October 27th, 2010
06:06 PM ET

Whooping cough continues to climb in California

California is in the middle of the worst outbreak of whooping cough in 60 years.  According to the state health department, there are now 6,257 confirmed, probable and suspected cases of the disease. Ten people have died.

"Unfortunately and tragically we have had 10 deaths, all in infants under 2 years of age," said Dr. Kathleen Harriman, California Department of Public Health. Nine of the 10 infants were Hispanic and several had family members with "cough illness," according to Harriman.

Harriman was in Atlanta on Wednesday where the Center for Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) is in the first day of an annual tw0- day meeting. The panel makes recommendations on how to reduce vaccine-preventable diseases. ACIP also recommends when vaccines should be administered, how many doses should be given and at what interval. Harriman's advice to the committee–anyone that has not had Tdap–the pertussis vaccine–should have one.

The committee voted to recommend that teens receive the vaccine between 11 and 12 years of age. Those who have not had the vaccine or don't know their vaccine history should be immunized as soon as possible. Adults 19 to 64 years old should get a single dose of Tdap in place of the Td (tetanus and diphtheria toxoids) vaccine.

Whooping cough is a highly contagious disease that affects the respiratory system and causes uncontrollable, violent coughing. It gets its name because of the "whooping" sound the person makes when coughing and breathing in. While relatively rare in this country, there are still several thousand cases reported here in the United States each year.

The committee also voted on the meningococcal vaccine, recommending children be vaccinated between 11 and 12 years old, and given a booster shot at age 16 to protect against waning immunity. For teens vaccinated between the ages of 13 and 15, the booster would be given five years after the first dose until the age of 21.

Thursday the committee will look at human papillomavirus (HPV), influenza and rotavirus vaccines.

The recommendations from the CDC Advisory Committee go to the CDC director and the secretary of Health and Human Services for final consideration.

soundoff (236 Responses)
  1. stu

    OMG what a conspiracy. If God wants us sick we should be sick.

    October 27, 2010 at 19:59 | Report abuse | Reply
    • noodlezup

      Yeah, keep saying that when your baby looks to you for help as he or she struggles to breath.

      October 27, 2010 at 20:08 | Report abuse |
    • Clark1b

      He gave us abilities and skills ... and physicians too. Should we not use them?

      October 27, 2010 at 20:17 | Report abuse |
    • MS

      If your god let's kids die of preventable diseases then maybe he isn't worth worshiping.

      October 27, 2010 at 20:18 | Report abuse |
    • MartyT

      This is the 21st century, right? You know this is not the 17th century???? :0|

      October 27, 2010 at 20:23 | Report abuse |
    • profart

      He doesn't want us sick. That's why He gave us vaccines.

      October 27, 2010 at 21:30 | Report abuse |
    • s

      really? have you ever taken aspirin for a headache? have you ever taken an antibiotic? have YOU ever received a vaccine? have you ever had a cavity filled? you should just suffer with the headache, infection or cavity if that's God's will. get over youself. perhaps if you ever have diabetes, a heart issue, cancer or any other ailment you should sit idly bc that's what God wants. perhaps you should make an appt to get your head checked.

      October 27, 2010 at 21:31 | Report abuse |
    • UIUC14

      Calm down people. stu was being sarcastic.

      October 27, 2010 at 23:03 | Report abuse |
    • PinkUnicorn

      Im sure you are kidding. It is the mighty pink unicorn that wants you sick. Quit fighting his will with your silly science.

      October 27, 2010 at 23:19 | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Pertussis, commonly known as whooping cough, is a highly contagious disease caused by the bacterium Bordetella pertussis. It derives its name from the whooping sound made after the cough and the next attempt at gaining a new breath. First identified circa 1900, Pertussis was the leading cause of infant death, until a suitable vaccine was developed around 1925.The administration of the new vaccine, which requires booster shots as the child grows, all but eliminated Pertussis as a childhood disease.

      In the early eighties, the United States witnessed an increased incidence of autism, a neurological disorder that affects children around their second year of life, and it was widely attributed to the contemporary vaccination regimen, particularly due to the mercury based preservative Thiomersal. However, the organic mercury compound was removed from all infant vaccination s in the year 2000, yet the incidence of autism continues to rise.

      The vaccination protocol is to administer the shot with inactivated Diphtheria, another serious bacterial respiratory disease, Tetanus anti-toxin and the Pertussis agent, known as the DTaP vaccine. It is critical to note that most of the Pertussis is transmitted by the parents of the child, so adult immunization is critical to the children’s benefit as well as maintaining good population health (CDC, Pertussis, 2010)

      We as healthcare providers must inform our patients concerning the risks associated with the failure to immunize their children. The popular theory of herd immunity, where those without immunization are protected from contracting the disease by those that are immunized, only works if the herd group is sufficiently large enough to protect the smaller population. As we are seeing in California and Oregon, the herd concept is failing, as evidenced by the rise in Pertussis cases. Additionally, all children and adults must receive additional booster shots throughout their lifetimes (CDC, Tetanus,2010).
      It is unfortunate that so much misinformation is circulating concerning vaccinations and the alleged link to autism. One of the problems is that we live in a reactionary and somewhat of a knee jerk society. The media popularized a connection from the mercury based vaccine and autism back in the ninety’s, yet the hysteria continues to swirl around the life saving inject-able protocol.

      Vaccines are safe, necessary and required for most children to enter school at six years of age. There are two exceptions, based on either religious convictions or on moral grounds. Both of which must be documented and given to the school’s administration prior to admittance. It could also be construed as a form of state sanctioned child abuse, as it is based on pseudo-science and popular rhetoric.

      Protect your children, your relatives and the community. Get immunized and make certain that your children receive the proper vaccinations regimen prior to entering school. Morality suggests it; Population Health demands it. Ω

      October 28, 2010 at 01:39 | Report abuse |
    • regertz

      The autism link has been disproven in numerous studies but as a precaution (and largely to ease unwarrented fears) thimersol, previously used as a preservative, has been removed from vaccines. Sadly a lot of internet heresay has been floating, fueled by undocumented allegations of sinster intent by vaccine companies. The real truth is that it's been shameful how difficult it is to get the major pharmas to produce vaccines which are the cheapest and most effective form of treatment for many infectious diseases...They prefer to focus on expensive meds which produce much less benefit but are far more profitable. Of course no vaccine is 100% effective and no vaccine is 100% risk free...Some kids and adults are more sensitive and any negative symptoms should be taken seriously. But the bottom line is that the life-saving benefit is far greater than any negatives...Vaccines are the reason most of us don't lose two or three or ten children in infancy or young childhood as families used to and they save many adults as well. Go to Medline or Pub Med...Read the articles and the background references...Don't rely on some internet site.

      October 28, 2010 at 06:26 | Report abuse |
    • da

      If your child dies of a vaccine-preventable disease, it constitutes at least manslaughter IMO.

      October 28, 2010 at 15:31 | Report abuse |
    • CalgarySandy, Calgary, AB

      God may want you to be sick but I do not want you to give my child an illness. I do not want my child orphaned because of your sick and twisted religious belief. When Christians can heal as Joshua ben Joseph supposedly did then you can continue to endanger the rest of us and then heal us. You are about the most selfish person I have yet to run into on here. You are as bad as the Autism lobby that would not accept the science and put the entire continent at risk. Joshua never said you had the right to endanger others or force them to your lifestyle.

      October 28, 2010 at 17:02 | Report abuse |
    • Improve Concentration

      That is correct!

      Improve Concentration

      October 30, 2010 at 14:43 | Report abuse |
  2. VA

    @stu: that presupposes there is an invisible being. You probably also believe in Santa Claus..

    October 27, 2010 at 20:07 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Improve Concentration

      There is such a thing

      Improve Concentration

      October 30, 2010 at 14:43 | Report abuse |
  3. Dea2

    These diseases killed thousands each year before vaccines. We want our children to not have to go through the bad things we have experienced in life. My kids will never have chicken pox, shingles, measles, and a ton of other diseases that made me miserable and interrupted my education. They got their Tdap boosters, they will never have the severe whooping cough that nearly killed me five years ago. They got their menigitis shots before leaving for college. They will hopefully never end up losing a limb to that fast acting disease. I will be getting the pnemonia shot soon, and I get my flu shot every year because I have an inherited autoimmune illness that puts me in the high risk group, and when my tetanus booster comes due, I'm getting the pertussis booster as well to protect the next generation.

    October 27, 2010 at 20:11 | Report abuse | Reply
    • soapboxcom

      Don't believe for a moment that your children are magically "protected" from these diseases. Vaccines aren't 100% effective, for one...and for another, this report doesn't even bother to mention how many people vaccinated against WC actually GOT the disease anyway. You'll see that in a lot of this type of reporting...SCARE! Rise in Whooping Cough! Scare! Rise in Measels! But no mention of vaccinated people getting the disease as well as the unvaccinated.

      You do realize, yes...that all those pesky diseases (and in a vast majority, they are merely pesky) you suffered as a child has already allowed you to pass along the best form of immunity to your children–a natural one?

      October 28, 2010 at 07:01 | Report abuse |
    • Chris R

      You do realise that you don't pass along immunity to a disease. Mother's milk provides some level of protection but only for the first few months of life (assuming they are breast fed) and even then, it's not like having a fully developed immune system. Any protection that is passed along can only be passed if the mother has either had the disease or had been vaccinated. It's probably better to give someone a whooping cough vaccine than try to get them sick. Don't you think?

      As for the protection offered by vaccines – no, they aren't 100% effective. Then tend to be between 80% and 95% effective though and that's pretty good – especially when everyone around you is similarly protected. In situations where an immunized person does get sick the illness tends to be much less severe.

      October 28, 2010 at 08:53 | Report abuse |
    • rukiddingme

      @soapboxcom: I never post, but I had to reply to you. People think they are so smart when they are so ignorant. If you didn't major in Biology (as I did) get a graduate degree (as I did) and don't teach at a college (like I do) stop pretending like you know what you are talking about. You do not "pass on" immunity to your children. It is NOT an inherited trait. Just because you had the chicken pox DOES NOT mean your kids will be immue to it. The only immunity you pass on to your kids is through breast milk. It is limited and is not life-long. It only lasts as long as you breastfeed. As soon as you stop that immunity is gone and the child is left vulnerable. Don't talk about something you don't know anything about....your misconceptions could literally kill a poor child with a preventable disease. And tell me if you think these diseases are just "pesky" when your child dies from one of them.

      October 28, 2010 at 08:58 | Report abuse |
    • duh

      Seriously, people, read through the post. Nobody said anything about passing on immunity, they're talking about getting the kids a vaccination for chicken pox.

      October 28, 2010 at 11:06 | Report abuse |
    • Doug

      @duh: Your name is quite apt. "Soapboxcom" very clearly did talk about passing on immunity in the last paragraph of his/her post ("You do realize, yes...that all those pesky diseases (and in a vast majority, they are merely pesky) you suffered as a child has already allowed you to pass along the best form of immunity to your children–a natural one?")

      Chris and rukiddingme are just pointing out the obvious – that soapboxcom has no idea what he's talking about. Not only are they completely right about not being able to pass on immunity, but his other point that some of the people that get sick have had the vaccination is both misleading and irrelevant. Vaccines are generally about 80-95% effective. This means that you are about ten-times more likely to get the disease if you are not vaccinated. The fact that some people who get whooping cough have been vaccinated is fully expected, and does not challenge the effectiveness of vaccines. (By analogy, it would be like saying that seat belts are useless, because some people who die in car crashes were wearing seat belts. Seat belts, like vaccines, are not perfect, but they improve your chances of survival.)

      October 28, 2010 at 12:48 | Report abuse |
    • David

      Thank You Dea2 for being so diligent on your vaccines. My son was diagnosed with Leukemia at 7 months of age. The chemotherapy that saved his life left his immune system terribly compromised. Leaving him extremely high risk to catching all kinds of infections. Many of which are harmless to us (healthy people) are life threatening to him. What many people are forgetting these days, is that the vaccinations we give our children and ourselves(boosters) not only protect them/us, they protect the community as a whole, and people at high risk like my son. Back in the 1920's before an effective vaccine for Pertussis was developed, this serious illness claimed the lives of around 6,000 innocent children each year!!! Today 10 children have lost their lives in CA alone due to Pertussis, a disease that was all but irradiated through vaccines. All I'm saying is that if you are the one that did not get vaccinated for a "preventable" disease and you contract the illness, and you spread it to an innocent child like my son who is high risk at no fault of his own and they die from it. How would you feel if it was your child?

      November 4, 2010 at 05:36 | Report abuse |
    • David

      Thank You Doug! You are absolutely correct. Vaccines may not be perfect but like seatbelts they improve your chances of survival which is what I do for my son everyday. Try to make his environment the safest for him as possible!!! (He is a 23 month old who is immunocompromised from chemotherapy. He was diagnosed with Leukemia at age 7 months)

      November 4, 2010 at 05:39 | Report abuse |
  4. zann

    Who pays for the vaccinations? Who should pay?

    In cases where the public is at risk, vaccination should probably be mandatory – but these days, it is hard for people to pay for them.

    Last year was the first year I could not afford flu shot, but won't be the last... and I used to think I was in the middle class. Maybe I'm not, anymore.

    October 27, 2010 at 20:13 | Report abuse | Reply
    • s

      check media outlets or call you local health department. there are always clinics on certain dates that give free flu shots.

      October 27, 2010 at 21:33 | Report abuse |
    • mpouxesas

      To pay for those vaccinations I suggest...that we recall all corporate thugs who are responsible for the fleecing of america (taking our money) and make them pay for the vaccinations for ALL children in this country as well as provide health insurance for all...their money is enough to do that...How about that for a wealth distribution? 🙂

      October 28, 2010 at 09:12 | Report abuse |
  5. dmmander

    Stu, sadly for you there is no vaccine for stupidity.

    October 27, 2010 at 20:21 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Improve Concentration

      Ha very nice
      Improve Concentration

      October 30, 2010 at 14:44 | Report abuse |
  6. Katiana

    I know, with the depression and everything going on, not a lot of people will have much money. the government is draining it all for wars and elections. I swear our pay checks pay them and they get a big head cause of the money. you know only 5% of the U.S. people hold 85% of all of our pay???

    October 27, 2010 at 20:21 | Report abuse | Reply
  7. Chris

    Katiana , you know 50% of the pay NO taxes and the top 5% pay 85% of the taxes.

    October 27, 2010 at 20:39 | Report abuse | Reply
    • memyselfandI

      No she doesn't because that's FALSE information. Go to the CBO(Congressional Budget Office) and get the real data , don't just regurgitate garbage.

      October 28, 2010 at 01:01 | Report abuse |
    • kaschap28

      You've got to be f'g kidding me right? Do you actually believe that?

      October 28, 2010 at 10:11 | Report abuse |
    • Taxey

      We all have income taxes withheld, and while many people get a partial refund, we don't get the full amount back, and some of us end up owing, so what is really your point?

      Don't get me started on the corporations making record profits while avoiding income taxes, or people wealthy enough to hide money in other countries or hire accountants who use fancy accounting tricks.

      Then there are all the people who write-off a fortune in made-up deductibles and hide assets when they declare bankruptcy.

      It must be difficult to have so much wealth that you're in the highest tax bracket. 😉

      October 28, 2010 at 10:34 | Report abuse |
  8. abe

    "The committee voted to recommend that teens receive the vaccine between 11 and 12 years of age." Since when are 11-12 year olds considered teens?

    October 27, 2010 at 20:59 | Report abuse | Reply
  9. John

    I would love for them to report how many vacinated people/kids make up the 6,200 cases.

    October 27, 2010 at 21:15 | Report abuse | Reply
    • JB

      For what purposes?

      The recommended DTaP vaccination for babies starts at 2 months.

      If they do get sick, there's a very small chance that the vaccine didn't register with the body.

      October 27, 2010 at 21:29 | Report abuse |
    • MattCore

      Why??? The whole point of this story is that we are 2-3 generations into not immunizing our kids and now babies who can't be immunized yet are dying from the disease that should have been wiped out with the previous generation of babies. I mean if you aren't real smart nickelodeon has some health info on their website...you should go there and leave this discusion to the adults.

      October 27, 2010 at 22:05 | Report abuse |
    • Drew

      John – I believe I had read or heard at one time that if 100% of the population was vaccinated for say "whooping cough" or "small pox" that on average 5% of the vaccinations would "fail" or never take. But – if 100% of the population took the vaccinations, the chance of an epidemic or outbreak would be very small.

      The problem is when people start using hersay instead of science to try and explain other problems and incorrectly link it back vaccinations. Try looking up smallpox on wikipedia. They had a bunch of "educated" folks in England decide it was no longer a problem and stopped getting the vaccination. Guess what? They had an outbreak that killed hundreds of thousands of people. Unfortunately – history repeats itself – and "cured" diseases become uncured again because people forgo simple, cheap vaccinations. Take a close look at the little girl in the wikipedia picture with smallpox. If you were her parent and knowingly turned down the vaccination that could've prevented it – how would you feel ?

      Vaccinations are not evil, vaccinations do NOT cause Autism – come on people – take advantage of modern medicine.

      October 28, 2010 at 00:42 | Report abuse |
    • Rocksor

      Actually Drew, the studies show that MMR does not cause autism and that thimersol in vaccines do not cause autism. That's all the studies say.

      October 28, 2010 at 11:41 | Report abuse |
  10. Jai

    I blame Jenny McCarthy.

    October 27, 2010 at 21:15 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Rocksor

      So when's the last time you got your whooping cough booster?

      October 28, 2010 at 11:39 | Report abuse |
  11. Carlos

    Viva La Raza! We bring to US...

    October 27, 2010 at 21:47 | Report abuse | Reply
  12. Phillip

    Someone please email this story to Jenny McCarthy and inform her followers that this is why you don't take medical advice from someone who got famous by taking off her clothes for a living.

    October 27, 2010 at 21:57 | Report abuse | Reply
  13. MattCore

    Of course California, the land of the intellectual elite, would cite a study, that has been discredited, when deciding NOT to immunize their kids. So, now a couple of years into this no immunization fiasco the 3-6 year olds who went without vaccination have spread the virus to babies who couldn't have been immunized yet. It's a real simple story with a bunch of idiots with no real education playing doctor.

    October 27, 2010 at 22:00 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Rocksor

      Blah blah blah....Adults who do not get their vaccine boosters are the ones to blame.

      October 28, 2010 at 11:38 | Report abuse |
  14. MattCore

    The simple jist of this whole story is....idiot wannabe hippies with no education, other than emotional over reaction, shouldn' t play doctor.

    October 27, 2010 at 22:02 | Report abuse | Reply
  15. J Mathew

    Vaccination is a scam ... It is based on consensus not on scientific proof. Recently Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that because the majority of Intelligence Agency in the world believed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, so it is OK to invade Iraq even though the majority is wrong !!! Mass vaccination will create the next pandemic ...

    October 27, 2010 at 22:14 | Report abuse | Reply
    • PinkUnicorn

      You are confused. It is NOT vaccinating that will lead to a pandemic. I hope you dont procreate.

      October 27, 2010 at 23:26 | Report abuse |
    • jim d.

      it's a consensus that just a few generations ago lots of people got polio and now they don't? please get back on your meds.....

      October 28, 2010 at 03:54 | Report abuse |
    • duh

      And why haven't vaccinations ever caused a pandemic before? We've been vaccinating for a while now.

      October 28, 2010 at 11:09 | Report abuse |
    • Wowzers

      You are so dumb that I'm slightly in shock...I was just going on my merry, ignorant way, thinking that nobody could possibly ever be as dumb as you. I second the notion that you should never procreate.

      October 28, 2010 at 12:20 | Report abuse |
  16. Terry - Indiana

    The CDC predicted that we would see a significant increase in several disease outbreaks, caused by millions of immigrants who arrive in the United States without proper inoculations. Illegals are not required to get immunized until they apply for citizenship. The schools in California are not demanding proper immunization for students, and we are starting to see the outbreaks that were predicted.

    October 27, 2010 at 22:27 | Report abuse | Reply
    • emily

      Thank you! So many people are blaming those that were/are fearful of vaccinations. I'm sure the millions of illegal "immigrants" in those areas had NOTHING to do with it! The article clearly stated that 9 of those 10 cases resulting in death were hispanic and family members had been suffering from a "cough illness." I know I am going to hear racism... etc... but I am going to go out on a limb and say they had questionable immigration status. I grew up in California; the illegal immigration runs rampant. Try going to the emergency room in areas with higher illegal immigrant populations.

      October 28, 2010 at 09:16 | Report abuse |
    • Ken

      It is not racism (I have no idea if you're racist or not) to note the increased incidence of pertussis in the Hispanic population. Hispanics have historically represented a disproportionate number of pertussis cases (per Dr. Cherry, one of the world's experts on pertussis) likely due to, on average, the higher number of people living in Hispanic households versus other households. So yes, non-vaccinated illegal immigrants do pose one group that pertussis can propagate through.

      However that does NOT excuse the people that have both the educational opportunity and financial means to be vaccinated/boosted. Many illegal immigrants lack resources to get vaccinated, and the California government provides free vaccines to all pediatric residents if their families cannot pay for vaccines, regardless of citizenship status. In my clinic illegal immigrant children were routinely getting vaccinated because their parents believed in the value of vaccines. The overwhelming majority of families refusing vaccines were from affluent, educated communities.

      October 28, 2010 at 13:17 | Report abuse |
  17. Tim Bates

    Thanks Jenny .You have blood on your hands

    October 27, 2010 at 22:40 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Rocksor

      Are your vaccinations up to date?

      October 28, 2010 at 11:35 | Report abuse |
  18. Average American

    All because of the ILLEGAL ALIENS....

    October 27, 2010 at 22:42 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Nope

      With your logic, no one should be allowed to travel to another country, ever.

      October 28, 2010 at 10:36 | Report abuse |
    • Rocksor

      If only adults would get all the vaccinations up to date every 5-10 years.

      October 28, 2010 at 11:36 | Report abuse |
  19. PinkUnicorn

    wow, just wow.

    Im repulsed by the fact that i started laughing 🙂

    October 27, 2010 at 23:24 | Report abuse | Reply
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  21. Constantine

    I dont get it – is it just an outbreak there?
    How long before its spreads north, east?

    October 28, 2010 at 00:20 | Report abuse | Reply
  22. Lucas RN

    This can be prevented if parents get their babies vaccinated....there are risks to not vaccinating people!

    October 28, 2010 at 00:23 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Tia

      Vaccinations cost money...in case you missed it, the economy is pretty sh&tty in California and people can't afford it. And if you're going to retort with "there are free clinics" then please, post a list of where these great free clinics can be found. Otherwise STFU.

      October 28, 2010 at 01:34 | Report abuse |
    • Claire

      Tia, call your local health department. In my state you can get vaccinations at your health department for free or for a very low cost. You can also get free or very low cost vaccinations at physicians offices. Ask the doctor's office if they participate in the "Vaccines for Children Program." This program is funded by the federal government to provide vaccines for children who might not otherwise afford them. In my state children who are on medicaid, who don't have private insurance, or whose insurance does not cover vaccinations are eligible for the program.

      October 28, 2010 at 02:50 | Report abuse |
    • Rocksor

      This epidemic wouldn't be around if adults would get their vaccination boosters. Most don't.

      October 28, 2010 at 11:34 | Report abuse |
  23. chan7

    God wants us to discover cures so we will not suffer and have a heather lives. God wants all of us to know what he knows and learn how to create life and wants all of his children to become Gods and Goddess like him and his wives.

    October 28, 2010 at 03:22 | Report abuse | Reply
  24. jallu

    whooping coff only cills baybies ho not breastfed too

    October 28, 2010 at 06:33 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Nope

      That is incorrect. Breastfeeding does not prevent Whooping Cough.

      October 28, 2010 at 10:37 | Report abuse |
  25. Steve

    Jenny McCarthy murdered 10 people in CA.

    October 28, 2010 at 08:13 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Nope

      People are capable of researching the vaccine "debate" and making a decision, with their doctors, regarding what is best for their children. You can't blame this on one person for speaking out about her beliefs.

      No one has proven our vaccine schedule contributes toward some cases of autism, but no one has proven what else triggers cases, either.

      October 28, 2010 at 10:41 | Report abuse |
    • Wowhead

      Not really. The adults who take care of those kids did. They didn't get their whooping cough booster.

      October 28, 2010 at 11:31 | Report abuse |
  26. Allan Schwarb

    "Unfortunately and tragically we have had 10 deaths, all in infants under 2 years of age," said Dr. Kathleen Harriman

    Wasn't their age of death under 2 months - not 2 years?

    October 28, 2010 at 08:30 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Doug

      I'm pretty sure that if an infant is under 2 months, he is also under two years old.

      October 28, 2010 at 12:55 | Report abuse |
  27. Kelly

    We don't think much about it today but they had polio epidemics in the last century that were irradicated by vaccines, so I can't understand why people are so against them. That being said, I don't think kids should be getting chicken pox vaccinations. You get it as a kid and it's barely more than a fever, and then you're set for life, but if the vaccination does happen to fail it would be far far worse as an adult. Limit vaccinations for conditions that pose an actual threat.

    October 28, 2010 at 08:35 | Report abuse | Reply
    • ksquared129

      Except that getting the chickenpox as a kid sets you up for shingles later in life. Or, you could get the vaccine, and not have to worry about either.

      October 28, 2010 at 10:27 | Report abuse |
    • da

      Varicella (chickenpox) vaccine is intended to prevent the c0omplications of chickenpox (pneumonia, meningitis) that can kill.

      October 28, 2010 at 15:35 | Report abuse |
  28. bryan

    Who is checking the vaccination records of mexicans streaming accross our border?

    Oh yeah nobody

    October 28, 2010 at 08:43 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Nope

      Please, don't vacation in Europe. You might bring a disease there.

      October 28, 2010 at 10:42 | Report abuse |
  29. AJ

    In the 1990s, the newly independent states of the former Soviet Union provided a classic case study of what happens when people stop getting vaccinated. Diphtheria had been very well controlled for decades until the vaccine program was dirupted by the political changes. It took less than 5 years for the incidence of diphetheria to jump more than 50-fold to over 50.000 cases a year! This resulted in more than 4,000 deaths. It doesn't take long for falling vaccination rates to result in a reemergence of a pandemic. After vaccination efforts were increased, the number dropped dramatically again. The cause of lax vaccination is often that our generation has no memory of the destruction caused by these diseases prior to vaccines. There is a reason life expectancy increased from 47 years just a hundred years ago to nearly 80 years now!

    October 28, 2010 at 08:45 | Report abuse | Reply
  30. Ironhead

    Note that almost all infected persons are Mexican. Probably those illegal "Immigrants" that arent a danger to us. Beside the criminal aspect, there is a growing number of third world diseases resurfacing across America in and around communities that these immigrants reside in.

    October 28, 2010 at 08:48 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Chris R

      Not Mexican but hispanic. There were hispanics living in California *loooong* before it was even a US territory let alone a state. Also, the vaccine compliance rate in Mexico is significantly higher in Mexico than in the United States.

      October 28, 2010 at 09:12 | Report abuse |
    • Liz

      How on EARTH did the immigration argument get brought up here? Did it not cross your mind that many AMERICANS travel in and out of the US all the time? Have you been to an airport lately? Just go and look up at all of the international flights...

      P.S. unless you are a native american you are the descendent of an immigrant – should we blame your relatives for bringing the diseases into the country in the first place? (to stoop to your level)

      October 28, 2010 at 23:04 | Report abuse |
  31. CommonSense

    You know I hate to tell everyone that wants to put this all on immigration or the economy (which is probably part of the issue) but we have plenty or red blooded American citizens out there who are choosing to not vaccinate their children, due to internet RUMORS, linking autism to the vaccinations. Yes people these are in fact RUMORS there has been no proven facts of these links. However there is a proven link between not vaccinating and that child having a lot better chance of getting the whooping cough. Unfortunately our generation suffers from a disease I like to call over information. The internet is a great thing but we all need to remember when we read information on it to validate the source of that information. Just a hint.... if you read something on a blog it is not fact it is hear say unless backed up by something else. So please stop giving in to your every irrational fear and thought and have some common sense and think through your decisions. What is more likely for your kid to get autism from a vaccination or that your kid gets one of the diseases he/she was not vaccinated for? For all of those who will ask..... yes I am a parent and I had my kid vaccinated and will continue to do so.

    October 28, 2010 at 09:45 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Wowhead

      Adults who do not get their whooping cough boosters are to blame for the whooping cough epidemic we see now. What are the chances an unvaccinated kid would come in contact with an infant less than 3 months of age? What are the chances that the care givers of that infant do not have their immunizations up to date?

      October 28, 2010 at 11:30 | Report abuse |
  32. J-Mo

    I will just stick to the oil that Jesus taught about. It smacks any vaccine down to the ground. Nothing tops the medicine that God provides and nothing ever will!!!!

    October 28, 2010 at 10:31 | Report abuse | Reply
    • da

      ... and if your kid dies of a vaccine-preventable disease, you are guilty of murder. Thou Shat Not Kill.

      October 28, 2010 at 15:37 | Report abuse |
    • CalgarySandy, Calgary, AB

      I did not know that Joshua ben Joseph sold snake oil.

      October 28, 2010 at 17:06 | Report abuse |
  33. sophia

    Check out this great Whooping Cough PSA by the Giants Pedro Sandoval. http://ow.ly/30Tly

    October 28, 2010 at 10:55 | Report abuse | Reply
  34. Emma

    Look, it's not the illegal immigrants. Mexico has a higher vaccination rate than the US, so the vast majority are coming across the border with all their vaccine. As for legal immigrants, part of applying for a green card is getting your vaxes up to do (you must show proof of vax BEFORE being issued an immigration visa).

    As for whooping cough. It will need to run its course. I don't believe it can be contained, even if everyone gets their boosters. It is a toxoid vaccine, meaning that it works (when it works!) on the toxin produced by the bacteria, rather than the bacteria itself. That means that is can NOT prevent transmission and infection with the bacteria. In the best case scenario, it will minimize symptoms when a vaccinated individual becomes infected (so they would have, say, a mild cough, rather than coughing spasms typical of whooping cough).

    You can look at this in one of two ways. One view is that, if the vaccine minimizes symptoms, an infected individual would be less likely to spew the bacteria onto others, thereby spreading infection. The other view, however, is that this actually creates more silent (or near silent) carriers of the disease–people who don't present with the typical symptoms and therefore never realize that they are infected so they go about their usual business potentially infecting others without realizing it.

    Either way, pertussis cycles every three to five years, regardless of vaccination rate. This is a peak year. If you want a chance to minimize your symptoms, by all means get a booster. But this will just need to cycle out.

    October 28, 2010 at 13:00 | Report abuse | Reply
    • CalgarySandy, Calgary, AB

      NAFTA work permits do not require up-to-date immunization. I suspect the other work permits do not either.

      October 28, 2010 at 17:05 | Report abuse |
  35. c

    the vaccine doesn't protect a person from getting whooping cough, it only prevents a toxin induced severe case.

    the strain of bacteria in the vaccine may not match the strain circulating in this community and therefore the vaccine is pretty much worthless.

    the US government at one time admitted the dtp shot could cause death and severe brain injury, not so much anymore.

    since some vaccines are capable of causing brain swelling, which can injury the developing brain. so why does the public believe autism cannot be caused by vaccines.

    who is funding and researching the studies clearing vaccines? oh that would be the vaccine industry.

    vaccines are a risk and no vaccine is 100 percent safe or effective.

    read the vaccine package insert, demand information about the vaccine injury compensation fund.

    read the CDC pink book.

    people posting here are obviously not educated on vaccines, and or these diseases.
    whooping cough has been around like forever and so has this worthless vaccine. get a clue and ask why is this disease in the headlines.

    because there is money to be made since the masses are as stupid as sheep when it comes to vaccines and a new adult shot just came on the market.

    October 28, 2010 at 13:19 | Report abuse | Reply
    • CalgarySandy, Calgary, AB

      There are several antibiotics that can be used for the infections that can occur even in adults. I am 62 and recovering from pertussis (whooping cough). My son brought it home from the University he works where many hundreds of foreign students are and whose family visit. It was not so bad on him. It was horrific for me. An antibiotic got rid of the throat and ear infections. Nothing works for the cough and vomitting due to coughing so hard and so long or the nearly crippling fatique, headaches and all over miasma.. It could be 12 weeks of hard, dry hacking. Babies cannot catch a breathe after this cough. It is the dramatic and painful attempts to breath that cause the whooping sounds in children and rarely in adults. It is my fault for not keeping our immunizations up to day. No matter what is said, something kept the epidemics from my childhood at bay. Than along came those lackwits in the Autism lobby.

      October 28, 2010 at 17:16 | Report abuse |
    • eeyore

      I don't believe your claims.

      October 28, 2010 at 21:19 | Report abuse |
    • eeyore

      That last post was to "c", who thinks vaccines are just another scam.

      You and your kind make me puke.

      October 28, 2010 at 21:19 | Report abuse |
  36. Paula

    I think there's a misquote in the story – Dr. Harriman didn't say 10 babies under 2 years of age, it's 10 babies under 2 *months* age. (Unless she had a slip of the tongue.) Which makes it all the sadder. Those babies never had the chance to develop their own protection because they were too young to be vaccinated against pertussis. They were relying on others not to give it to them, and they were let down.

    October 28, 2010 at 13:26 | Report abuse | Reply
  37. nannie12

    My son got the whooping cough at age 9. His vaccine wore off. His doctors office did not want to call it whooping cough for whatever reason. It's awful!! Vomiting and a cough that last's a long time. He just got the booster vaccine now at 10 years old. The recommended age for the booster used to be 11. Do not wait till then. Its a epidemic now !! Here in the north bay bayarea. Now I read that kids need the booster meningitis vaccine at age 16 because these vaccines are wearing off.

    October 28, 2010 at 14:07 | Report abuse | Reply
  38. jim

    As California sinks further into its new found role as the world's largest primitive Mexican village, the health situation will undoubtedly degenerate even more. Maybe it will become useful as a new testing ground for the pharmaceutical companies.

    October 28, 2010 at 15:21 | Report abuse | Reply
  39. Rachael

    The following is taken from the Clinical Journal of Microbiology Vol 43 No. 8, just google it.........."During the last decade, the number of pertussis cases has increased in countries with high vaccination coverage rates. This transition has been seen in many countries and is suggested to be vaccine driven, as the strains used in the whole-cell pertussis vaccines do not contain the ptxA1 variant." What this means is they think the Whooping cough has mutated and was caused by the vaccine itself......Due to all the money of Big Pharma you wont see this on the news, you have to go find it. Good luck to people who dare take a vaccine...........

    October 28, 2010 at 20:37 | Report abuse | Reply
  40. Rachael

    ...The following is taken from the Clinical Journal of Microbiology Vol 43 No. 8, just google it.........."During the last decade, the number of pertussis cases has increased in countries with high vaccination coverage rates. This transition has been seen in many countries and is suggested to be vaccine driven, as the strains used in the whole-cell pertussis vaccines do not contain the ptxA1 variant." What this means is they think the Whooping cough has mutated and was caused by the vaccine itself......Due to all the money of Big Pharma you wont see this on the news, you have to go find it. Good luck to people who dare take a vaccine...........

    October 28, 2010 at 20:49 | Report abuse | Reply
    • eeyore

      Oh, spare me. "Good luck to people who dare to take a vaccine"? What a crock. If you're scared of medicine, vaccines, antibiotics, "big pharma", and doctors, go live somewhere without these terrible "dangers", you silly twit. I hear the Congo is lovely during polio season.

      October 28, 2010 at 21:30 | Report abuse |
    • Liz

      Its called survival of the fittest...
      the only pertussis strains that survive are the ones that people don't have immunity to. I wouldn't say that it is "caused" by the vaccines – its what happens with all microbes that evolve to evade our antibiotics and vaccines. Its why we have to get a flu shot every year.

      October 28, 2010 at 22:54 | Report abuse |
  41. Rachael

    I have posted twice, I wonder how PinkUnicorn's post manages to stay listed as the most recent??? Makes you wonder who is being paid to post???

    October 28, 2010 at 20:51 | Report abuse | Reply
    • eeyore

      Can you say "paranoia"? I knew you could.

      October 28, 2010 at 21:17 | Report abuse |
  42. eeyore

    Those who are claiming that being vaccinated doesn't prevent transmission of pertussis have yet to explain how someone who's been vaccinated can transmit the disease to unvaccinated infants. Whooping cough is spread by droplets expelled when an infected person coughs. Even IF the vaccine does not completely prevent the disease, it ameliorates the symptoms and therefore reduces the chances one will spread the bacteria via coughing and sneezing.

    Really, people, what possible excuse can you have for not getting your kids vaccinated and not getting a booster? Some of the "reasoning" here is simply inane.

    October 28, 2010 at 21:28 | Report abuse | Reply
  43. Rachael

    Wow lots of big pharma posting now......I never said anything about antibiotics, doctors or being scared of medicine, only vaccines which are toxic and don't work. Antibiotics have to go through a double blind study to prove they work. There has NEVER been and NEVER will be a double blind study done on vaccines to prove they work. You won't and can't find one double blind study done on vaccines, hook line, sinker.......bu ya.........Did you know they just came out with a super flu vaccine? 4 times the potency....and they say it's 90% effective. What that means is they are saying the current flu vaccine is worthless and doesn't work and has never worked.

    October 28, 2010 at 22:05 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Liz

      Here's some DAMN good evidence that vaccines work:
      during my medical training I never saw a case of polio until I went to a third world country.
      I never saw diptheria.
      I never saw haemophilus influenzae type b.
      I never saw tetanus.
      I never saw rubella.
      I never saw mumps.
      Pneumococcus is becoming rare.
      I saw 1 case of measles, it was a teenager from Italy who was travelling to NYC
      I am starting to see more pertussis.
      I just saw a child who is immunosuppressed with chicken pox.
      During my first year of residency I had the unfortunate task of putting IVs in LOTS AND LOTS of infants with rotavirus; as the vaccine was introduced, there was an dramatic decrease in rotavirus cases the next year.

      (On a bit of a tangent, I also noticed that the field of "pediatric AIDS" is fading away. 3 years in pediatric residency in NYC, 0 new pediatric AIDS cases. Not a vaccine issue, just something to be happy about 🙂

      October 28, 2010 at 22:50 | Report abuse |
  44. Rachael

    Oh and if you are so SURE vaccines work then you shouldn't have to worry about those who do not get vaccinated. If they work you are all fully protected and can't catch anything... Oh wait you will come back and say they wear off after time and you need boosters.. How convenient is that?? You know if you got the real disease you would have a lifetime immunity...Ok lets pretend they even work and wear off after time, that time period would not be the same for everyone. 5 years for some, 8 years for some etc... that means there are at least 30-40% more people not covered by vaccines, so where are all the epidemics of disease? Back to my original point, they don't work.....

    October 28, 2010 at 22:11 | Report abuse | Reply
    • eeyore

      You really are too dim for words, Rachael. What a shame there's no vaccine for ignorance and stupidity.

      October 29, 2010 at 21:48 | Report abuse |
  45. Liz

    Neither the vaccine OR having the disease gives you lifelong immunity. (ie those who suffer thru the disease "naturally")

    Boosters are necessary for everyone. Lets protect the babies.

    October 28, 2010 at 22:30 | Report abuse | Reply
  46. Rachael

    Hmmmm then why does the CDC document Natural Acquired Immunity which states an individual who has a full blown case of a disease such as measles will develop enough antibodies to last a lifetime and prevent recurrence of the disease versus artificial acquired immunity where an individual receives a vaccine to stimulate the formation of antibodies within his or her body and will need multiple immunizations throughout their lifetime to prevent the disease? In 1975 Germany stopped requiring pertussis (whooping cough) vaccination. Today less than 10 % of German children are vaccinated against pertussis. The number of cases of pertussis has steadily decreased even though far fewer children are receiving pertussis vaccine. In 1986 there were 1300 cases of pertussis in Kansas and 90 % of these cases occurred in children who had been adequately vaccinated. Similar vaccine failures have been reported from Nova Scotia where pertussis continues to be occurring despite universal vaccination. Pertussis remains endemic in the Netherlands where for more than 20 years 96 % of children have received 3 pertussis shots by age 12 months. VACCINES DON"T WORK SISTER

    October 28, 2010 at 23:02 | Report abuse | Reply
    • eeyore

      You are an idiot, Rachael. If vaccines "didn't work", you'd be dead.

      Some people might not see that as a negative factor, considering your dimwittedness.

      October 29, 2010 at 22:25 | Report abuse |
  47. Rachael

    Real nice proof Liz............You are one person who never saw any of those things.........Where's any real proof or scientific documentation? You may convince those with low IQ's.............I have also never seen the Colorado Rockies but they exist dear

    October 28, 2010 at 23:26 | Report abuse | Reply
  48. scenic


    thank you, thank you, thank you for the truth on vaccines. BIG pharma is leading sheep to slaughter.

    October 29, 2010 at 05:15 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David

      "Big Pharma" ... You guys are idiots. Get your head out of the sand and be thankful for all of the countless people who have created all of the medicines that are out there to cure diseases now. My son was diagnosed with Leukemia at 7 months old. He is alive today because of the chemotherapy drugs that "BIG PHARMA" developed. If he had been diagnosed with the same disease back in the 80's before all of the drug therapies were available that he received, his survival rate statistically would have dropped from around 90%(today) to around 50%('80's). And because the chemotherapy leaves him immunocompromised idiots like you and Rachel put him at risk every day by not getting vaccinated for "preventable" diseases. Because, while these diseases like pertussis probably won't kill you they most likely will kill people like my son if you contracted the illness and transmitted it to him!!!

      November 4, 2010 at 06:34 | Report abuse |
  49. David

    Check out what a world recognized PROFESSIONAL in Pediatric Infectious Disease with over 30 years of research experience on Pertussis specifically has to say about it. Dr. Cherry of UCLA Mattel Children's Hospital: http://www.uclahealth.org/body.cfm?id=479&action=detail&ref=4376
    Does anyone remember what a logical fallacy is? Ever heard of "Appeal to False Authority" That's a universally recognized faulty logic technique, when someone poses as an expert(when they are not in fact one) on a subject to argue a point. ie a pediatrician that is arguing about a NASA space station issue he/she knows nothing about. People like Dr. Cherry are experts in the this field and they strongly recommend the vaccine for your and our children's safety! Unless of course you prefer to side with the alternative authority figure on the subject... Jenny McCarthy?

    November 4, 2010 at 06:19 | Report abuse | Reply
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