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August 9th, 2010
01:57 PM ET

Teacher's union fights for Viagra

In the time of major budget crunches and layoffs in education, a teacher’s union in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, is fighting for the right to Viagra.

From CNN’s affiliate WISN: “The union claims that some teachers could be discriminated against by not having the drug covered by insurance.”

The station also reports that the Milwaukee school system is about $30 million in debt. Erectile dysfunction pills cost about $20 to $25 a pop - that most insurance companies do not provide coverage.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported: “In 2008, the teachers' union filed a charge with the state's Equal Rights Division, complaining that not offering the drug violated the Wisconsin Fair Employment Act.”

Milwaukee parents aren’t quite so sympathetic about the plight of the male teachers and their erectile needs.

"It's a waste of time, let's spend time on the kids," said Deon Patton, who has children enrolled in Milwaukee Public Schools, told WISN.


soundoff (439 Responses)
  1. Dan G.

    I guess that is why they need one more bailout. I'm sure the Dems will find money some where so they can continue with their union benefits.

    August 9, 2010 at 14:11 | Report abuse | Reply
    • GiGi

      Right, because we know all of those white-haired horny men are dems. Give me a break.

      August 9, 2010 at 15:21 | Report abuse |
    • Will

      Yeah, I wish we could go back to the fiscal responsibility of Bush's administration.

      August 9, 2010 at 15:41 | Report abuse |
    • Geoz

      Yeah, those crazy unions with their anti-child labor tendencies. They think they deserve vacation, too. I mean really.

      August 9, 2010 at 16:37 | Report abuse |
    • bmaryland

      Great one, GIGI! 🙂

      August 9, 2010 at 17:10 | Report abuse |
    • 31459

      Everyone is totally missing the point. If medical insurance is not going to pay for Viagra, they shouldn't pay for birth control, anti-depressants, hormone therapy, ambien or any other drug that is not necessary for life but enhances a persons total well being. It's discriminatory to do other wise. And if you haven't experienced the problem, like I have no clue what a hot flash is, what being depressed feels like (hey just suck it up right?) you have no clue what you are talking about. Not only that, my wife will ask if I've taken mine so she isn't wasting her time.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:12 | Report abuse |
    • OhWow

      Hey it's the only way the SEIU can continue screwing America!

      August 9, 2010 at 17:45 | Report abuse |
    • JA

      Dan is saying that the Dems are the ones who just passed a jobs bill which essentially allows public sector unions to keep their pensions while the private sector continues to suffer. He is not implying that all teachers who need viagra are democrats.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:46 | Report abuse |
    • 10111775

      To 31459 – We are not missing the point. The bottom line is the country is broke. You do not have a right "to an enhanced well being." "An enhanced well being" is privlege of a good economy. Right now our economy is bad. If an American wants "an enhanced well being" let them pay for it our of their own pocket. Let's not saddle our children with more unnecessary debt. That means it is time for teachers and all Americans over 45, liberals and conservative, to ask what they are willing to sacrifice in order to keep the next generation out of debt.

      August 9, 2010 at 18:16 | Report abuse |
    • cheylna

      31459 Where does it stop? I could use some Botox, a breast augmentation, and liposuction. That would certainly make my life better. The drugs that you mention are often necessary for people to get up, go to work, and live their life.

      August 9, 2010 at 19:30 | Report abuse |
    • PHinMiami

      Dems?? Were you asleep the prior 8 years? Pedophiles and assorted sex offenders are provided free Viagra. Maybe, just maybe, our health-care system could use some 'tweaking'?

      August 9, 2010 at 19:48 | Report abuse |
    • Norm

      "Everyone is totally missing the point. If medical insurance is not going to pay for Viagra, they shouldn't pay for birth control," No. Erectile dysfunction is an abnormal physiological condition. Being pregnant is not.

      August 9, 2010 at 20:04 | Report abuse |
    • cliff

      I thought Wisconsin was the home of "cheese" heads. Guess I was wrong.
      It is the home of "dick" heads!
      Gotta love thos stinkin' union folks.

      August 9, 2010 at 20:19 | Report abuse |
    • halapeno

      10111775,
      If the country is so damn broke then why are CEOs getting $27 million to quit their jobs like that guy at HP? Why aren't Republicans screaming for higher taxes on the robber baron bankers who are robbing the taxpayers and getting colossal bonuses with no one to stop them? Why are we still involved in two wars?

      It is blatantly sexist for women to get medication for their "problems" but for men to go wanting. Give the guys their Viagra so they can think better about themselves and do a better job.

      August 9, 2010 at 20:58 | Report abuse |
    • China Viagra

      In China, they don't take viagra. They just eat endangered species.

      August 9, 2010 at 21:15 | Report abuse |
    • KV

      what fiscal responsibility under Bush? And, this is a state Teacher's Union issue not a FEDERAL issue. Oops – you did it again. Women have had to fight for hormone pill coverage or THE PILL – which is not just about birth control but actual DISEASE control such as Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, Cysts, Fibroids, Endometriosis, just to name few. Unfortunately for the tens of million of women who use it for disease control, ease of symptoms, they get caught under the Old and outdated conservative rants that never focus on disease but birth control. Men should have to face the same hoops as women.

      August 9, 2010 at 21:41 | Report abuse |
    • Henry Miller

      'm sure the Dems will find money some where so they can continue with their union benefits."

      Yeah: Your wallet.

      August 9, 2010 at 22:36 | Report abuse |
    • Phil

      Middle age teachers need Viagra so they can have some fun around those teenaged high school girls. I can totally see it now.

      August 9, 2010 at 22:49 | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      Careful. You're just going to provoke the Bush bashers to travel back in time and say this problem has roots in the Bush administration. Bueh Bush Bush. Too bad he hasn't been president for over 18 months. But then Obama and his health care tax is going to spend our way out of this problem. In fact people as a hole have their hand out expecting the other guy to pay for what they way. I don't have to save any money, I can spend it on anything I want because Obama will pay for anything real needs I might have. Gimme Gimme Gimme.

      August 9, 2010 at 22:55 | Report abuse |
    • brian

      there's a distasteful comment in there somewhere about repubs and dems having at each other while they're both all hepped up on Viagra, but since you aren't for such activity then you don't get in on any of the fun...

      August 9, 2010 at 23:01 | Report abuse |
    • NH Scott

      I bet if we didn't spend well over $10,000 per American family on an illegal war based on lies about WMD that didn't exist, we could afford to have health care.

      August 10, 2010 at 00:57 | Report abuse |
    • mdyer

      Actually it's me and you who will be finding the money for their Viagra. And our pockets are deep, evidently. We pay for the darndest things!

      August 10, 2010 at 08:21 | Report abuse |
    • Molly

      A lot of Insurance companies don't cover ED medications because they don't see it as necessary. It's not medically necessary.

      There's no reason to keep Unions around anymore. There's plenty of Federal and Local laws that protect employees.

      August 10, 2010 at 09:19 | Report abuse |
    • Grimalkin

      Why not, Bill Clinton was a horny old white haired guy and a LEFTIST!!

      August 10, 2010 at 14:30 | Report abuse |
    • TRAVIS L. STEVENSON

      SoundsVERY fishy when some ADULT pervacators can only think with the wrong head instead of looking out for our children, which they hold hostage every day while we, who pay those very "peoples" salaries and retirement with the jobs we work to pay for those evildoers. A very vicious circle, brought to you by communist unions.

      September 30, 2010 at 23:10 | Report abuse |
  2. Frank A

    "..not offering the drug violated the Wisconsin Fair Employment Act.”

    You just can't make this stuff up. I understand the need, but there is no right to "get some".

    August 9, 2010 at 14:30 | Report abuse | Reply
    • cahtx

      I say that exact phrase almost everyday! You can't make up the crap that is going on today! This is almost as ridiculous as paying a city manager $800k a year in Bell, California! The New Jersey teachers and union are on the same level of pathetic and this one. Wake up! No, it is more like grow the f*** up! Fight for what is important and this shouldn't even make the list and shouldn't be a focus for 2 years!!!

      August 9, 2010 at 17:11 | Report abuse |
    • cliff

      If "it' won't stand...
      strike up the five-finger band!

      August 9, 2010 at 20:21 | Report abuse |
    • ThisIsStupid!

      NO health plan should pay for ED drugs! It's because of people who insist that their insurance pay for it that those of us who actually NEED medication to LIVE have to pay so much for it!

      August 10, 2010 at 09:44 | Report abuse |
  3. AngryMobVoter

    This is another example how unions especially public unions hurt the economy.

    REMEMBER IN November...VOTE THEM OUT!!!

    August 9, 2010 at 14:31 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Unimpressed

      Right. Let's vote out the unions so The People can lose MORE of their rights! GREAT idea!

      August 9, 2010 at 14:37 | Report abuse |
    • Leb

      If we didn't have unions, min. wage wouldn't have happened. If there hadn't been unions, factory conditions would still be turn of the twentieth century style, disgusting and dangerous. I could list lots more ways in which unions have affected how you work.

      Do you unions do stupid things? Of course. But they also have shaped the way the workplace is for every person, union or non-union in this country.

      August 9, 2010 at 15:33 | Report abuse |
    • Zebula

      Umm, if we didn't have unions, our jobs would not be going to China because it cost too much to keep them in America.

      August 9, 2010 at 15:37 | Report abuse |
    • Will

      Guess again, Zebula - there are NO unionized software engineering/programming jobs, but that isn't stopping those jobs from going to India either!

      August 9, 2010 at 15:44 | Report abuse |
    • Banker

      unions are a plague on the american economy and have no place within it

      August 9, 2010 at 16:05 | Report abuse |
    • poppedeye13

      Banker, I loved you comment, "unions are a plague on the american economy and have no place within it". If you truly are in the banking industry, I can't believe you have the testicular fortitude to open your mouth after the American taxpayers bailed out your industry for it's failed practices that only benefited the wealthy and left the rest of us to clean up the mess.

      If unions are so bad, why do businesses all join them? If you're really a banker, you probably belong to a union or two. The Chamber of Commerce is a union as is the American Bankers Association. You pay dues to be represented by the organization, just like union members pay dues to their unions to pay for representation.

      My union starts every meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance, does yours? My union wants better pay and benefits for workers while your union fights to keep my pay and benefits down. When my union succeeds, the community benefits. When your union succeeds, only you do.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:09 | Report abuse |
    • mark from minnesota

      Get the unions out of our schools, these money sucking jerks have no place in the schools. Wait I take that back they do a great job of taking our money

      August 9, 2010 at 17:59 | Report abuse |
    • Ken in TN

      I must be getting tired, I read that as "Bankers are a plague on the american econimy and have no place within it"

      ... and I was in total agreement.

      August 10, 2010 at 01:18 | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Your comment proves that an unimformed voter is a detriment to our country. Thank you for bringings us down just a few more notches. Clearly you understand little. Never underestimate the stupidity of the "Mob" especially and angry "Mob" that has been brainwashed by all sorts of clever propaganda. Voting them out in November will only replace them with un experienced politicians who used you to get into power. First rule of politics.....get into power...second rule of politics...maintain power. As long as you keep drinking their brand you will continue to be a their tool.

      August 10, 2010 at 02:17 | Report abuse |
    • Are you Stupid

      You must be stupid Angry Mob Voter, to get rid of unions is like throwing away the constitution,Why don't you just say it yor a Communist.

      August 10, 2010 at 09:11 | Report abuse |
    • angryStudent

      Unions are there own problem. Do we need unions? Yes. Is there a problem with our current unions? Yes. Should we re-evaluate our unions and make a lot of changes? Yes. Will any thing be done to change the stupidity in some unions? No.

      Ultimately unions work out like any other bureaucratic establishment; they have a lot of problems, but have become necessary. They started out with good intentions… then took it too far.

      August 10, 2010 at 09:20 | Report abuse |
    • AngryMobVoter

      What unions do is push up the costs of products for everyone and hold down the total number of jobs. Union members make a little more but it is at the expense of more unemployment and higher prices for all of us.

      The article shows exactly how ridiculous the demands of unions often are. What effect do you think paying for Viagra for all union members would have on the cost of healthcare?

      REMEMBER IN November...VOTE THEM OUT!!!

      August 19, 2010 at 14:34 | Report abuse |
    • seen it all

      Lett all americans contruibute. Like those making over one billion a year pay a flat 10% income tax. Do you think they would miss it?

      February 22, 2011 at 10:50 | Report abuse |
  4. Wes

    Maybe the Teachers start at $25k in Nebraska and thats good. Maybe those who whine about how teachers only work 9months out of the year and make so much should go get a degree to become a teacher. Go ahead and see how easy it is, go ahead.And also go for your masters(which you need) and the other degrees and than deal with 30+ kids in a classroom and than come back and talk.

    August 9, 2010 at 14:46 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kaya

      It is not the degree that is hard. It is one of the easiest degree courses. It is dealing with the 30+ kids that make it hard, and why most people won't do the job for so little money. If you choose this profession, you should look at the +'s and -'s. most people would not choose this. But they will complain about those that did.

      August 9, 2010 at 15:35 | Report abuse |
    • Walter

      Teachers know that they are going to get low pay when they get into the field. If they don't like it they should go into another field. Believe me, there are hundreds of unemployed teachers just graduated from college who would be happy to take that low paying job – and they wouldn't ask for Viagra either.

      August 9, 2010 at 15:36 | Report abuse |
    • Zebula

      Surely you're not bragging about getting a master's in education? It's a joke. That's why the pay is so low- the degree is meaninglesss, they're only paying you to babysit.

      August 9, 2010 at 15:40 | Report abuse |
    • justaguy

      I've always thot the educational and certification (including continuing recertification) requirements for teachers are pretty high for what the field pays (the total combensation package, not just the salary). Being a good teacher is a lot of work, takes a lot of time and committment and requires dealing with occasioanlly hostile parents with unrealistic expectations. School Boards are also sometimes hostile and unrealistic. But I can't agree that any industry has a right to have Viagra included as a covered benefit. This Milwaukee union is out of line holding out on this issue.

      August 9, 2010 at 15:41 | Report abuse |
    • BOAT

      Zebula, surely your masters degree is better, yeah?

      I wish I was getting paid like a babysitter... hell, I'd take $5 an hour per student! A conservative estimate would put my salary at about $250,000 per year!

      August 9, 2010 at 16:07 | Report abuse |
    • mfb

      regardless of the debate over teacher salaries, is it not true that those who accept teaching positions do so willingly knowing the salary, expectations and working conditions? this isn't the old Sovient Union (yet) – I don't recall hearing about anyone being rounded up and forced to accept a teaching position.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:13 | Report abuse |
    • Yeah Right

      We all know better than to do that.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:31 | Report abuse |
    • JON

      @BOAT I hope you aren't a math teacher because your conservative estimate is way off base. A conservative estimate would be:

      $5 per student * 25 students * 8 hours per day * 180 days per school year = $180,000

      None-the-less, that is still a decent salary.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:31 | Report abuse |
    • NomadicTR

      Zebula,
      Your ignorance speaks volumes about your knowledge of the teaching profession. My masters degree in education included grant writing, action research and publishing several academic articles. The classroom degree at any college is not very difficult or strenuous, but the practical application hours and internship hours are not something everybody is cut out for. What makes you such an expert?

      August 9, 2010 at 17:37 | Report abuse |
    • NomadicTR

      Zebula,
      I forgot to mention that I was taking care of all the requirements of my masters degree while I was teaching full time and fulfilling the responsibilities of my job.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:48 | Report abuse |
    • DirtyBob

      @Jon
      Your problem is the numbers you used in the math. Either that or you must live in one of the last places with decent class sizes. My wife this year has 38 kids at the start of the year.

      August 9, 2010 at 18:22 | Report abuse |
    • Really

      @ JON – You're kidding yourself if you think teachers work 8 hour days. Most teachers I know typically put in 10 hour days, plus hours prepping on the weekends. There's a lot of behind the scenes work that nobody ever sees.

      August 9, 2010 at 22:37 | Report abuse |
    • Mia

      Teachers know the pay scale before they become teachers. Most public education is crappy, anyway. And their starting salary may be 25K per year, but they sure can get some raises – and what about those prime bennies package of all kinds of insurance and retirement packages that us poor private sector schmoes can only dream about! And they don't have to shell out one thin dime for it. After a teacher is tenured, they can almost NEVER be fired. AND they get insurance for THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. So, let 'em pay for their own d*mn Viagra! Or, let them go get jobs at the private schools where you have to really know how to teach or you'll get fired. This article is just one more reason we need to get rid of public-funded edumacation and privatize all schools from Kindergarten through college.

      August 10, 2010 at 00:02 | Report abuse |
    • Mia

      Oh – and just because someone has a Masters Degree, doesn't mean they can teach anyone anything.

      August 10, 2010 at 00:03 | Report abuse |
    • Nicole

      For Mia-

      1) Teachers pay into their retirement monthly. For example, $500 is automatically taken from my monthly paycheck whether I want it to or not for retirement. And the amount depends on how much you make.
      2) Teachers are not tenured, professors are. It's not too hard to fire a teacher either. Sure, there are some hoops that one needs to go through but it can be done.

      Please get your facts straight or express them as 'opinions' since you have no idea of what you are talking about.

      August 10, 2010 at 01:12 | Report abuse |
    • mdyer

      The unions, including teachers unions, are bankrupting the cities and states, and they protect some of the worst workers. I was in AFSCME. I know. I'm not saying they haven't done good, but I think they're wrecking the professions they were organized for.

      August 10, 2010 at 08:31 | Report abuse |
    • angryStudent

      up to KAYA: I dare you to get a degree in something 'simple' like physics or chemistry then try and make it easy for a class of 30 students to understand with out pissing any parents off (How come my kid has a 'C' in your class... it's your fault they don't understand basic nuclear chemistry; wah'). Most people can't even survive general chemistry and you have the adasity to call teaching (which believe it or not for the science teachers like me requires that i take all the same courses as the chem. majors [inorganic, organic, thermodynamics, physical shemistry, quantum chemistry, physics, calculus, etc]) as easy? You are full of sh-t and living a lala land.

      August 10, 2010 at 09:25 | Report abuse |
  5. George K

    seriously... why should it be covered under thier works healthcare , would be a waste of tax dollars and people have lived with worse conditions, haveing ED only hurts ur ego not health or way of life...

    August 9, 2010 at 14:47 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Norm

      How do you know what effect it has on your life.
      Do you have it? I'm guessing not.

      August 9, 2010 at 14:51 | Report abuse |
    • Weiner

      I understand it can be frustrating for people with this but I saw some protesting posters that were a little much.

      "If you can't get it up, STAND UP...for your rights!"

      August 10, 2010 at 15:47 | Report abuse |
  6. Wes

    Maybe the Teachers start at $25k in Nebraska and thats good. Maybe those who whine about how teachers only work 9months out of the year and make so much should go get a degree to become a teacher. Go ahead and see how easy it is, go ahead.And also go for your masters(which you need) and the other degrees and than deal with 30+ kids in a classroom and than come back and talk. But the gettin the V pill, well its something that parents have the right to be upset about.

    August 9, 2010 at 14:47 | Report abuse | Reply
  7. Norm

    You can get these online at Net-DR for $10 each. That's still a rip off but better than losing your marriage.

    August 9, 2010 at 14:52 | Report abuse | Reply
  8. George K

    can u tell me how it effects your way of life.... what does it make u depressed and make u wanna take more puills , get a life and some selfworth and maybe there is more to life then having an errection.

    August 9, 2010 at 14:54 | Report abuse | Reply
    • DWheel

      That's awefully harsh. Having had an issue once due to medications I can tell you it does have quite an effect on your life, relationship, etc. I wouldn't call it life threatening and don't think it should be covered necessarily by insurance but when it happens you'll understand.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:01 | Report abuse |
  9. George K

    if ur wife isn't understanding about ur condition , then maybe u shouldn't have put a ring on it. unconditional love is part of marriage.

    August 9, 2010 at 14:56 | Report abuse | Reply
    • garc

      Not to mention the fact that most of the Viagra prescriptions are NOT requested (or encouraged by) the wives, in my experience, and I work in the medical field. It mainly seems to be guys who can't deal with getting older and women just going along with it to keep them happy.

      August 9, 2010 at 15:37 | Report abuse |
  10. Blake Hanson

    I have worked closely with many areas of education all my life, this is just a really silly story – "Violated the Wisconsin Fair Employment Act.” They have to be kidding, this story reflects very badly on teachers.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:01 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Maggie A

      Blake, I think the idea is to make teachers look bad. I have noticed an uptick in emotional, hate-mongering, negative stories about teachers. Anything to cause an uproar!

      August 9, 2010 at 15:36 | Report abuse |
  11. Concerned

    There are people in private industry losing their jobs. The economy is in the tank. I really appreciate teachers. Parents fail to teach their kids. They don't teach them values, good behavior, respect for elders, and then they blame teachers for poor performance. It really isn't fair. Teachers deserve a fair wage. They should be held accountable for performance, but their needs to be some other criteria other than standardized test scores.

    This Viagra thing makes teachers and their unions simply look terrible. In this economy, people are losing jobs in private industry. Their are union and non-union workers out of work. Governments coffers are empty. How can any union in good conscience try to get Viagra for it's members. There are some folks with legitimate medical problems, but lots use Viagra for recreational reasons.

    I can't believe tax money could be used for this. This should be laid on the Dems if it goes through. It is gross negligence and a shows how cavalier and frewheeling Democrats are when they are playing with other peoples money.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:27 | Report abuse | Reply
    • John

      So, you want to blame the Democrats because a Teachers Union is asking for Viagra. The Democrats no more control the message of the Teachers Union, than the Republicans control the message of the Westboro Baptist church. The union has the right to ask for whatever it wants, it's up to the elected officials on the School Board or some other governing body to refuse it. If they don't refuse it, then replace them.

      August 9, 2010 at 15:50 | Report abuse |
    • cliff

      John says, "The Democrats no more control the message of the Teachers Union."
      Show me ONE union that is not controlled by DemoCraps.
      I know a number of GOOD TEACHERS who left education because of belonging to the union and finally getting fed up with their actions.

      August 9, 2010 at 22:49 | Report abuse |
    • Are you Stupid

      I am just gonna say it, ALL POLITICAL PARTIES ARE RUINING THIS COUNTRY. DEMS BECOMING TOO LIBERAL WITH GUN AND AMMO CONTROL, REPUBS WITH GIVING TAX BREAKS TO COMPANIES TO SEND AWAY OUR JOBS.

      August 10, 2010 at 09:54 | Report abuse |
    • Are you Stupid

      Also personally though Repubs are the worst of the bunch, Rob from the Poor give to the Rich, thats there moto.

      August 10, 2010 at 09:56 | Report abuse |
  12. Leb

    This makes teachers look real bad. I am one. And trust me I would not fight for this drug if it were my area. I have a feeling in this case that it's a small, but vocal group of union people who are for this. You do not have a right to an erection through public funds. Sorry.

    It's different if their health insurance didn't cover antibiotics or expensive perscriptions, but VIAGRA? Get your priorities straight.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:27 | Report abuse | Reply
    • GwT

      Then why is it a valid use of public funds to cover birth control pills? Not only that, in the school district that I work in, hormone therapy for women is covered, but if I as a male end up having any problems concerning my prostate, it's not covered. High blood pressure meds are not covered. But, since the majority of employees are female, they're darn sure to fight for their rights to have unprotected sex with no prophylactics. Is that a medical issue? No, it's not. Is the issue any different because the genitalia are different? No, it isn't. Hence the appeal to the Fair Employment Act.

      August 9, 2010 at 18:43 | Report abuse |
    • Jess

      GwT, your ignorance is astounding. Go take 5 seconds to research the real, in some cases life threatening medical conditions birth control pills are used to treat. And, would you rather pay for birth control, or unwanted kids?

      August 10, 2010 at 08:50 | Report abuse |
  13. MJ

    Gigi, Unions are always Dem supported

    August 9, 2010 at 15:28 | Report abuse | Reply
    • garc

      Bob Dole was the poster boy for Viagra, remember?

      August 9, 2010 at 15:36 | Report abuse |
    • Kerry

      Hey Garc – Bob Dole didn't ask the taxpayer to pay for it. The point here is that teacher's unions are public entities supported by taxpaying citizens, most of whom get paid a lot less and don't have anywhere near the health insurance coverage. Let them buy their own Viagra. And get their insurance in line with the rest of ours.

      August 9, 2010 at 16:21 | Report abuse |
    • GwT

      "Let them buy their own Viagra." Then let female teachers buy their own birth control pills. What's good for the goose...

      August 9, 2010 at 18:45 | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      MJ,
      Big businees is always supported by Conservatives. This is better? So each side has support. Balance? It is easier to blame a union becuase a member could be a nieghbor. It's harder to go after the corporation especially when they keep lowering the price of that big screen tv in your livingroom and whisper in your ear that as long as you keep buying everything will be ok.

      August 10, 2010 at 02:22 | Report abuse |
  14. Leb

    Correction. One teacher union wants this drug. There are thousands of district unions in this country. Only one wants this. Is it stupid? Most certainly. But please don't blame responsible people for one obviously crazily run union.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:29 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Steven P

      ...and every darned one of those unions is fighting "for" the teachers which, in my opinion, necessitates less to the school, the students, and the school district.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:38 | Report abuse |
    • Energizer Bunny

      I duuno, but I'm getting a teaching certificate and moving there. A number of them must be getting close to retirement.

      August 9, 2010 at 20:36 | Report abuse |
  15. Scott

    Look at it this way. Marriages have been broken because of a non-existant sex life. Not being able to get an erection will slowly but surely destroy your marriage, and more than likely lead to divorce.

    I think they teachers union should fight for viagra to be covered by their insurance, but if they don't get it, then drop it and move on. Being a teacher means putting your students first. Education is alot more important, and the teachers are on the front lines of our childrens education.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:34 | Report abuse | Reply
  16. garc

    I wonder if they're fighting that hard to get birth control pills/options covered. Somehow I doubt it.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:35 | Report abuse | Reply
    • fair

      garc... isn't not covering viagra a form of birth control?

      August 9, 2010 at 18:11 | Report abuse |
  17. Tough Love

    Just another example of the "entitlementmentality" common with all Civil Servants.

    The ONLY soultion is to outsource 90+% of them. This STOP digging the pension hole bigger, and ends ridiculous issues such as Viagra entitlement as well.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:35 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ian

      Entitlement extends way beyond civil servants. Corporate execs feel entitled to millions when they step down. Politicians, actors, athletes feel entitled to their power and extravagant lifestyles. U.S. citizen's feel entitled to a better standard of living than their neighbors. Outsourcing civil servants is the most moronic thing I have heard in a long time. The pension issue is the fault of state legislators and governor's as well as a bad economy. Stop blaming teachers for the pension problems. A lot teachers are losing them as well as their jobs due to mismanagement at the state level and its people like you who revel in that. Shame on you.

      August 10, 2010 at 02:29 | Report abuse |
  18. Waterfalls

    I support teachers AND unions, but they need to learn to "pick their battles." This makes them look ungrateful for the health and retirement benefits they do have. I know teachers are underpaid and don't get the respect they deserve, but this sort of thing hurts "the cause."

    August 9, 2010 at 15:37 | Report abuse | Reply
  19. EBGB

    Ahh, so this union is having trouble with their ability to screw the public.....too bad

    August 9, 2010 at 15:37 | Report abuse | Reply
  20. jmbfrommilwaukee

    In Milwaukee, the public school system is one of the WORST in the nation. There are plenty of these public schools that can not get text books. Sports, music, theater, and other extra classes are being cut out. Now cutting more of these classes and taking MORE from our children, so teachers can have erections is justified?? I don't think so. If your a teacher and you need Viagra, go get a summer job....IM NOT WILLING TO PAY FOR IT!!

    August 9, 2010 at 15:38 | Report abuse | Reply
  21. Snaporaz

    If they lose the prescriptions under their health benefits, perhaps they could cover them with a Staff Development Grant!

    August 9, 2010 at 15:38 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Don

      Wow, you win...that was hilarious! 🙂

      August 9, 2010 at 16:56 | Report abuse |
    • rspazy

      Hoo..good crowd, good crowd!

      August 9, 2010 at 19:29 | Report abuse |
  22. hjs3

    Of course we all know that's a lousy carpenter that blames it on the tools....:-)

    August 9, 2010 at 15:40 | Report abuse | Reply
  23. Mike

    Its not just one that wants it. Its one that's detailed here. Everyone knows WHY union benefits are called "CADILLAC PLANS". This is just one more bit of proof that unions need to be busted and NOW!

    August 9, 2010 at 15:42 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Jessica

      unions arent the problem – people are. (isnt that the standard thinking of gun supporters? it's not the guns that are problems, but the people who use them...right?) stay consistent people...you lose your credibility if you dont.

      August 9, 2010 at 16:54 | Report abuse |
    • Mike #2

      Jessica,
      Unions are made of people... When we start using people as weapons your argument might be valid.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:48 | Report abuse |
    • UNIONSHaveBankruptedAmerica

      This isn't a health insurance issue. It isn't a Dem/Republican issue. This is a UNION issue. Unions have held employers, governments and citizens of America hostage at every turn for the last century. Unions’ usefulness evaporated with the creation of OSHA to help ensure safe working conditions. Every other intent of any union is based purely on greed and self-indulgence.

      Unions’ gluttony and ravenousness self-serving demands have produced a society of selfish entitlement and mediocrity that has bankrupted our country and our competitive will.

      The Milwaukee teacher’s union has once again proved their obsolescence and absurdity for their existence.

      As a parent and grandparent I am much more concerned about a teacher’s ability to teach and inspire our youth than if he can get a hard on.

      August 9, 2010 at 20:13 | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      To UNIONSHaveBankruptedAmerica
      You are sadly misinformed as to the function of unions in our country especially when it comes to teacher's unions. Your assertion that unions hold our country hostage is irationally hostile and inaccurate. You should seriously read up on labor history although given your hostile tone you would dismiss it as liberal propaganda. OSHA does not cover all working conditions such as maternity leave or child care. Your claim that union intent is "purely" based on greed and self-indulgence is absurd. Greed and self indulgence are the cornerstones of successful capitalism. Look at the compensation packages of executives in this country. Look at the amount of corporate special interest money that flows into Congress to support legislation favorable to big business at the expense of the working class. Everyone regardless of union membership desires higher pay and better benefits. It is foolish to think that people work in the "real world" soley for altruistic reasons.

      Crappy Administrators, awful parents, ignorant schoolboard members create the climate of mediocrity you speak of. While I disagree with this union's approach to the viagra issue it is unfair to attack all unions as you have done.

      "As a parent and grandparent I am much more concerned about a teacher’s ability to teach and inspire our youth." I agree with you on this one. However No Child Left Behind doesn't care about good teaching only data generated on a multiple choice exam. That is our current measure for academic success. Until you fix that, ignorant people like you will keep blaming the unions when you should be blaming bad parenting, bad school administrators and bad government.

      August 10, 2010 at 02:11 | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Businesses used to offer the same "Cadillac Plans" to their employees. However, to cover the cost of the golden parachutes of their executives when they run off. They stopped given employees perks so they could buy multiple homes, fly the jet for personal use and hand all their cronies the best paying jobs in the company. Corporate greed and excess is the cause of the problem. They blame unions so that the people will turn on each other while they walk away with billions. Wake up. Capitalism flows to cheap labor anyway. Tell me if you could have 100 employees and make 100% profit having your compnay here in the U.S. or 1000 employees overseas for the cost of 100 here and 500% profit. what would you do? I bet you would outsource every time.

      August 10, 2010 at 02:35 | Report abuse |
  24. Will

    The fact that you consider $13000/year (or $25000/year, for that matter) a reasonable wage says more about you than it does about them.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:42 | Report abuse | Reply
  25. Hm

    What if it has nothing to do with ED and a teacher just looking for ways to sell pills to kids w/o parents knowing about it?

    August 9, 2010 at 15:44 | Report abuse | Reply
    • anvenger206

      I see your education (or lack thereof) was wasted.

      August 9, 2010 at 18:07 | Report abuse |
  26. jon

    Go for it – Milwaukee Teachers! Then you will be better at demonstating things in the sex education classes.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:46 | Report abuse | Reply
  27. kowa

    Pretty sad how spoiled our teachers unions are now days. And the democrats are going to bale them out for their votes and care less about the deficet.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:50 | Report abuse | Reply
    • BOAT

      As a teacher, I can speak to how spoiled we are in terms of benefits... it only took me four months of fighting to a part of my chemotherapy covered by our insurance.

      August 9, 2010 at 16:17 | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Pretty sad but not surprising how little you know about teacher's unions.
      "And the democrats are going to bale them out for their votes and care less about the deficet."
      The current administration is extremely weak on education and not supportive of teacher unions. Pay attention. The guy you hate is pushing private schools and charter schools. Once the corporations control education there will be no oversight into what our children learn.

      What about how the conservatives that lead us into war and drove up our deficit? Wars are free you know...

      August 10, 2010 at 02:43 | Report abuse |
  28. BOAT

    I'm a teacher who works 9 months a year... 60 hours a week for 40 weeks. That's 2400 hours in a year. That's an incredibly light workload compared to the average 40 hours per week for 50 weeks a year!!! Gosh, we are all so lazy... especially since we aren't required to have college degreeS, licenses (that require even more unpaid hours for renewal), or have to deal with little human beings who have minds of their own.

    The best part of the job is when parents expect you to raise their children for them! Lord knows that little Johnny can't learn the alphabet at home. Little Lisa should rely on the schools to teach her how to count!

    Good thing it's the summer, I can take a break from sitting in my mansion to drive the Mercedes to my box seats at the opera. It's hard to find places to spend my big salary. Fortunately, I didn't have to spend any of it on my chemotherapy since I only had to fight for 4 months to get the state health insurance to cover a portion of it. Good thing I had your 'terrorist organization' to help.

    That being said, Viagra is overboard and I think many teacher unions are a sham. Just please, don't be so quick to judge a the profession. Just because someone went to school does not mean they know how to run one.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:50 | Report abuse | Reply
    • OAR

      It's time to row!

      August 9, 2010 at 17:31 | Report abuse |
    • OAR

      Row faster!

      August 9, 2010 at 17:32 | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      Oh right now I have NO VACATION...so I work 12 months and might clear 40k after med and taxes... and putting in close to 50 hrs a week.. I can't afford my wife's bipolar medication because it is $400 up front just for 1 not to mention the other for just over 100.per month. I have previous 401k's but not right now and upon retiring you can stil substitute, I know I saw the music teacher in the district I just moved from do it, and still get his full pension plus his sub pay.

      August 9, 2010 at 20:25 | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      I forgot to mention that I have Bachelors degree... and will only get 5 days of vacation after 1 yr.wait I still owe for student loans.. Currently NO paid HOLIDAYS

      August 9, 2010 at 20:38 | Report abuse |
    • Augsbee

      Scott, most companies only give you 5 vacation days after 1 year of employment and some employees are required to work holidays.

      August 11, 2010 at 10:28 | Report abuse |
    • DownwithDems

      The smartest thing the teachers could do would be to drop the union all together. It seems unions are only good for helping a few and screwing the rest. If teachers want this black cloud lifted off them it would be wise to drop the union that continues to make some people genarlize them as a whole. The teachers union has literally done nothing for teachers.

      August 9, 2010 at 23:01 | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Some of the dumbest comments of the evening for sure.
      "The smartest thing the teachers could do would be to drop the union all together." Having a union is what protects me from terrible decisions made by administrators and shcool boards that don't have backgrounds in education. The union also provides legal protection against irrational parents (they do exisit). "It seems unions are only good for helping a few and screwing the rest." If you actually understood how union worked you wouldn't make this comment. "If teachers want this black cloud lifted off them it would be wise to drop the union that continues to make some people genarlize them as a whole." Unfortunately most of the black cloud comes from the ignorant masses who don't understand unions the role of labor history and what unions have done historically to provide benefits to the working class. "The teachers union has literally done nothing for teachers." Teacher's union has fought for competitive wages in my area given the level of education required to teach and secured reasonable health care benfits for its members. Clearly you are uninformed.

      August 10, 2010 at 04:51 | Report abuse |
    • mark

      And that the students where taught .. I know your job is hard I have worked with kids in my wood shop and they come to me in the senior year and can't read a ruler . With a grade point of 350 or higher . We have to start with a basic math just so they can do anything except sweep and not that well either .. It has come to me its laziness

      August 10, 2010 at 05:17 | Report abuse |
  29. DanW

    We need three months off to rest up from having to deal with you not disciplining your little b@stards!

    August 9, 2010 at 15:52 | Report abuse | Reply
  30. Mikey

    Teacher's unions are chief source of state budget deficits, healthcare (Viagra) pension, lack of accountability, when are people going to wake up.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:52 | Report abuse | Reply
    • anvenger206

      exactly. And then lets move on to why I have to pay taxes for your kids to go to school! If I wanted kids, I would have had one!

      August 9, 2010 at 18:09 | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Mike, the pension issue isn't the fault of teachers. Teachers pay into their own pensions and usually at a high percentage of salary. State governments and local school boards contribute next to nothing toward teachers retirements and haven't for almost a decade. Get your facts straight you troll and stop believing all the anti-union hype that certain politicians and business groups (special interest union) use to mislead the public.

      August 10, 2010 at 01:40 | Report abuse |
  31. MK

    Shouldn't teachers get paid good salaries? Doesn't it make sense that people who are entrusted with the education of our citizenry, the very thing upon which every successful democracy rests, get paid as much as your average businessman or lawyer? People like to complain about the ineptitude of teachers, and yet when the time comes no one wants to pay them the type of salaries that would bring in the best and brightest into the most important profession in our society.

    Regarding the union's fight for viagra, unions within almost every profession that is highly unionized sometimes fight for really silly things. It is an example of people fighting for the wrong things because they can't win fights for the right things, and it is an example of very inept leadership that is indicative of many unions, within many professions, across the country. But to generalize the entire profession of teachers or their unions based off of this nonsense is simply, well, nonsensical.

    As far as the old "nine-month" routine...first off, if you account for the time-off into the pay for teachers, that basically only would raise our salaries to levels that would be comparable to say, well, any average person with an undergraduate college degree, if not less (just look up the starting salaries for engineers with a BA). And to add to that, I can guarantee you that no one, save maybe doctors and lawyers, is working more hours than teachers do during the school year. My wife is now doing her residency as a doctor and her hours are about exactly what mine are as a teacher, except that in three years when she's finished she will be making about 3x as much money as I do.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:53 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Heywood Jablowme

      Stop whining. Sure, let's pay teachers 3x what they get paid now, I have no issues with that, on the one condition we get to layoff 2/3 of them. You don't think taxpayers are burdened enough, Einstein? We as taxpayers are through footing the bill. I say we pay teachers $80k a year and privatize the damn system. Problem solved.

      August 9, 2010 at 19:27 | Report abuse |
    • UNIONSHaveBankruptedAmerica

      MK – Yes of course teachers should be paid a good salary. I am sorry to say that their low rate of pay is due mainly to teachers’ UNIONS creating a bad taste in taxpayers’ mouths. Teachers only have UNIONS to blame for their low salaries.

      The issue in this article is not whether teachers deserve a good salary. This article is about whether taxpayers should pay for YOU to get a boner or not.

      August 9, 2010 at 20:19 | Report abuse |
    • BOAT

      You know, the more I think about it... screw the unions. It is kind of disgusting how a lot of teachers are not held accountable... it seems like the teahers that are posting are the ones who actually do the job.

      August 9, 2010 at 22:15 | Report abuse |
    • BOAT

      To get back to the point... the little blue pill has it's ups. Nobody wants a teacher that goes home with his head drooping. Its just bad mojo. Its this pill or anti-depress meds for droopy Richard.

      August 9, 2010 at 22:40 | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Wow. You are quite dense. Low salaries are not the fault of unions. Without the union in my area the local businees folks on the school board would advocate 10 bucks and hour and no benefits since all we do is babysit. Low salaries stem from the perception that teaching is women's work and therefore they don't have to be paid well since they are caregivers anyway. In the past people didn't have to have a lot of education to be a teacher. Now days most states require a 4 year degree in a content area and a master degree or equivalent in teacher preparation.

      August 10, 2010 at 05:02 | Report abuse |
    • mark

      I wonder if anyone checks the union books to see if they have any money left in there for there members . I have found that most of them are thieves . Now im not saying all of them

      August 10, 2010 at 05:06 | Report abuse |
  32. Mary Channell

    Do they pay for birth control, pills? depo shot? If not, Viagra should not be considered!!!

    August 9, 2010 at 15:54 | Report abuse | Reply
  33. madmatt

    So because the citizens were too dumb to go get a higher education, the teachers should earn less? Why don't you go find somebody dumb enough to teach for $12 k a year and then show us how much smarter your kids get.

    August 9, 2010 at 15:55 | Report abuse | Reply
  34. Ma

    Do they pay for birth control? pills? depo shot? If not, Viagra should not even be considered!!! Why do we support male sexuality and not female?

    August 9, 2010 at 15:59 | Report abuse | Reply
    • GwT

      Again, since 90% of the employees are female, birth control pills ARE covered under prescription plans.

      August 9, 2010 at 18:48 | Report abuse |
  35. james

    Don't you know that when you're in a room full of out-of-control first graders and you need to get it together fast, a good stiff bone-r can help you think clearly and control that room in no time.

    If they get this it's worse than the Obama giving the UAW GM as thanks for getting him elected.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:03 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ian

      In case you haven't noticed the car companies have paid back the loans they took out and after some consolidation of brands which was seriously needed they are improving and making money. Those darn unions....

      August 10, 2010 at 02:46 | Report abuse |
  36. Doug

    This topic has hit a raw nerve. I'm a prostate cancer survivor. Viagra (or one of those – like Cialis etc) is necessary for recovery after surgery. Some folks need it for the rest of their lives. Others are lucky and may need it for only 2 years. But most insurance doesn't cover it.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:04 | Report abuse | Reply
    • jmbfrommilwaukee

      Seeing as children cant get a job let alone another job, to make sure they are supplied with the education that they deserve your point is mute. To take away from HUNDREDS of children to benefit yourself is selfish. I understand that you may need it to recover from a surgery (which i guarentee will be a SMALL percentage of the prescriptions), you need to find another way to pay for that medication. Instead of taking from our children even more, then what has already been stolen from them. Take the "break" you have as a teacher, and get another job. It's called being selfless, maybe take a decrease in pay. Either way, you need to find another way to pay for it. We as taxpayers should not have too.

      August 9, 2010 at 16:13 | Report abuse |
    • BOAT

      jmbfrommilwaukee, okay, don't pay for the blue pill. After a lack of sexual activity speeds the rate of testosterone loss (which is impacted by cancer treatment) you can pay for the testosterone replacement therapy!!!

      Do some research... if you don't use 'em they get lazy.

      August 9, 2010 at 16:33 | Report abuse |
    • Jessica

      Doug – I would think if it were prescibed for something OTHER than getting an erection, it would be covered...or if there's an alternative available? But even if it isnt – do you think you are by yourself in this boat? My partner has Multiple Sclerosis (had been diagnosed for 9 years) and we've seen her coverage go from amazing...to piss poor, and its the same provider, same employer...everything. I hope you werent one of those fools believing the GOP that we dont need health care reform. Id say your example and mine, should tell us what we need to know...the system is failing us.

      August 9, 2010 at 16:48 | Report abuse |
    • Jessica

      Of course Doug – I have to wonder, what is it needed for? Does it improve your recovery from cancer – or improve your ability to get it up and get on with life? If its the later...perhaps being grateful youre still alive should put your priorities in perspective (though I doubt it does). We all have choices to make – if an erection is that improtant, spend your own damn money.

      August 9, 2010 at 16:52 | Report abuse |
    • wolfmama

      It sounds like Doug might need the prescription for medical, rather than recreational reasons. It doesn't make sense for others to be angry with him because of their lack of coverage (or lack of coverage for those they love). I am pretty sure Doug is not the bad guy here.

      August 9, 2010 at 17:09 | Report abuse |
    • anvenger206

      Doug: I work in RADONC with Prostate Brachytherapy. I know exactly where you are coming from, and it should be covered for you. If not, it is simply another failing of our health care industry. We are in sore need of reform.

      jmbfrommilwaukee: if you have kids it is up to YOU to give a little extra and be selfless! Put your kids first and step in to be a parent for once!

      August 9, 2010 at 18:17 | Report abuse |
  37. brad

    Let's see: condoms for the kiddies, Viagra for teachers. What about the mind? Best leave that to the home-schoolers. They are graduating from (secular, if that matters) universities in very significant numbers.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:04 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ian

      Oh dear not another home school advocate. In my experience home schooled kids are very good at certain academic subjects but lack proper social skills to work in groups with others or manage difficult social situations. Add in a heaping dose of religious indoctrination and you have completely normal well adjusted citizen's once they get unlocked from their bedrooms at age 25.

      August 10, 2010 at 02:51 | Report abuse |
  38. ohspareme

    As soon as the union fights for fertility treatment coverage, I'll stop thinking this is phenomenally stupid.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:09 | Report abuse | Reply
  39. Dave Theriault

    Don't you people have anything else to do? Get a life!!!!! You are all nuts.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:12 | Report abuse | Reply
    • jmbfrommilwaukee

      You are in the same place, doing the same thing we are.....so all in all....look in a mirror chief.

      August 9, 2010 at 16:15 | Report abuse |
  40. TFBuckFutter

    Perhaps the teachers would benefit from some abstinence education.

    Sorry teachers, I recognize how important a part of life sex is, but just because a product is made by a pharmaceutical company and requires a prescription doesn't mean it's medicine. I'm sure plenty of bald men consider having hair to be a quality of life issue. Doesn't mean Propecia and Rogaine should be covered. You want hair, you pay for it. You want sex, you pay for it.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:12 | Report abuse | Reply
  41. Adam

    The simple solution is to make them choose between Viagra and their jobs. Times are tough in the current public education system...how stupid are these people? There's a time and a place for everything...now is not the time to be making petty demands. This is why unions are all fail.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:16 | Report abuse | Reply
  42. Karpe

    People, please don't complain about the municipal unions, join them instead! We will all have more benefits and time off if we stick together and fight the private sector until we can shut them up. We're tired of hearing them complain about high taxes.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:18 | Report abuse | Reply
  43. cjr

    give me a break – I guess these folks don't really need a job. I would encourage the school board in Milwaukee to fire all them – their priority should be teaching and not their sex lives.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:21 | Report abuse | Reply
  44. JS

    Teacher and Viagra sounds like a deadly mixture! Let's give it only to those who 'actually' teach! Most of them these days waste time and resources doing nothing worthwhile at school!

    August 9, 2010 at 16:23 | Report abuse | Reply
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    August 9, 2010 at 16:24 | Report abuse | Reply
  46. Angela

    Dan W? You should be fire!!! It's teachers like you, that are completely a waste of my tax payer money. I have no problem paying for teachers that are worth it, but you sir are a disgrace. Without those little, as you call them "bas*&ds" you wouldn't have a job. You're pathetic.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:30 | Report abuse | Reply
    • sparknut

      I see that your English classes didn't go very well.

      August 9, 2010 at 19:13 | Report abuse |
    • Augsbee

      Very well said Angela.

      August 11, 2010 at 10:25 | Report abuse |
  47. SillyConMilly

    Taxpayer's should pay for erections now? Seriously? Getting off is really this important? If men would place more emphasis on being fathers than in becomming fathers, all children would be better off. And by the way, guys: an erection is required for your pleasure, not hers, so quit making this an issue about pleasing the women.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:30 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Undereducated redneck

      Very well said! I couldn't agree more-and yes I am a guy. very good post.

      August 9, 2010 at 16:36 | Report abuse |
    • C casey

      Outstanding!! Her pleasure is just fine all by herself..and fun to watch..

      August 9, 2010 at 17:57 | Report abuse |
    • ArmyChic

      Amen! Amen!

      August 9, 2010 at 20:46 | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Would you rather taxpayer pay for an erection or bomb that "mistakenly" kills children overseas?

      August 10, 2010 at 02:53 | Report abuse |
  48. Andagain

    Hokey POKEy ! (chortle)

    August 9, 2010 at 16:31 | Report abuse | Reply
  49. AGeek

    BOAT: Cry me a freakin' river. I've got degreeS. I work 55+hr/week, 51weeks/year, like MOST folks. And *WE* don't have a eff'in' union to run off crying to when our salaries get cut. Buck up, pal. Everyone's in the water. If you're in the water and pi$$ing on everyone else's head, you're not likely to find anyone sympathetic.

    August 9, 2010 at 16:33 | Report abuse | Reply
    • BOAT?

      I have worked fast food, housekeeping, delivery, in an office and at a gas station. I understand what it is like to get paid nothing and have no benefits. I have been there, I get it. I don't want a cookie or a hug for it either. Having said that, it seems unlikely that you have ever been in charge of the education and safety of large groups of diverse and independently thinking children. Non-teachers don't think about dealing with Suzy being touched by dad or Johnny not having eaten for 3 days. Have you ever had to convince a teenager not to join a gang? It is much more than just spewing facts. Again, I don't want a hug, I just want you to think about it for a moment.

      I agree that there are many terrible teachers and that many unions abuse their power protecting said hacks. All I ask is you walk a mile in our shoes before passing judgement. Not all of us are in it for the 'perks' but I challenge you to find someone who will do the job for 20k and I will show you someone that you won't want anywhere near your children.

      August 9, 2010 at 22:02 | Report abuse |
  50. Undereducated redneck

    I think there should be an investigation into the people who started this drive for Viagra. Lotsa pedofiles in schools these days. What exactly does Viagra have to do with thier performance in a school setting? I'm just sayin.....

    August 9, 2010 at 16:33 | Report abuse | Reply
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