is up with that? Is this common? Looks really boring to me – professor and student, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah the filtering is ridiculous...
I think that probably "those women" maybe identify with the submissive character in a way & maybe they like to read about him going through some of the stuff that a woman "normally" would ... just a guess. A little of that goes a long way for me. Altho I imagine a lot of it could involve Orlando Bloom / Legolas! LOL
Copy the Cyrillic characters from charmap if you need to spell the word, or just p ut g aps in t he w ords.
A woman wants to know that there’s going to be repeat action, that he’s committed and is going to be coming back," Ogas said.
OH NO !!!!!
AGAIN!
More tabloid rag crap from the sphincters at CNN.
An article that repeatedly called women's brains simple and men's complex would never see the light of day.
My fetish involves wheelchair-bound grannies in cheerleader outfits. That's pretty common though, right?
slowly inflating balloons
depends... do they have a slice of bologna on their heads?
Yes, men can be turned on physically much easier than women. We all are aware of that.
But once again- most likely because this was written by a female, we read that men are ...."simple-simple-simple". What exactly is "simple" about fetishism?Absolutely nothing-it's an endless world of theater that stretches in absolutely every direction that the human psyche can go.
Formulaically asserting that you are "complex", does not simply make your opinion valid. What is true- more often than not- is that you oversimplify men to validate yourself, and to assert that your desires, needs, and feelings should always take precedence over his.
Both authors are male.
Well said, Dan. I don't know about fetishes, but overall I think you're right on. This post was done by a woman and it most certainly had the flavor of a woman who was attempting to validate her own beliefs by accepting and reifying, in print, age-old stereotypes. Frankly...yuk.
WAIT, they have p o r n on the internet?! No way!
What's p o r n?
we already know what turns women on. they're called CREDIT CARDS
LMFAO!!! LOL! LOL! LO!!!!!!!! How true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ops, I got a semi ... I guess because I'm physically turned on, I must be psychologically turned on. What crap!
Oh, please, do we have to read more of this simplistic, reductive, half-baked pseudo-science on what comedy writer Preston Sturges summed up to be "Subject A"? The analogies in this article are weak and can be replaced by countless others with at least as much merit. We're frequently handed comparisons from scientists to what's spelled s-e-you-know-what, each of them promising to be definitive, a lock on underlying cause. There will never be an end to these, like puns we constantly make on words to load them with suggestions and double entendres. They are all inventions they will never run out. Every time I read a researcher in all seriousness say "s– is like x" I want to send them straight to a Jerry Lewis film, the unsurpassed ridicule for analysing something as sweet, stupid, shifty and soulful as that thing our lovers do.
so why do men have to change?
I miss Valerie
"MAN: college cheerleaders; cheerleaders in Hawaii; pics of bikinis and girls; pretty girls in bikinis; girls suntanning in bikinis; college cheerleader pics in bikinis; noooooooo; christian advice on lust"
This guy should never be put in charge of picking the women for the bachelor party. Need some one who had more girl on girl sites for that job, if you know what I mean and you do if you been at the same bachelor parties I have.
yawn
"The "detective agency" would make sure that the chosen male would not be cruel, unfaithful or sneaky, would protect the woman and her child."
Funny considering how such a high percentage tend to preferentially flock around the "bad-boy", jerk,y known cheater-players while wrinkling their noses at guys described as "nice" or "trustworthy" and so many are into silly games and if the guy shows too much actual real interest they run or get bored. Is it any wonder they always complain about how guys are such jerks when that is the type they go after the most and when they, ironically, tend to label the guys who I know are NOT jerks as the jerks and the jerks as awesome guys. One hint, if you see a guy treating most other guys like crap but he treat you like a queen he isn't actually in it to care for you and if you see a guy always there for you and trying to be nice don't take that as he is just sucking up to get some because he is probably more actually into you than the other guy.
The date of the study goes unmentioned, but the search histories suggest it stretched from 2001-2005 (and/or beyond). Any AOL user 2001 and beyond is either a grandparent or terrified of change, neither of which can be called "average" when it comes to arousal. A greater majority of women may very well need fantasy to become aroused, but using AOL search histories to conclude that completely invalidates it.
theres a accountable shortage of chemical exchanges and nerve responses due to depleation of cortisol (synthetically known as cortizone)inourcellular energy field-slow down and breath deep also aquainting yourself with phisics is releif.
aol is still out there? lol @aol
The article reiterates common sense facts that a lot of us already know. Women are complex and men are simple when it comes to bedroom needs.
Is there a neurobiological reason for that?
I get the bird's eye view..NOW can we have some details!
"There are three things that are never satisfied;one that never says enough." "Women love to love me,alot."
why didn't they use google, which given its popularity and size would be a more accurate view of behavioral norms on the internet . . . instead of aol which i haven't heard about in decades, . . literally
Learn to read: Post by: Elizabeth Landau – CNN.com Health Writer/Producer
I'm pretty sure Elizabeth is a female – you intellects! And yeah, the 'authors' are electrical engineers. NOT neuroscientists...
Men populate the world by spreading their seed, and they've been successful in doing it. Women are the vessels for our seed. If women are tolerable, we stay with them and are happy. When they begin to get intolerable and neurotic and controlling, we start looking around and bone their best friend, sister, coworker, boss, or enemy who happens to be hot. It takes two to tango and women come around like the city bus; there's a new one every 15 minutes.
Once again it appears that CNN is trying to push political correctness as fact. This study more than appears to be coming from a slanted viewpoint as opposed to an objective one. Having worked around Hotels in Hawaii we see many women flocking to very good looking men here in Hawaii and the same ones seem to have no problem getting a lot of tourists to spend time with them.
Also, this whole notion that it is because they want to feel desired. Sure I think that is true of many married women, but these same men have to put very little effort to have female company and they are not necessarily spending time trying to make the women feel desired. I guess it hurts to admit that sometimes a woman will be attracted to a man for nothing but physical reasons. In that way maybe men and women sometimes aren't so different, but that wouldn't be keeping with our preconceived notions.
This article makes me angry, women are too damn confusing!
The author, Elizabeth Landau, clearly went through a bitter divorce. That's not how my brain works. Women are poor judges of character, which is why they have to play all those silly games to figure a guy out.
The author clearly went through a bitter divorce. That's not how my brain works. Women are simply poor judges of character, which is why they play all those silly games to figure a guy out.
You cannot classify men or women into one category. There are just as many simple women as there are simple men, but that's not a bad thing. Things get complicated when people start calling themselves "complex"- subconsciously implying emotional baggage, scars, are unrealistic ideals. I would much rather be simple and live an easy life than be overly complex and too focused on my self to realize the beauty in everybody.