Routine HPV vaccine for boys urged
February 1st, 2011
12:01 AM ET

Routine HPV vaccine for boys urged

Boys aged 9-18 may receive the human papillomavirus vaccine as part of their routine vaccines, according to  the American Academy of Pediatrics' 2011 schedule of recommended vaccines for immunizations for children and teens.

Routine vaccinations are recommended to prevent 17 vaccine-preventable diseases that occur in infants, children, adolescents or adults. The new schedules and guidance for teens and children includes the following changes:

Hepatitis B vaccine: Hepatitis B is an infection of the liver, caused by a virus that can be spread through contact with blood or body fluids. Most children receive the vaccine at birth. For those who didn’t, a minimum age of no earlier than 24 weeks of age for the final dose has been added to the catch-up schedule.

For more information on childhood and adolescent vaccines, go to the AAP site.

PCV13 vaccine: Pneumococcal disease is a bacterial infection that gets into the lungs, causing the most common kind of bacterial pneumonia and can result in hospitalization and even death. The PCV7 vaccine has been replaced by the PCV13 vaccine. The new guidance explains which children should receive a supplemental dose of PCV13, including the timing and age for supplemental doses.

2010 – 2011 Influenza vaccines: Changes include guidance for whether to administer one or two doses of influenza, based upon whether the child has received the 2009 H1N1 vaccine, and when he or she received the vaccine. The seasonal influenza vaccine for 2010-2011 contains both seasonal influenza and H1N1 vaccines.

MCV4 vaccines: The MCV4 vaccine protects against meningococcal disease, which is a serious bacterial illness that can cause an infection of the fluid surrounding the brain and spinal cord. Meningococcal disease also causes blood infections. ACIP recommends routine vaccination with one dose of MCV4 for all children aged 11 to 18 years. The new guidance recommends a booster dose for children who have received the vaccine, including when the booster should be administered. It also offers guidance for people aged 2 to 54 years of age who are at increased risk for meningococcal disease.

Pertussis vaccines: Pertussis, more commonly known as whooping cough, is a highly contagious respiratory illness that can become very serious especially among infants. In response to national increases of pertussis, the ACIP offered more guidance on catch-up and immunization guidance for children aged 7 to 10, for the Tdap vaccine.

Hib vaccine: The Hib (haemophilus influenzae type b) vaccine is recommended for children under 5 years old in the United States and prevents meningitis, pneumonia, epiglottitis (a severe throat infection), and other serious infections caused by the bacteria. New guidance suggests one dose of the vaccine be considered for people age 5 or older if they have sickle cell disease, leukemia, HIV infection or who have had a splenectomy.

HPV vaccine: The HPV vaccine protects against human papillomavirus, a common virus spread through sexual contact. There are nearly 40 types of HPV and some can cause cervical cancer in women and genital warts in both men and women. Guidance recommends HPV4 and HPV2 vaccines for prevention of cervical cancers in females, and HPV4 for preventing genital warts in females. New guidance is that HPV4 may be administered to males age 9-18 to reduce their likelihood of contracting genital warts, which is often has no symptoms when contracted.

Every three to five years CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) updates vaccine recommendations, which cover topics such as spacing and timing of vaccines, vaccine administration, and vaccine storage and handling. ACIP adds new topics when they decide that previous statements on general issues, such as combination vaccines, adolescent vaccination, or adult vaccination should be revised, based “not only on available scientific evidence but also on expertise that comes directly from a diverse group of health-care providers and public health officials,” according to the CDC site.

The recommendations appear in the February issue of Pediatrics and are approved by the AAP, the American Academy of Family Physicians, and the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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  1. Tiny Hope

    Great! More tobacco science trying to push poisons into your body instead of promoting heathy living. By the way isn't the HPV vaccine for cervical cancer? Boys do not have a cervix! Also, read the package insert and find out that this HPV vaccibe does not protect from cervical cancer at all! However, if you already have the human papillomavirus then it will accelerate the disease! Wake up people. Only if this post would actually make it onto this website!

    February 1, 2011 at 09:45 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Spud

      Don't foreget the part about how we faked the lunar landing, JFK was assasinated by the FBI and 9/11 was carried out by are own government. And don't even get me started on the whole holocaust that never really happened....

      February 1, 2011 at 10:02 | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Reading comprehension fail. As clearly stated in TFA, HPV vaccine protects against HPV, which can cause cervical cancer in women and genital warts in men and women. Your tinfoil hat must have slipped over your eyes.

      February 1, 2011 at 10:12 | Report abuse |
    • Gaunt

      "Boys dont have a cervix!"
      There is nothing more depressing than a stupid person trying to seem clever. My God you are right, boys dont have a cervix! You have stumbled on a medical truth which somehow evaded all the doctors and scientists who have researched, developed and tested this serum! If only they had YOUR ineffable wisdom!

      Or maybe, just MAYBE there is more to it than that?

      February 1, 2011 at 10:21 | Report abuse |
    • Kevin

      Males carry HPV and transmit it to females who have a cervix. Understand why the vaccine is important now?

      February 1, 2011 at 10:22 | Report abuse |
    • Larry Lupus

      Back in your cave troll. You'll be safe there.

      February 1, 2011 at 10:26 | Report abuse |
    • uhuhreally

      The HPV vaccine is for the Human Papolomal Virus (sp?) which causes genital warts, and can lead to cervical cancer in women. Do you want boys to get, cary, and spread genital warts? Is your brain just as tiny as your name?

      February 1, 2011 at 10:51 | Report abuse |
    • @Kevin

      yours was the most intelligent comment in this thread

      February 1, 2011 at 11:20 | Report abuse |
    • Tiny Hope

      Ok you people that like to attack the messenger. How many of you have watched the video of Dr. Maurice Hilleman chief of the vaccine division from Merck clearly stating the SV40 was introduced and given to many humans from their vaccines? Anyone here? No I did not think so. Tin foil hats? I think you people that love the vaccines so much should go out and take as many as you can. Also, how many of you that love to attack the messenger actually have had a loved one injured from a vaccine? Sorry but I'm sure most of you are too bust wathing the tele. As for you Spud... You are the epitome of ignorance!

      February 1, 2011 at 11:47 | Report abuse |
    • NoToHPV

      Tiny Hope is not a tinfoil-wearing wacko as you people seem to think. HPV vaccine is not effective if a girl/woman has already been exposed to HPV, and if she has, may actually make the virus worse. The vaccine has NOT been proven to be effective at all. And do you know that even IF a girl is exposed to the virus, that it typically clears up itself within 1 year WITHOUT ANY MEDICAL INTERVENTION? Also, vaccines typically include thimerisol and formaldehyde along with other neurotoxins, DNA from diseased animals and some even use aborted fetal tissue. But hey, if you want to believe the propaganda surrounding vaccines, that is your right. You just might want to do some research before you blindly follow the guidelines of Big Pharma and your doctor. After all, your doctor is NOT God, he does NOT know everything, and you have EVERY right to question what is being injected into your bloodstream and that of your children. To debunk Dr. Oz, there may be more mercury in fish than in vaccines, but we are not injecting fish into our bloodstream. Since fish is digested, the liver does it's job and neutralizes those toxins; however, vaccines bypass the liver, so those toxins remain and thereby infect your body, your brain and your health. One more question.... for you ladies over the age of 30, had you EVER heard of HPV BEFORE Big Pharma deveoped this new vaccine? I've been seeing my gyno for 30 years and not once was HPV or its link to cervical cancer mentioned... UNTIL Gardisil came out. All of a sudden it's a "serious health concern" and I should have my 11YO daughter vaccinated. Thanks, but NO thanks.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:53 | Report abuse |
    • Really, Ray?

      That's why it is a vaccine. You get it before you contract the virus. That's why they are referred to as immunizations, not cures.

      February 1, 2011 at 12:00 | Report abuse |
    • CMH

      Umm, @NoToHPV it is your personal choice to deny your daughter the HPV vaccine. My personal choice would be to get a new 'Gyno' if they had never mentioned the link between HPV and Cervical Cancer to me. I'm guessing your 'gyno' is old school – as in 'I went to school 40 years ago why do I need to keep up on all that new fangled medicine?'

      I'm not a doctor or medical worker and I'm pretty sure I heard about the link between HPV and cervical cancer back in the 90's.

      Perhaps having a wave of polio go thru town might 'cure' people of their anti-vaccine mentality.

      February 1, 2011 at 12:23 | Report abuse |
    • gdnght10

      You're absolutely right Tiny...Love seeing all the Big Pharma worship though..really encouraging. Just go to Walgreens, get your monkey sperm shot for sniffles, and back to the alter of our God Merck. I'll put my tin hat back on. Wait, I can't, I'm too sick. I think I it's my fibromyalgia and Swine flu.

      February 1, 2011 at 12:44 | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      I cannot believe the misinformation being spread..

      The link between HPV & cervical cancer is established. In medicine, we don't know everything detail about each disease process – that's why there's research. When the pathogenesis of a disease is discovered, treatment & prevention guidelines change. Some of you sound like you'd rather treatment & guidelines remain outdated.

      Vaccines no longer include thimerosal. And to those who think eating your mercury & heavy metals is safer than injecting them, think again – both routes will result in organ deposition.

      Yikes. I'd almost have to agree with Margot, but still think it's a good idea to have a discussion.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:32 | Report abuse |
    • Guitarzan_1971

      No boys do not have a cervix and cannot get cervical cancer but HPV might also contribute to prostate or colon/rectal cancer as well. Furthermore boys can spread the virus and cause un-immunized females to get the cancers as well

      February 1, 2011 at 13:46 | Report abuse |
    • Richard

      HPV is for cervical cancer but has recently been approved for anal cancer. Giving males a vaccine that will prevent the spread of a virus that could lead to death in there wife of girlfriends makes sense!!! In medicine you learn that you inoculate the heard not just the individual. I personally think people paranoid about receiving vaccines need to seek mental help or maybe just educate themselves.

      February 1, 2011 at 14:53 | Report abuse |
    • LittleMissS

      Actually, it's boys/men that spread the HPV virus, not women. As a result, women contract it and it can morph into cervical cancer if left untreated. Vaccinating both men and women is a smart idea.

      February 1, 2011 at 15:09 | Report abuse |
    • LittleMissS

      @NoToHPV – yes, I heard of HPV when I got it, at age 22, from a GUY. I would have gladly had a vaccine if it had been available then to possibly avoid the physical pain of freezing part of my cervix and the humiliation I endured.

      February 1, 2011 at 15:18 | Report abuse |
    • jon

      How do you think girls get HPV, which causes most cases of cervical cancer? If you vaccinate the girls and not the guys we will create new stronger strains of HPV making the current vaccine obsolete.

      February 1, 2011 at 15:36 | Report abuse |
    • holly nelsen

      do you think these girls are giving this to themselves. they are carriers for this disease, you idiot.

      February 1, 2011 at 16:15 | Report abuse |
    • jim d.

      i never looked but i'm pretty sure boy george has a cervix.....

      February 1, 2011 at 19:32 | Report abuse |
    • dre

      true, boys don't have cervix. but the problem is they can pass it to females and then the females can get cervical cancer. and don't forget there are males who have intimate relationships with males..and hpv happens to b an increasing problem causing anal cancer.

      August 25, 2011 at 15:44 | Report abuse |
  2. David Anderson

    Vaccines ARE causing a holocaust of the born. My neurologically damaged, auto-immune diseased 7 year old son exhibits all the KNOWN, PUBLISHED side effects of vaccines and yet has been shut out from medicine by both doctors and insurance companies. The same people who told you your Vioxx was perfectly safe are the same people selling you the tripe that vaccines do not cause neurological disease. THEY. DO.

    February 1, 2011 at 09:54 | Report abuse | Reply
    • DrFood

      I have trouble sleeping. Isn't that a side effect of some vaccine? Should I be scared? Please tell me, random Internet person!

      February 1, 2011 at 10:09 | Report abuse |
    • AvgCitizen

      I'm sure your son loves being referred to as a "neurologically damaged, auto-immune diseased 7 year old".

      February 1, 2011 at 10:35 | Report abuse |
    • David Anderson

      @avg citizen. Yes. That's how I call him to the table. In Sign Language, which I spent two years learning to give him a language that Speech Therapists couldn't.

      February 1, 2011 at 10:43 | Report abuse |
    • KJG

      We take for granted that our kids will not get seriously ill and will live to be adults all because of vaccines.
      Without the immunity and group immunity from many diseases, you probably wouldn't have a son to call to the dinner table in any form what-so-ever. We forget that not even a century ago, children died on a regular basis from illnesses such as pertussis, measles, rubella, small pox, and many others. Vaccines may not be perfect, but when the alternative is the chance that you could loose your kid to illness in just a few days at the drop of a hat, it's a risk worth taking.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:02 | Report abuse |
    • David Anderson

      @KG, you're very familiar with the rhetoric of vaccine defenders, but you are repeating the exaggerations of those who make the majority of their profits off of vaccines. We are disease-phobic as a culture. But if you could for an hour walk in my shoes, you or ANYONE (I was like all of you once) would rather run the risk of just allowing those viruses to run their course, running even then an even slighter, truly meager risk of actual death, than see the prison which irrevocably encloses my son and squeezes him tighter with every passing year. I do not want to be told, "too bad." I want the right to make such a choice with my children. I want the right to live as naturally as possible. I want the rights of my son, who gets none, simply because he and these 1 in 100 children like him are the smoking gun in this cultural ground war. The same people who said your V.i.o.x.x is safe are telling you it's safe to pump infants full of altered viruses, metals, foreign tissues, trans-proteins... They pin us in a corner because we are the evidence: a great pile of bodies under the lie.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:19 | Report abuse |
    • JOHN

      Yes, there are side effects to some vaccines in some people. Some people are allergic to penicillin. However, to simply dismiss the use of medical treatments because some people cannot benefit from them is not very prudent. Before the arrival of vaccines and antibiotics, millions of people died from now preventable disease and treatable infection. Ironically, some of those ancestors of the unfortunate individuals who are allergic to a vaccine or antibiotic might have died had these treatments not been invented.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:33 | Report abuse |
    • A scientist

      It always fascinates me that people use examples like Vioxx to prove that we should not trust doctor's recommendations (in this case the recommendations of the American Academy of Pediatrics). It seems to me that the exact opposite is true - Vioxx demonstrates how well the system works, and that dangerous drugs are quickly detected and removed from the market.

      Vioxx was put on the market in 1999, after a series of studies demonstrated its effectiveness. It turns out that serious side effects were either missed or covered up (there is solid evidence suggesting the latter). However, these side effects were discovered by other scientists, and Vioxx was removed from the market just 5 years after it was introduced.

      In other words, although it is possible for sketchy industry-funded science to allow a drug to briefly slip into the market, there are enough independent scientists studying these things that the truth tends to come out pretty quickly. Vaccines have been used for many decades, and have been carefully studied by hundreds of independent scientists. If they were half as bad as the anti-vaccine people suggest, it would have been detected, and they would have been removed from the market (like Vioxx) years ago.

      February 1, 2011 at 12:16 | Report abuse |
    • Michelle

      David I completely understand where you are coming from!! I walk in your shoes EVERYDAY!!! My little boy was perfectly healthy normal little toddler then he was vaccinated. Now he has 20-100 seizures per DAY, he's blind and is in a wheelchair!! And yes, he has lost all his communications skills as well!!! So everyone don't agrue until you have walked a day or even a half day in OUR shoes!!!!

      February 1, 2011 at 16:13 | Report abuse |
    • holly nelsen

      that's a great contributer of natural selection.

      February 1, 2011 at 16:16 | Report abuse |
    • JMW

      @A Scientist – The system DOESN'T work. What is the FDA set up to do? Regulate drugs BEFORE they are put on the market. That rarely happens anymore. All the drug companies care about is selling more drugs and maximizing profits. In a normal business, this would be fine. But the drug industry's "product" is directly related to the public health of this country. People use Vioxx as an example because it's the perfect example. And if you think that it's not still going on, then you should do some better research. It's gotten to a point now where Big Pharma is basically using the general public as human guinea pigs because most drugs are put on the market as soon as possible to generate profits without being thoroughly tested. And a lot of dangerous facts about some drugs deliberately kept hidden or manipulated in some sort of positive way, meanwhile known facts about the health benefits of natural foods that have been known for centuries are being actively suppressed because it competes with the drug industry's profits. Do some research. This is going on right now.

      February 1, 2011 at 17:25 | Report abuse |
    • A scientist

      JMW: You post is typical of these comment boards - angry, yet completely missing the point.

      Obviously, in a perfect world the FDA would detect all potential side effects before drugs enter the market. However, occasionally side effects will be missed (either because they were just not noticed or because of deception). The nice thing about the current system is that even in the rare cases where something slips through, there are mechanisms to react quickly and withdraw the drug.

      This is what I meant with the system working for Vioxx. Of course it would have been better if the problems were detected before the drug went on the market, but the point is that the system in place allowed the problems to be rapidly detected and reacted to. If the worst case scenario that people keep bringing up is a drug that was removed within 5 years of entering the market, that seems pretty good. And again, with the vaccine discussion, vaccines have been widely used for more than 50 years; so, the Vioxx example suggests that if there were problems with vaccines similar to those with Vioxx, they would have been noticed decades ago.

      As for your comment that regulation of drugs before they are put on the market "rarely happens anymore," clearly this demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about. All drugs go through extensive testing. The vast, vast majority are rejected at various stages along the way.

      February 1, 2011 at 19:51 | Report abuse |
    • M

      My "neurologically damaged, quadriplegic" uncle would have a lot to say to you if he could speak. He was paralyzed as a child by polio. Vaccines save lives and prevent tragedy, like his, everyday. It's too bad most of us don't have any concept of what life was like before vaccines were available and children were at the mercy of deadly viruses and bacteria. I'm truly sorry your child has suffered, but you provide no true evidence that the vaccine was responsible. There are many neurological conditions that begin affecting children at a young age (same time that we generally give vaccines) so it is easy to pick the "shot" as an easy target to blame, however most of these conditions were described as occurring in kids before vaccines were ever invented. It is terrifying to me that misinformed anti-vacc zealots, like yourself, may convince people to leave their children unvaccinated and needlessly expose themselves and others to these same, old, diseases. That is the opposite of progress.

      February 2, 2011 at 07:49 | Report abuse |
  3. radgirl

    There is growing evidence that HPV also is related to cancers of the head and neck and also the anus.

    February 1, 2011 at 10:03 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Morokolli

      Hah! You said "anus"...

      February 1, 2011 at 15:14 | Report abuse |
    • Pink Dolphins are Beautiful

      Some people need to grow up around here.

      February 2, 2011 at 05:13 | Report abuse |
  4. Gaunt

    Pity there is no vaccine for stupidity. Vaccines prevent diseases. lethal, contagious diseases that not so long ago, killed and crippled millions of children every year. Ask your grandparents how many kids they knew who died young before standardised vaccinations.

    Of course, since every society has its morons, there will always be those who claim that vaccines are dangerous, that they are unsafe, that they cause all sorts of made up things... yes test after test after test demonstrates that vaccines do NOT cause autism or most of the wingnut illness ascribed to them, and those few side effects they do have are insanely rare and managable: far FAR rarer than the diseases they prevent.

    Now, rare or not, there will eventually be someone whose child suffered adverse effects from vaccines, it a statistical certainty. To them I say, you have my sympathy, but you are a victim of math. One child in 10 million suffers with vaccines, so that 1 child in 10 doesnt die of the diseases they prevent.

    February 1, 2011 at 10:18 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ray

      Ok, vaccines prevent disease so where is the science? I urge you do do some reading on research about the flu vaccine that is coming from countries that actually evaluate the effectiveness of vaccines. I also urge you to re-read this article. As mentioned, there are over 40 types of HPV and the vaccine. The HPV4 being recommended for boys works for only ONE type of HPV. The article also states that the HPV4 vaccine will "reduce their likelihood of contracting genital warts". What percentage of genital warts are caused by HPV4? What is the effectiveness of the HPV4 vaccine against HPV4?

      So now the math gets shifted a bit doesn't it? Your math also includes only those adverse effects that can easily be tied to vaccines. Data coming in from other countries is starting to paint a very negative picture of the long term effects on the immune system caused by the flu vaccine. Of course the long term effects of other vaccines is difficult to gauge because the vaccines are quickly added to the vaccine regiment leaving a very small group of people as a control population.

      As a side note, those who had the swine flu are now found to have what they are calling super immunity against a wide range of flu viruses. This does not occur in those who received the flu vaccination. In fact a Canadian study found those who were vaccinated for the seasonal flu in the previous year were more likely to contract flu the following year.

      February 1, 2011 at 10:52 | Report abuse |
    • JC

      I urge you to do your research HPV4 is a vaccine covers FOUR strains of the virus; 2 of the most common strains that lead to cervical cancer and 2 of the most common strains that cause genital warts. Thereby helping to prevent genital warts in males as well as passing on the virus to females where it can cause cervical cancer. While HPV2 covers 2 strains of the virus.

      February 1, 2011 at 10:58 | Report abuse |
    • charles s

      "Ray – Ok, vaccines prevent disease so where is the science?"

      Look around you, do you know anyone who has had polio? I remember before the polio vaccine was first given and people would get polio. I know two people who had polio and it affects them to this day. Did you know that a President of the US had polio? Did you know that President Lincoln's son died of diptheria? Vaccines has done more to prolong human life than almost anything.

      The only thing that come close is the water system in modern countries. A few hundred years ago, just having clean drinking water was almost impossible to find in the city. Safe drinking water is hard to find in many countries. I had a friend who was visiting India and came in contact with contaminated food and it almost killed him.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:28 | Report abuse |
    • Gaunt

      Where is the science?

      OK, ask arounjd. talk to your friends. Find out how many of them, exactly, have died or been horribly disfigured by smallpox. Go ahead ask.

      And yet, in the late 1700s, smallpox was killing about 0.5% of the human population EVERY SINGLE YEAR, and disfiguring and rendering sterile upwards of 3%.

      So answer me this genius, what happened to smallpox between then and now? Then repeat the same experiment with Polio, Pertussis, Rubella, german measles, Diptheria, and many more.

      Then ask me 'where is the science'..

      February 1, 2011 at 11:35 | Report abuse |
    • TV

      HPV is NOT a panademic!

      It does not warrant mass vaccinations! Education and regular check-ups are saving more lives than the vaccines because they prevent so many other STD and do not provide a false sense of security (similar to airport security)

      The number of women that develop cervical cancer from those 2 two particular strains is not known but the total number of women that dye every year in US is 3600.


      "Fortunately, more than 90% of this type of cancer is curable if the disease is detected and treated early enough. Routine exams such as Pap smears can greatly reduce your risks of contracting and dying from cervical cancer."

      February 1, 2011 at 12:28 | Report abuse |
  5. Really, Ray?

    There are no facts in your post. You don't give any numbers, but you talk about math being shifted. You also do not offer any actual statistics or give the name of any of the countries you refer to. It really should not be a surprise to anyone that your immune system responds to the flu and creates antibodies, or what you call "super immunity," which is not a new concept.

    Did you bother to read anything else about the Canadian study? For example, most people who opt to get the flu vaccine do so because their job or daily routine frequently puts them at a higher risk to contract the flu.

    Finally, getting back to the article about the HPV vaccine. What exactly is your issue with it? You do not state it.

    February 1, 2011 at 11:11 | Report abuse | Reply
  6. Kelly Dunham

    I love the "vaccines prevent disease" statement that gets thrown around by mainstream America. These are the same people who have no clue to what vaccines do to a body, the ingredients listed within or even do so much as read a package insert – all of which state "this vaccine is not guaranteed to prevent or cure the disease for which it is intended". Side effects include (but are not limited to): blah blah blah, neurological disorders, including Guillain-Barre syndrome and death.
    I'm sorry, but I'll take the chicken pox for $200, Alex. As well as the HPV – which is already in most of us, and the chances that it will cause cervical cancer are about 1 in 1,000,000; far less than your chances of developing a neurological disease and or – death – from receiving this vaccine. All you have to do is the research.
    You are completely naive and blindly following a huge corporation (several, in fact) who do NOT have your health in mind, only money. It's ALL about the money. Unfortunately, until people wake up and start seeing what is truly going on with this, they will continue with their "sacrifice the virgin in the volcano to deter the gods' anger!" beliefs. Same premise. Blanket statement.. and the people willingly follow.

    February 1, 2011 at 11:12 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Gaunt

      More idiocy. So you will 'take' chicken pox? Good for you, as nobody is vaccinating kids against chickenpox. FAIL number one. Will you also 'take' polio, Rubella, Pertussis, or the other host of diseases which used to KILL or cripple chidren at a staggering rate? I mean seriously, when people go off on this mindless nut-job conspiracy theories I often wonder if the safest thing for their kids would be to remove them from the care of deeply stupid parents.

      Vaccines are not guarenteed because they depend on the effectiveness of your immune system. However after immunisation, the deseases are prevented in the vast majority of cases, and in those exceptions the disease is FAR less severe as the body already has an immune defence.

      How dare you accuse anyone else of being naive or 'blanket statements' and then scream out about how big bad evil corporations are just poisoning kids for money? What is 'truly going on' is that vaccination programs have reduced the incidence of the diseases in question by upwards of 99%. Ever wonder why you are not dead or disfigured of smallpox right now? Hey thats right, vaccines!

      Fine, dont vaccinate your kids. Then watch them get sick and die. But hey, the evil big bad corporations didnt get your money, so I guess you win, right?

      February 1, 2011 at 11:31 | Report abuse |
    • David Anderson

      Gaunt, you are mistaken. Chicken Pox is most certainly in the CDC vaccine schedule and schools are "requiring" it more and more. Varicella, or Chicken Pox, is given at 12 months.


      Hard to listen to a thing more you say when you begin with assumptions.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:42 | Report abuse |
    • gemini

      great post Kelly Dunham. Vaccines are a major money maker to corporations. Don't get me wrong, vaccines can be a wonderful, life saving device, but there is also major money involved. I don't think all of these vaccines are necessary, and people should be skeptical and do some research so they can make informed choices. Unfortunately, a lot of people still seem to put blind trust in doctors and big pharma.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:56 | Report abuse |
    • charles s

      The chances of getting cervical cancer is not 1 in a million. There was about 12,000 new case and about 4,000 deaths in 2010, see http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/types/cervical/ . Since only woman get cervical cancer, the odds are about 8 in a million per year.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:57 | Report abuse |
    • A scientist

      Kelly, your claim that "the chances that it [HPV] will cause cervical cancer are about 1 in 1,000,000" is staggeringly off. Your lifetime risk for cervical cancer is somewhere between 1 in 100 and 1 in 200 (depending on which source you cite), and 70% of cervical cancers are caused by two of the HPV strains vaccinated against. So your number is off by 10,000 fold.

      It is hard to take anything you say seriously when your argument is based on such stunningly incorrect facts. (Of course this happens on both sides. As noted by others, Gaunt's claim that no one vaccinates against chicken pox is equally absurb.)

      February 1, 2011 at 12:29 | Report abuse |
    • john

      Kelly, I'd put you in the volcano no matter how far removed from a virgin you are.

      February 1, 2011 at 18:43 | Report abuse |
  7. Gaunt

    To put it another way, saying vaccines are bad because of some incredibly rare side effects would be akin to saying that antibiotics are bad because of rare side effects, or surgury is bad because of rare surgical complications.

    Firstly, those side effects are exaggerated in frequency and severity, but even disregarding that, the point is that they are vastly, VASTLY better than the alternative. People who do not vaccinate their children because of asinine internet paranoia are simply bad parents. Period.

    February 1, 2011 at 11:38 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Anderson

      I have never known a parent more dedicated than I sir. I am confident that I put you to shame.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:43 | Report abuse |
    • Smythe

      1 in 100 is not rare, nor statistically insignificant, in a population the size of the U.S.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:46 | Report abuse |
    • A scientist

      Smythe: What are you referring to with your 1 in 100 risk? For the HPV vaccine, out of the first 26 million doses distributed, there were 15,000 reported adverse reactions, 93% of which were considered non-serious. So, the frequency of adverse reactions was 1 in 1700, and the risk of serious adverse reactions was 1 in 25,000.

      By contrast, a woman's lifetime risk for cervical cancer is about 1 in 150, and the lifetime risk of dying of cervical cancer is about 1 in 500.

      It makes the choice seem pretty clear, doesn't it?

      February 1, 2011 at 12:38 | Report abuse |
  8. Smythe

    The reason she will take "chicken pox" Gaunt, is precisely because there is no vaccine for it – instead it's allowed to run its natural course, with some parents even deliberately exposing their children to it so they can have it, develop a natural immunity and never worry about contracting it again (or as an adult, where it can be far more life-threatening).

    February 1, 2011 at 11:41 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Anderson



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    • Smythe

      I stand corrected – didn't realize that they had come up with a vaccination – I thought chicken pox was one of those things everybody got once and then never thought about again.

      February 1, 2011 at 11:49 | Report abuse |
    • Howie

      Chicken Pox is one of those things that you should get once, and never worry about again. Unfortunately Big Pharma has found another profit center. Now many schools "require" it. Despite the fact that the immunity from this vaccine only lasts about 20 years, and it is a potentially fatal disease for adults. I am an atheist, but I had to sign an affidavit saying that I was refusing this vaccine for my children on "religious" grounds. Clearly most vaccines have been a great benefit to mankind, no one can dispute the success of the Smallpox and Polio vaccines. Unfortunately we have gone too far in trusting the corporations that sell this stuff – now we buy without questioning and our children suffer as a result. Flu vaccine? You are crazy to put this stuff in your body. This one still is full of mercury and aluminum – known neuro-toxins, that and it doesn't seem to actually work for its intended purpose. MMR? all three are great, but does it really make sense to flood an infant's system with all three at once? Wouldn't it be safer to to space them out to allow recovery time and full understanding of potential side-effects? Despite the PR campaign, it has not been proven that vaccines have nothing to do with the autism epidemic. There may not be a direct causal link, but the combinations of environment, diet, genetics – mixed with the vaccine exposure -have never been explored. I'm not saying never vaccinate, just be informed before you do – otherwise you will have no one to blame but yourself for a life altering mistake.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:24 | Report abuse |
    • LEB

      @Howie - You make a good point. I had chicken pox as a kid in the 80s (long before the vaccine), but it would be good for today's parents to know that the vaccine does not guarantee lifetime immunity. That doesn't invalidate the value of the vaccine (I remember chicken pox as being MISERABLE and could do without the few little scars it left on my face), but if adults need to be re-vaccinated, it would be a good thing for both the parents and child to know.

      February 1, 2011 at 15:10 | Report abuse |
    • jon

      it also reduces your chance of getting shingles as an adult.

      February 1, 2011 at 15:43 | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Contrary to popular myth, once you get Chicken Pox, it is with you for LIFE. After a week, it will continue to stay under control of the immune system, but does remain in the nervous system fluids of the body. Under high levels of stress or if the immune system become supressed ( such as Cancer, Transplant, and AIDS Patients) Chicken Pox can flare up and appear. This is commonly called shingles.
      The purpose of the Vaccine is to build an immunity so you will never get it. The number of people who actually die of Chicken Pox and deal with the life long side effects far exceed the small number who have a vaccine complication.

      February 2, 2011 at 17:14 | Report abuse |
  9. SeanNJ

    For those of you arguing against vaccines, thank you for not vaccinating your children. With any luck, your genes will naturally be removed from the pool. Natural selection is the best!

    February 1, 2011 at 12:03 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Anderson

      And when we survive it, we'll be vindicated as having the genes fit for moving on, you heartless, failed person.

      February 1, 2011 at 12:11 | Report abuse |
    • SeanNJ

      Not heartless, just pragmatic.

      February 1, 2011 at 12:51 | Report abuse |
    • gdnght10

      I may not be against all vaccinations, but I am definitely against you. Reading these posts on CNN really does help me to understand how things like the Holocaust took place. How human beings can turn quickly to hate. Like for instance, if you are ever in line at a camp that I'm working at, I'll be smashing your skull with the butt of my rifle.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:02 | Report abuse |
    • SeanNJ

      Why the hostility? It's not me you gotta worry about...it's the bugs.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:05 | Report abuse |
    • David Anderson

      And for the fact that I have a child who will require every cent of my money and every joule of my energy for as long as I live, with two others to support, it is just as "pragmatic" of me to leave my second son unvaccinated, allowing come-what-may, to avert a future on a level with his brother. To suggest my children should die, and that you would be grateful for it, is failed humanity.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:11 | Report abuse |
    • gdnght10

      Yeah, you being one of them. Scurry along to Walgreens and get your dose of Avian egg sack and Raid.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:15 | Report abuse |
    • SeanNJ

      Oh, I'm not suggesting they *should* die. That's far out of my purview. I wouldn't be grateful either. As for my failed humanity, I'm sorry if I'm fresh out of moral outrage for your plight.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:31 | Report abuse |
    • KDW

      It is more likely that those who don't vaccinate their children will end up spreading infections to those who can't vaccinate their children. Such as infants who are to young for the vaccines or to immune compromised individuals who can't be vaccinated. This has already happened in California not that long ago.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:43 | Report abuse |
    • David Anderson

      70 – 80% of the California cases were in vaccinated individuals. Pertussis is contracted via bacteria, and we all know how well they are adapting to our attempts to kill them.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:54 | Report abuse |
    • David Anderson

      So you were crying on the inside when you wrote this?"

      "For those of you arguing against vaccines, thank you for not vaccinating your children. With any luck, your genes will naturally be removed from the pool. Natural selection is the best!"

      February 1, 2011 at 13:57 | Report abuse |
    • SeanNJ

      @David: At the risk of speaking for KDW, I believe he/she was referring to the San Diego measles outbreak, which was tracked and pretty well confined to unvaccinated children.

      And no, I wasn't crying on the inside. I actually chuckled, perhaps audibly. You can demonize me for my comment all you'd like. What I wrote, and your reaction to it, has no bearing on how things actually are. As I said...pragmatic.

      February 1, 2011 at 14:15 | Report abuse |
    • David Anderson

      Dizzying. Enjoy your bubble.

      February 1, 2011 at 14:30 | Report abuse |
    • KDW

      came back to check this thread. Yes I as referring to the measles outbreak. If I remember correctly, the unvaccinated child who was the vector for it brought it back with him and his family following a trip overseas (I think Europe). His entire school class had to be quarantined, at least one child died (an infant I think) and several other people were hospitalized due to complications from contracting measles.

      February 2, 2011 at 15:26 | Report abuse |
  10. Ohmi

    Vaccines no longer include thimerisol. There was a study that linked it to autism, however, more than half of the researchers on that study took their names off, recanted their work, called it bogus. They used bad science. That study was the only piece of evidence linking autism to vaccines, and it was not reliable science, should never have been published. However, thimerisol was still removed from vaccines in an attempt to assuage concerns. Obviously it did not work because still every day there is someone talking about something they are actually clueless about.

    February 1, 2011 at 12:07 | Report abuse | Reply
  11. Ohmi

    Great timing for this semi-informative article about his fraudulent data.


    February 1, 2011 at 12:15 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Anderson

      Great timing for this too.


      February 1, 2011 at 13:16 | Report abuse |
    • Kevin Oliphant

      naturalnews.com????? ahhhh hahaha, man, can we please have a requirement to cite scientific studies or at least reputable sources? You're probably the type that buys homeopathic medicine too (those companies are WORSE than big pharma, because they sell you "medicine" which has no active ingredients and does nothing for you).

      you might as well cite http://www.my-personal-science-opinion-website.net as your source... get it together.

      February 1, 2011 at 16:01 | Report abuse |
    • Valerie

      Kevin, do you really think that CNN is a more credible news source than Natural News? Since when is monetary compensation a better indicator of truth than personal conviction? CNN has known ties to drug companies (google Sanjay Gupta Gardisil) as well as relying heavily on pharmaceutical advertisement money to function.

      February 2, 2011 at 05:34 | Report abuse |
  12. Margot

    CNN, please hear me! Stop allowing people to comment on your stories. It brings out the worst in us. Really.

    February 1, 2011 at 12:34 | Report abuse | Reply
  13. tommas

    All this because parents can't accept their perfect little angels will VERY soon be F&%king like rabbits

    February 1, 2011 at 12:53 | Report abuse | Reply
  14. CT biologist

    After reading some of these comments I understand why the United States and many other countries science and math scores have dropped. Maybe some of you should read actually scientific journals that are peer reviewed than just spouting off whatever thoughts come into your head. Well in order to be able to read those "bogus science articles" you need a pretty advanced understanding of science and biology. Most people that spout off about poisonous vaccines, incorrect doctors and scientists, and their own twisted way biology works need to go back to high school biology...

    February 1, 2011 at 13:16 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Anderson

      My primer of high school biology, which I actually remember very well did just what you suggest: launched me into an education via published, peer-reviewed medical research. While I resisted the vaccine argument just like so many, I quite literally followed a path of data, DATA, into vaccine's lap. I actually have studied this. I greatly suspect you have not.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:25 | Report abuse |
    • Kevin Oliphant

      David, you clearly have not done what you have state you have done with any sort of objectivity.

      February 1, 2011 at 16:04 | Report abuse |
    • Kevin Oliphant


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  15. droll

    NoToHPV: You clearly don't understand how the human body works. The liver filters blood so if by your own logic the liver filters mercury from fish then it will also do it from a vaccine. In either way taking mercury is just stupid but that does not mean you should not take vaccines as they can easily me attained without mercury.

    February 1, 2011 at 13:23 | Report abuse | Reply
    • tiny hope

      How does your liver filter anything that is injected directly into your tissue? As for the above comment about peer reviewed... And just how do these peer reviewers get the funding they require for their reviews? Can you spell Big Pharma? Come on I know you can. If you have nothing produuctive to offer than just go back to sleep!

      February 1, 2011 at 13:27 | Report abuse |
    • Ohmi

      because, tiny hope. it goes into your blood. how is this complicated?

      February 1, 2011 at 13:36 | Report abuse |
    • A scientist

      tinyhope: A very small fraction of scientists are funded by pharmaceutical companies. I have served as a peer reviewer for many research articles, and have never received funding from "Big Pharma." The idea that somehow all scientists are working together in this vast conspiracy is absurd, and reflects a complete lack of understanding of how science works in this country. It also suggest a very low opinion of humanity, as your conspiracy would require that tens of thousands of scientists have made the decision that earning a quick buck from Big Pharma is worth sabotaging the health of our children.

      February 1, 2011 at 15:47 | Report abuse |
    • SeanNJ

      @A scientist: Thank you for being rational. The idea that the majority of mankind is out to profit at the expense of the detriment of others is absurd.

      February 1, 2011 at 20:53 | Report abuse |
  16. tiny hope

    GARDASIL has not been evaluated for the potential to cause carcinogenicity or genotoxicity.
    Sounds ok to me considering the ingredient list and the fact that it has not been evaluated for the above. Line up everyone for your sv40

    February 1, 2011 at 13:24 | Report abuse | Reply
    • A scientist

      Actually, any time a drug goes through clinical trials, they are testing for all adverse side effects (including cancer).

      February 1, 2011 at 15:49 | Report abuse |
    • Kevin Oliphant

      Gardasil has been evaluated – your spreading of misinformation could very well cause the death of someone. Please go look at pictures of people who have died from cervical cancer right and understand that you are contributing to someone having their fate.

      February 1, 2011 at 16:07 | Report abuse |
    • pazke

      TinyHope – do you listen to yourself? You don't even make any sense.

      February 2, 2011 at 23:32 | Report abuse |
  17. tiny hope

    No to all vaccines period! Any one here heard of Dr. Maurice Hilleman? I highly doubt it, but if you haven't maybe take a few minutes and look into this and SV 40. Ohterwise just keep posting here with little to no critical thought from your own research.

    February 1, 2011 at 13:29 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kevin Oliphant

      You are personally going to be responsible for at least one person dying. Please stop what you are doing, you aren't a scientist and you don't understand how science works in this country.

      February 1, 2011 at 16:08 | Report abuse |
  18. tiny hope

    Anyone here know of any studies done on unvaccinated children versus vaccinated children? If not, maybe it's time for a study to be done with unvaccinated against vaccinated for some true answers? I for one do not vaccinate my children and they are extremly healty compared to many of their vaccinated friends! Some of which have asthma so bad that they cannot skate from one end of the arena ice to the other without their puffer! Why is that? Oh just coincidence no doubt! Right vaccine lovers!

    February 1, 2011 at 13:38 | Report abuse | Reply
    • KDW

      There's this magical device called a computer and the internet. On it you can search for journal articles that cover the topics of interest. Sometimes you can't read the articles because you need to be a subscriber. Usually you can read the abstracts. If you would like to read the entire article there are these awesome places called libraries. A university library would be best. There you can use their subscription to most journals to read the whole article or you can request that they get an article sent to you from another library. Now that you know how it works let me answer your question.
      There have been studies looking at vaccinated and unvaccinated children. Most have found no differences in rates of autism. There was one done recently in Europe that found unvaccinated children were MORE LIKELY to have autism. The researchers theorized this could be due to the parents/doctors seeing signs of autism and choosing to not vaccinate. To your asthma question here are some article I found using google searching under scholarly articles. The gist of most of them was a link could not be found. The few that did find a link stated that there could be some bias due to sample size and that there were other variables that appeared to be more in play than vaccination status.

      February 1, 2011 at 14:01 | Report abuse |
  19. tiny hope

    Ohmi these needles are not sent directly into a vein. So its not really complicated. By the way you look up SV 40 yet? Probably not cause you already know everything there is to know about this topic! Back to sleep the lot of ya!

    February 1, 2011 at 13:40 | Report abuse | Reply
    • jon

      tiny hope please learn some physiology instead of telling people to learn about a virus. You have no idea what you are talking about and making yourself sound like a fool

      February 1, 2011 at 15:51 | Report abuse |
  20. tommas

    Small pox.... nuf said.. anyone who thinks all vaccines are bad should leave our species

    February 1, 2011 at 13:40 | Report abuse | Reply
    • tiny hope

      You 1st tommas! Anyone that takes disease filled syringe without checking the ingredients should leave our species 1st. Nuf said? I highly doubt that there has been enough said! Have you ever read a vaccine insert? If not maybe try 1 for a change. You got anything to say about SV40? Or you just spout about 1 illness?

      February 1, 2011 at 13:45 | Report abuse |
    • tommas

      haha, you do realize that I was talking about "all vaccines". There is nothing more ignorant than someone who speaks in absolutes.

      February 1, 2011 at 15:20 | Report abuse |
  21. tiny hope

    I'm waiting for your vaccine lovers to attack my messages, so where are you? Come on lets here some more drivell! 🙂

    February 1, 2011 at 13:41 | Report abuse | Reply
  22. Mich

    To Tiny Hope: Peer review of scientific research is done on a volunteer basis by scientists who have relevant expertise. I do it all the time, just got one to do this morning. I don't make a cent doing it. Nobody does. We do it because in order for science to work, it has to be done.

    February 1, 2011 at 13:47 | Report abuse | Reply
  23. tiny hope

    Mich you got any proof of that? Maybe send me a link so I can research your research. By the way what do you peer review? Also, why is it that there is a large population of dissent from many doctors, immunologists, pediatricians, etc against vaccinations. I mean there are 2 sides to this coin!

    February 1, 2011 at 13:49 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Mich

      Tiny Hope,
      I am only referring to your post speculating that peer review is funded by big pharma. I am a working scientist. I do research. I have reviewed manuscripts that have been submitted for peer review prior to publication. I have never received a cent for doing so. I have never heard of anyone receiving a cent for doing so. I am not in any way commenting on your views about vaccinations. However, I will point out an error in one of your earlier posts. Obviously, a male does not have a cervix. However, HPV-related cancers of the head and neck are becoming more common, or at least more commonly recognized. This is why vaccination is being recommended for boys.

      February 1, 2011 at 13:59 | Report abuse |
  24. tiny hope

    Sorry sheeple I'm done here as I'm not able to get some real discussion only I did this or tin fiol hat wearing comments. Have a nice day and I truly wish everyone here the best health even if you are a proponent of vaccines! I am not (obviously) as I was injured from one many years ago! That is why my passion for this is so strong. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone as that is my passion comming out and it is by no means meant to be personal. Thanks for all your comments and again best wishes to all... vaccinators or not!

    February 1, 2011 at 13:53 | Report abuse | Reply
  25. gil V

    Stop it! Stop It!
    Every day the FDA, CDC are getting the word out about another vaccine to be added. Are we really any healthier than we were 30 years ago. Hey, instead of trying to focus what next level of chemicals we can inject our kids with so the pharma companies and lobbyist can get want they want, why not invent a vaccine for lack of common sense, or maybe even Cancer or greed.

    I am not trying to be funny here, but don't you see the pattern. Will someone in our health profession Stand Up to this pattern of manipulation by the vaccine makers and government that response to them!

    February 1, 2011 at 14:10 | Report abuse | Reply
    • LEB

      Uh, yeah, we actually ARE a lot healthier than previous generations overall. Seen anyone around with polio lately? Oh, that's right, vaccines in childhood have pretty much eradicated the disease.

      February 1, 2011 at 15:04 | Report abuse |
    • A scientist

      Life expectancy in the US 30 years ago: 73.7
      Life expectancy now: 78.4

      Yes, I would say that even in the last 30 years, we have gotten healthier (and it is not just life expectancy; every measure I have seen of "healthy years" shows a similar increase). Is this all attributable to vaccines? Probably not, but there is no doubt that modern medicine has improved overall health.

      February 1, 2011 at 15:55 | Report abuse |
  26. gdnght10

    The quick answer to that is no. There is no money in it.

    February 1, 2011 at 14:57 | Report abuse | Reply
  27. chickyd

    Seriously you people need to look into things before drawing conclusions. I'm in the medical field and here's the lowdown. HPV high risk strains (there are many) is what increases a woman's risk for cervical cancer (some research suggests it is the cause of cancer). Once a woman has a strain of HPV they typically clear the virus (levels undetectable) in 2 years and develop antibodies against the strains that they had. HPV low risk is what causes genital warts, it's different from the high risk types as it isn't linked to cervical cancer. The vaccine that was developed is for only a few types of high risk and a few types of low risk HPV. There have been many reports of harm done by the vaccine in girls. These reports are in the form of problems with the neurological system (seizers, tremors, ect) that are figured to be permanent. The CDC has chosen to take a stand that there isn't a cause and effect scientifically established to pull the vaccine.
    As a member of the heath/scientific community I have chosen not to vaccinate myself, as the benefit doesn't outweigh the harm that can occur.
    Also, to the person who talked about polio. There have been 6 reported cases of children contracting polio from the polio vaccine, that's why the sugar platform was discontinued.
    I urge you all to do research, then come to your own conclusion.

    February 1, 2011 at 15:14 | Report abuse | Reply
  28. Godofredo29

    To the morons who did this story: Why is it so difficult to do just a little research? We (thousands of) men who have already received the HPV vaccine "off label" and out of pocket know that it prevents penile cancer, anal cancer, certain throat cancers as well as genital warts. That it also may help women avoid cervical cancer is just a plus. I cannot understand how someone like Elizabeth Cohen gets paid as much as she does for such spotty knowledge about important topics. Also, why do we men have to endure the constant bashing that accompanies an promotion of the HPV vaccine when we should already be receiving it as a matter of course. Is it just that Merck wants a big lawsuit down the line for all the lives lost because men didn't get to receive the vaccine? I dare Cohen or Gupta to respond to these questions on this website.

    February 1, 2011 at 15:38 | Report abuse | Reply
  29. Rocksor

    To the adults who advocate HPV vaccine,

    When was the last time you received this vaccine? Do you keep your immunization up-to-date (even flu vaccine)? If not, then you have no right telling parents who chose not to vaccinate their children

    February 1, 2011 at 16:10 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kevin Oliphant

      I just got the third round of this vaccine 4 months ago. Please stop spreading lies and misinformation – you are personally responsible for the women who get cancer due to this nonsense you are spreading.

      February 1, 2011 at 16:14 | Report abuse |
    • Rocksor

      @Kevin Oliphant

      Show me the lies and nonsense that I am spreading.

      February 1, 2011 at 16:55 | Report abuse |
  30. Keri

    When the HPV vaccine first came out there was a big, big push for women my age to get it. I made the decision not to, because of the very fast track that this particular vaccine was put on. I am now very glad I did not get it, because of the potential harm it could cause.

    Personally, I doubt that this vaccine will even be helpful because it was never tested in boys.

    February 1, 2011 at 16:54 | Report abuse | Reply
  31. Sarah

    This is all you need to know..

    India halts HPV vaccine trial after six girls die, US does nothing in response to 67 deaths and counting. Vaccines are a joke.

    February 1, 2011 at 17:25 | Report abuse | Reply
    • DrDoug

      26 million doses of the vaccine have been delivered in the US. Even if it caused 67 deaths (which is very speculative, as many of these deaths likely were from causes completely unrelated to the vaccine; after all, people die), that means that there has been about 1 death per 500,000 doses. Compare that to the lifetime risk of dying of HPV-induced cervical cancer, which is about 1 in 500 for women.

      That is the big picture point with vaccines - they can have side effects, but in most cases the side effects pale in comparison to the diseases that the vaccines prevent.

      February 1, 2011 at 20:02 | Report abuse |
    • A scientist

      It is unclear how many of the deaths that occurred shortly after vaccination were caused by the vaccine; however, even if we believe your number that all 67 deaths were caused by the vaccine, that is still only 17 deaths per year (the vaccine has been on the market for a little over 4 years). Contrast that with the more that 4000 deaths per year from cervical cancer in the US.

      No vaccine is perfect. Nor is any medicine or medical procedure - look up how many deaths each year are attributed to aspirin. However, an intelligent person weighs relative risks. In this case, would you prefer a vaccine that has something like a one in a million chance to kill you, or a disease that has a one in five hundred?

      And just be glad that you live in this era of modern medicine. In the 1720s, a precursor to modern vaccines (variolation) was introduced that conferred resistance to smallpox. 2.5% of people who got this treatment died. This seems terrible, but around the same time, a single outbreak of smallpox killed 10% of the population of Boston. So in this case, the treatment was terrible, but the alternative was even worse. Life isn't perfect; sometimes we need to choose between the lesser of two evils.

      February 2, 2011 at 11:45 | Report abuse |
  32. Annigirl

    What about the fact that HPV in men and women causes cancer to grow more slowly (seemingly a good thing, but not really – cancer still "seeds" the blood which carries the cancer cells through the body when the primary tumor is teeny tiny), meaning symptoms appear much later, causing a later diagnosis. An associate of mine is dying from head and neck cancer and his physician has told him that his undiagnosed HPV absolutely played a role in the late (Stage 4) diagnosis. By the time the cancer was detectable, he had tumors growing throughout his body. HPV is a killer – though indirectly – for men and women.

    February 2, 2011 at 15:48 | Report abuse | Reply
  33. jimhat

    wow, they are really pushing the adolescent vaccine thing since many don't want the 25 that are required for infants that much anymore. Amazing. So for Merck $400 a pop x 5 mil equal, well alot of money for big pharma.

    I guess when you do no research and take Dr.'s as all healing you end up in a bad cycle of drugs. No thanks, I'll always listen to my Mother (Nature) first.

    February 3, 2011 at 00:14 | Report abuse | Reply
  34. Dr. Rich

    I am a doctor and I DO NOT VACCINATE my kids, 9,7,3 and ALL completely healthy..now my friends, their kids are sick a lot, one has many seizures..maybe not related to vaccines..but could be. Stop talking about the mercury in or not in, what about the rest of the ingredients..?? There is so much garbage in a vaccine, that in no way would I inject that.
    If vaccines are SAFE? why does the government have a VACCINE INJURY COMPENSATION FUND?
    they are not safe and cause future problems..
    HPV vaccine is the most dangerous. NEVER get that or the flu shot...
    check out MERCOLA.com and NATURALNEWS.com and really decide..but I recommend HIGHLY NEVER to get them...

    February 6, 2011 at 10:04 | Report abuse | Reply
    • TravelDoc

      What kind of doctor are you, Dr. Rich? I find it VERY hard to believe that you are an American-trained MD. If you don't immunize your own children, what sort of things are you doing for/to your patients? I shudder to think. True, immunizing our young – girls and boys – is a VERY personal decision. BUT please, everyone, take emotion out of the decision process and get the facts! HPV can be spread via saliva (i.e. kissing, sharing eating utensils,etc). Immunization against HPV prevents (among other things) CANCER! In boys, men, women, and girls. Wake up Americans, and look at the realities of vaccinations: polio eliminated in the USA, deaths/blindness/deafness nearly eliminated with the near extinction of measles (except in those who refuse to vaccinate their children), and deaths d/t flu sharply decreased d/t/ seasonal flu immunization. There are hundreds of other examples. Just use your brain. Not your emotions.

      February 6, 2011 at 11:01 | Report abuse |
    • paynestudiostest

      Thanks for your comment. My daughter had a very bad reaction to the MMR vaccine as an infant. Had health problems ever since. Mostly didn't vaccinate my son...and he is much healthier. I am reading the new book: Vaccine Epidemic which takes on the legal and ethical issues as well as possible health issues of vaccines. Lots of contributors, very interesting. I highly recommend everyone who has posted here read it.

      February 27, 2011 at 11:24 | Report abuse |
  35. Sarah in Texas

    Unfortunately, as long as HPV remains a serious risk for women only (via cervical cancer), society will not adopt the importance of a male vaccination. It's a man's world, and women's diseases are women's problems.

    February 7, 2011 at 17:44 | Report abuse | Reply
  36. nicole

    Even If you have an S TD, you are not alone.Find others with same STD at site named STDRomance//. you may be upset and think your life is over. However, once you settle down and learn the facts, you'll realize that having STD is not the end of the world, and it's not the end of your social life.

    February 10, 2011 at 20:51 | Report abuse | Reply
  37. Pointer

    I've been recommending boys get vaccinated for HPV since the vaccine came out.

    Do you really think a disease evolved which only affects half the population? They're now finding HPV can cause cancers in boys as well as other cancers in girls.

    February 21, 2011 at 07:51 | Report abuse | Reply
  38. aacon

    Males carry HPV and transmit it to females who have a cervix. Understand why the vaccine is important now?Agreed. I don`t see why people don`t get this.Some are so hard headed they still will not get it after reading it.Again !!!

    February 23, 2011 at 12:26 | Report abuse | Reply
  39. HPV support

    Unfortunately NOTOHPV is incorrect and this is how uneducated individuals cause so much damage. A woman should not be denied the vaccine simply because her HPV test is positive. The test does not discern which type of HPV you have only that you may have one or more of the high risk types. This means you could be positive because of a strain NOT included in the vaccine and in denying the vaccine you are leaving that individual exposed to the two highest risk types for cancer.

    The vaccine is neither a live nor attenuated virus and it is impossible for the vaccine to make HPV worse. It is created from VLP's or virus like particles and not HPV itself. Spreading such misinformation is nothing short of irresonsible and ignorant.

    Since the FDA has approved Gardasil for boys, several insurance companies are denying payment including Humana and United Healthcare so if you have either of these carriers you might want to call and complain.

    If you would prefer to refuse the vaccine for your daughter that is obviously your choice. I sincerely hope she never ends up with HPV though statistics are that she will and when she does and has to deal with the horrific treatments involved and the physical, emotional and financial devastation it can cause, you may change your mind and wish you had protected her which, after all, is the responsibility of a parent.

    Make your decisions but at least do it with accurate information which obviously you do NOT have but have..

    March 5, 2011 at 02:33 | Report abuse | Reply
  40. Cancer Survivor

    The type of cancer I had is thought to be caused by tobacco use 80% of the time. Part of the remaining 20% seems to be related to HPV. I din't know if I'm infected with HPV, but maybe if a vaccine had been available way back when I was a boy maybe I could have avoided some painful treatment. I would have been glad to take my chances.

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  41. John Jasper


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