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February 25th, 2010
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When will we see a herpes cure?As a feature of CNNhealth.com, our team of expert doctors will answer readers' questions. Here's a question for Dr. Gupta. From Lloyd Bartley, Bowling Green, Kentucky “How close are scientists to developing a cure for herpes, figuratively speaking will we be seeing a break through in 10, 20, or even 30 years?” Answer: Well, Lloyd, there is good news and bad news on the herpes front. The good news: Researchers have made serious strides and now better understand the mechanism behind herpes outbreaks. The bad news: There is very little funding for that research. After receiving your question we reached out to a leading herpes expert, Bryan Cullen, the director at the Center for Virology at Duke University. Cullen is hopeful that a cure for herpes could come within 10 years, once funding hurdles are crossed. Nearly one in five people over age 12 in the U.S. is affected by herpes. It is caused by a virus - either the herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) or the herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2). Both strains can cause genital herpes, but HSV-1 usually infects the mouth and produces cold sores. Despite funding challenges, Cullen and his team are inching closer to a cure. They conducted a study recently that identified the pathway herpes takes as it infects. They now know how herpes embeds itself into the cells and how it eludes treatment. Now that they have honed in on the physiology of the disease - and its triggers - researchers believe they are steps closer to creating drugs that could cure herpes. While we wait for a cure, there are drugs out there that can at least suppress herpes. Three antiviral drugs: acyclovir, valacyclovir, and famciclovir are commonly recommended to quell outbreaks. A physician might recommend taking these drugs when an outbreak occurs to quiet symptoms; or taking them continuously to reduce the likelihood of an outbreak. And of course the best way to avoid spreading herpes is to abstain from sex, but if you are sexually active, engage in safe-sex practices such as using condoms. Editor's Note: Medical news is a popular but sensitive subject rooted in science. We receive many comments on this blog each day; not all are posted. Our hope is that much will be learned from the sharing of useful information and personal experiences based on the medical and health topics of the blog. We encourage you to focus your comments on those medical and health topics and we appreciate your input. Thank you for your participation. soundoff (8,772 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 Next »Leave a Reply to jason |
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Sweet, this is AWESOME news. A cure should be forthcoming and needs the donations from all of us. PLEASE, I IMPLORE ALL READERS. PLEASE PERIODICALLY CHECK OUT THE herpescurefoundation.org WEBSITE. PLEASE MAKE DONATIONS TO THIS WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION AND CONTINUE TO DO THE FOLLOWING:
1. DONATE TO CULLEN AT DUKE.
2. DONATE TO BLOOM AT FLORIDA.
3. WRITE THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH AND ASK FOR APPROPRIATE FUNDING TO ERADICATE THIS DISEASE.
4. CONTACT POLITICIANS AND LET THEM KNOW.
MORE THAN ANYTHING, DONATE AND GET INVOLVED. AS LONG AS WE SIT BACK AND FAIL TO GET INVOLVED NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. YES, PRAY BUT HELP YOURSELVES AND OTHERS BY GETTING INVOLVED. PART OF THAT IS DONATING. A BUCK A MONTH FROM ALL OF US CURES THIS THING IN 5 YEARS OR LESS!
I used to suffer from HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS for about 3 years. No medications or treatments ever really did anything for me (i tried them all no one work. but I was actually able to completely cure HERPES naturally after countless hours of online research. What worked for me is as follows: I saw Dr DAVID SCHAFFER Information online that he normally cure and treat disease and infirmities with his Herbal Medicine, I never really believed the people who where recommending him thou i saw on blog about 6 people where also testifying on how they were cured by Dr DAVID SCHAFFER, and still Ellen recommend Dr DAVID SCHAFFER who uses herbal medication to cure HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS and gave me his email, so i mail him He told me all the things I need to do and also give me instructions to take, which I followed properly.Before I knew what is happening after two weeks the HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS that was in my body got vanished. so if you are also heart broken and also need a help, you can also email him: davidherpesresearchteam@hotmail.com.if you are infected with any disease like HIV,AIDS, CANCER,HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS, or any other disease you can also be happy like me by contacting.....
Name: Dr David schaffer
Email: davidherpesresearchteam@hotmail.com
I“m given you 100% grantee, soon as you have getting in touch
with Dr david schaffer your problems will be solved accurately.
Thanks..
What?
herpescurefoundation.org?
Why do we need that site?
We have already sites like,
herpescureresearch.org and http://herpesisnormal.com/
and they don't accept donation to fund their sites they are very transparent,
they advice people to directly donate to duke and UF.
Accepting donation to fund a site? that is personal purpose, I guess not for charity.
By the way what is the purpose of herpescurefoundation.org?
I dont' get it.
Sweet/Michael,
That was a very pretty picture you used to try to suck people into donating. If I had herpes and couldn't cure it I would have donated for sure.
Herpes may be a virus but unless you are a researcher and looking at the virus all day long you and I do not know that herpes is a virus. We have only been told herpes is a virus and you seem to take that at face value. Please don't insult me by telling me people look at them all the time, if that was the case doctors and lab techs would look at the herpes virus in order to diagnose it.
Michael/Sweet you yourself said 50% of the American population has the virus. That's a lot of herpes out there that isn't being detected at all in test. Half the population is said to have herpes but the doctors and lab techs can't detect the actual virus in any one. SO NO WE DO NOT KNOW THAT HERPES IS A VIRUS.
Who knows what herpescurefoundation.com is. If I do not prove to you people there is a cure for herpes, you will be donating to these kinds of carrot scams for the rest of your life. The only thing that will produce a medical cure is competition. If I can get validation for existing cures for herpes, medicine will have no choice but to market the dozens of drugs they already have that can and will cure herpes.
And Sweet/Michael when I say True Cures is almost 100% consistent, I say so because it is almost 100% consistent. The only reason you are not cured right now, that is if you even have what is said to be herpes is because you haven't seen me yet. There is no miracle cure, there is your immune system and there are drugs. Your immune system is healthy consistent way to cure ANY pathogen while drugs are risky.
As far as Christianity goes, if God does exist and Christianity is His chosen religion the cure for herpes has been here since the beginning of man because God claims he has given us everything we need and that we should be like the lilies and the birds and let tomorrow take care of itself meaning don't even lay up for tomorrow which is what you are asking people to do and some people are falling for it. People you are like the birds in the sky and the lilies in the field, you have everything you need except the knowledge to use it.
There is absolutely no way for a pathogen to hide from our immune system unless our immune system is failing or weakened. There is no products that will boost or repair an immune system so this leaves out all medicine alternative and western. The "hiding" pathogen trick is an excuse for medicine to give those donating to it a reason why they can't cure herpes. It is a lie, and if a tree produces bad fruit it is a bad tree, so says the bible, but who care that the bible says, it is common sense.
You all can thank True Cures for any cure medicine might produce because without True Cures medicine has no incentive to produce cures. The difference between any futuristic drug to cure herpes and True Cures is the fact that the drug will only kill the family of fungus/herpes virus and True Cures will kill all various pathogens.
True Cures restores immunity which means it eliminates all deadly pathogens firstly and lastly it eliminates superficial pathogens such as herpes, and it will do all this in less than two weeks.
The reason there will be no medical cure right away is because there is no way to control a drug or medical treatment to just eliminate herpes. Herpes sores are caused by thousands of different pathogens which is why herpes test are not designed to pick up the offending pathogens. To cure herpes with a medical treatment or drug will mean curing a hundred other diseases and medicine will not do that. I hope you understood that, there are many different pathogens that cause OBs said to be herpes and this is why the herpes test are not designed to detect actual pathogens because that would let the cat our of the bag. Instead they run test that detect an immune defense and an immune defense happens whenever any pathogen attacks you.
I seriously doubt that there will be a medical cure for herpes until you people start getting cured outside of medicine, and to be cured now you do not need to donate unless you want to after you are cured.
truecures.com
GO AWAY DAVID FLOWERS
How do you sleep at night praying on peoples feelings???? you are a pathetic little man go take your scamming notes elsewhere
If you are affected by herpes, get involved. Make donations on a regular basis, write the NIH and ask them to provide funding for research.
Don't just sit back and accept it. Do something about it. As Confuscious said it is a fool who does the same thing expecting a different result.
Get involved and push for a cure...
Donate, donate, donate, donate, donate, donate, donate, donate, donate as Confuscious said "it is a fool who does the same thing expecting a different result." So we know donating doesn't make a difference or a cure. Donating is insane. Herpes is one of, if not the most profitable disease known to medicine so it's time you let them reinvest their profits and for you people to not only stop donating, but stop using the products because there is no evidence that the products make a bit of difference. That's right, the greatest herpes medications only beat out the placebo sugar pills by a thin margin and that is because the results are doctored.
As for emailing Obama, get over it. Get real. Use your common sense. Stop letting people play on your emotions, stop letting people rally you. Stop waiting for someone else to cure you. Stop putting your health in the hands of people who are getting filthy stinking rich off of diseases and suffering.
Why should Obama get involved with herpes when herpes is SUPERFICIAL and virtually harmless. Cancer is killing children as much as adults, heart disease and diabetes is deadly and running rampant and you guys want to contact Obama.
Michael, Martin and sweet are likely the same person doing on thing here, keeping you guys in line. As long as you donate you will feel like you are doing something as long as you email you will feel like you are doing something. It's time you take responsibility for your health. I don't want to cure herpes I want to cure heart disease, cancer and diabetes but believe it or not you cannot reach those people. They are much more isolated.
If you want a cure for what medicine calls herpes you better put your money away and use your common sense instead.
Cure yourself through your own immune system and then help me spread the word and make the media address the truth about cures.
truecures.com
Please send in an email to President Obama expressing our NEED to have a cure. Please let him know how we are affected and the other illnesses that are linked to HSV.
You can contact him at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/
It is an easy process and will take less than 5 minutes. Please do this. Ever heard the old saying, "it's the squeaky wheel that gets the oil?". Let's make some noise to the people who can and will make a difference!!!!!!!!!!!!
AICURIS is in need of people for a clinical trial to test their herpes treatment drug. They are offering trials in several major cities. This appears to be a powerful drug – kind of like valtrex on steroids.
Please google this and if you can participate, please consider. I believe it pays up to 2,000/individual and helps with the treatment process.
If you want a CURE, ACTIVELY GO AFTER IT, THRU MEDICAL RESEARCH. DUKE AND FLORIDA ARE WORKING ON A CURE. AICURIS HAS A POWERFUL SUPPRESSANT THAT STOPS MOST ALL SHEDDING. IRB BARCELONA, WORKING WITH MERCK HAS A POWERFUL DRUG THAT MAY STOP ALL OUTBREAKS AND VIRAL SHEDDING.
PLEASE CHECK INTO ALL OF THESE. CONTACT MERCK AND IRB BARCELONA. DONATE TO DUKE AND FLORIDA.
REMEMBER – WE HAVE TO HELP OURSELVES BEFORE ANYONE ELSE WILL. LETS DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Muchas gracias. ?Como puedo iniciar sesion?
WARNING!!!!! PLEASE DO NOT TRUST THIS DAVID FLOWERS/TRUE CURES.
IT WILL BE A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY. HE HAS SCAMMED MANY OTHERS IN THE FOLLOWING HUB:
http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/25/when-will-we-see-a-herpes-cure/
I guess this website wont let me send the actual link, so here we go:
http://hubpages(dot)com/hub/Herpes_Cure
This is just a bunch of herpes sufferers trying different protocols and posting the results.
@melody
don't worry we are not stupid, it's very obvious this David Flower is a scam.
A cure? impossible... only duke will get rid of this virus in the future.
this as just on cnn and the gave the links to
www. mineraldetox.com
and this site from riteaide's web page
http://www.cellularhealthnow.com/
I hope cnn will remove spam.
OH MY GOD! CROOKS ALL OVER!
THIS CELLULARHEALTHNOW/RESOLVE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SCAM AS WELL, THEY HAVE SCAM MANY ON THE OTHER HUB YOU CAN GOOGLE RESOLVE SCAM RIP OFF REPORT THEY ARE ALL OTHER THE RIP OFF REPORT. THERE IS NO WORLD TO DESCRIBE THESE TWO. RESOLVE AND TRUE CURES/TC SIMPLY DISGUSTING. AND WHENEVER THEY CAN NOT FIND ANYBODY TO SCREW OTHER ON A BLOG OR HUB BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW THEY ARE CON ARTIST THEY MOVE TO THE NEXT.
Ana, that's good.
Anna16 and everyone- I apologize for my bad English. English isn't my first language. I usually write better but I guess I was panicking and trying to warn everybody fast. You got the point. Good luck everyone, stay strong and keep an open mind.
Wow melody, How did they get The Head of Harvard medical School to do that video???
Hi Everyone
PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE IDIOTS AND SCAMMERS CLAIMING ON HERE THEY CAN NATURALLY CURE HERPES
If that was the case dont you think anyone from the medical profession would have listened to them??? Please there is no cure yet but we have good news I took this from an article ITS GOOD NEWS EVERYONE KEEP DONATING!!!!!
Researchers from UF’s College of Medicine received $50,000 in funding Sept 2010 to continue work that may lead to a drug used to prevent recurrent outbreaks of herpes in people who have the disease.
The award came from a somewhat unusual source: soft drink giant PepsiCo.
The UF research team, led by principal investigator David C. Bloom, Ph.D., a professor of molecular genetics and microbiology in the college, registered the research project with the Pepsi Refresh Project. The Pepsi Refresh Project is an online program that allows people to vote for their favorite goodwill ideas. Each month, Pepsi awards a total of $1.3 million to the organizers of the most popular projects.
The herpes research project received enough votes in June to land in the top 10 projects for the month and receive $50,000.
The research will focus on a ribozyme known to block infections of herpes simplex virus 1, which causes ocular herpes and cold sores. Bloom and his team will investigate whether the ribozyme can be used to stop patients who already have the disease from experiencing recurring outbreaks.
“I think the thing that makes this research so promising is that it is a new approach to herpes treatment and has the potential to be effective even in cases where a patient has a drug- resistant strain of the virus,” Bloom said.
Other members of the research team include Gregory Schultz, Ph.D., a Florida Research Foundation professor in the college; Alfred S. Lewin, Ph.D., Sonal Tuli, M.D., an associate professor of ophthalmology; and doctoral students Levi Watson and Dan Gibson.
Schultz said the ribozyme also can be adapted for treatment of herpes simplex virus 2, which causes genital herpes and some forms of ocular herpes.
He said many people carry the virus “latently in our neurons, but only a small percentage of people have problems dealing with the reactivation of those.”
Schultz said the team aims to “destroy the RNA that the virus needs to replicate.”
“Hopefully this is a way to add to or even replace current therapies that actually don’t effectively deal with the virus,” he said.
A PepsiCo representative expressed hope that the research would yield new treatments for those suffering from herpes.
The money from PepsiCo will allow the research team to test the use of the ribozyme in animals. If it proves to be effective, Schultz said the next step would be to find a pharmaceutical company to fund further testing needed before the treatment could be available to humans.
Jay, medicine will never intentionally cure herpes because they cannot patent the cure. That is why medicine has nothing to do with the cure for herpes, not alternative or western medicine. Now, see if you can behave and dispute my claims instead of attack my character.
And for the record there are meds that will already cure herpes and 8 out of 10 people here could get the medication if they new the truth about herpes.
So Jay, do you want to dispute my claim that medicine will not use a cure that cannot be patented or sold? Take a stab at it, please. Show us you are sincere and not just trying to scam people out of their money as you claim others are doing.
Just looked at the website and watched the video. I agree this is some ridiculous crap? Why do I need to wake up?
Well.... Guess how i got the virus?
It was one night out, on the town with some friends. Just last November actually, where one of my girlfriends dragged me into a toilet cubicle when we went to the bathroom together, and we started messing around. Little did i know she had Herpes HSV 2
She touched herself (genital area) and then touch my genital area.
It was like she was punishing me.
This was my FIRST woman on woman action, and i got the virus. I'm not even bisexual or lesbian, it was all curious harmless fun – which turned out to ruin my life forever.
To think that all the male partners i had prior to that night, were ALL virus free.
I will always live to regret that one night out with the girls.
Then i met a guy (whom i'm not married to) In December (a month later after the ordeal)
And after we had sex, thats when i had my first outbreak, and discovered that i had the virus.
He got the virus off me, so now the both of us are infected.
We got married in April, and have learned to deal with it, reluctantly.
He has now got it on his face, which is devastating. It's ruined our lives.
My husband works in the medical field, so is in hospital all week, imagine if he has a coldsore on his face at work?
He was formally a scientist and a pharmacist, and had done research on the virus, never would he ever imagine to contract the horrible virus – off me 🙁
I hate life, i can't understand why there is no cure.
My husband and i are working together to get a petition going.
If you care about a permanent cure, and a preventative vaccine for those who are uninfected, then please take a moment to sign our petition through this link: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
It's for a good cause, we care about the health of future generations aswell as all the existing sufferers.
Nobody understands how necessary it is but us, as we know what it's all about, and they all think it's a joke....
Let's change the world.
Well.... Guess how i got the virus?
It was one night out, on the town with some friends. Just last November actually, where one of my girlfriends dragged me into a toilet cubicle when we went to the bathroom together, and we started messing around. Little did i know she had Herpes HSV 2
She touched herself (genital area) and then touch my genital area.
It was like she was punishing me.
This was my FIRST woman on woman action, and i got the virus. I'm not even bisexual or lesbian, it was all curious harmless fun – which turned out to ruin my life forever.
To think that all the male partners i had prior to that night, were ALL virus free.
I will always live to regret that one night out with the girls.
Then i met a guy (whom i'm now married to) In December (a month later after the ordeal)
And after we had sex, thats when i had my first outbreak, and discovered that i had the virus.
He got the virus off me, so now the both of us are infected.
We got married in April, and have learned to deal with it, reluctantly.
He has now got it on his face, which is devastating. It's ruined our lives.
My husband works in the medical field, so is in hospital all week, imagine if he has a coldsore on his face at work?
He was formally a scientist and a pharmacist, and had done research on the virus, never would he ever imagine to contract the horrible virus – off me
I hate life, i can't understand why there is no cure.
My husband and i are working together to get a petition going.
If you care about a permanent cure, and a preventative vaccine for those who are uninfected, then please take a moment to sign our petition through this link: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
It's for a good cause, we care about the health of future generations aswell as all the existing sufferers.
Nobody understands how necessary it is but us, as we know what it's all about, and they all think it's a joke....
Let's change the world.
It seems the only option at this juncture is to rely on pharmaceuticals that suppress to varying degrees of success, depending on how lucky/unlucky you are
This is not good enough!
The problem with oral medication is that with pills the medication goes into the stomach and digestive track where a huge percentage of the drug is destroyed by gastric juices. It is then passed into the bloodstream where it circulates through the liver where it is metabolized (broken down) until there's nothing left of the drug to do the job properly. Getting the picture?
It's no coincidence that millions upon millions of dollars are spent each year on herpes medication, all of which will NOT cure the condition. This suits the Pharmaceutical companies as they are receiving the majority of this money. Since it is the Pharmaceutical companies that fund the majority of pharmaceutical research a cure for herpes would bring about an end to a global CASH COW that is only getting fatter. The smaller, but still considerable portion of the profits from suppressive medications goes to the government. The government just so happens to be the second biggest contributor to herpes research. Not unlike the pharmaceutical companies, governments stand to lose this income if a cure to herpes ever becomes available. Those of you suffering proactively would most likely know there are sectors of the private and academic research sectors working on finding the elusive herpes cure on minimal funding. They can be seen asking for money to further the research; this invites the opportunist to take money under this pretence. So who do we turn to? Who will find us a cure?
The answer.
Governments must be compelled to pour money into herpes research. Government has the power to force pharmaceutical companies to pour money into this research by raising taxes and levies on the suppressive medications. Why would Governments do this when they stand to loose a steady income? This is where we come into the picture. The only thing governments like more than money is VOTES. We, the public decide which political party gets to spend our tax dollars. We, the sufferers of this terrible affliction have the power to force the government to put money into herpes research. In a recent study conducted on herpes percentage in the general population, 50 participants were recruited from the general population in the age range of 19 to 71 years. Out of these, 19 were males and 31 females. All the participants were asked to provide blood samples and swabs of their eyes and mouth for 30 consecutive days. Results showed that 49 participants shed herpes virus HSV 1or 2 DNA at least once during the 30 day period while 37 participants tested positive for herpes virus; while just one participant did not shed at all. 3 participants shed the herpes virus in their tears but not in their saliva.
Statistically, 20% of every population (depending on demographics) will be suffering from symptoms of HSV. This represents a lot of votes, votes get results. By signing this partition, you will be showing yourself as a proactive sufferer of HSV, or a supporter of a good cause. This partition will be presented to parliament, together, we can make a difference.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
Hi I am sorry but there is HIV and AIDS out there which is far more worthy of funding than herpes because it is life threatening, do you not think governments think about this???
Unless you personally have herpes which I do, you can then only understand the mental anguish it can give you
Also count yourself lucky you have a partner some of us have nobody, also yes your story is unfortunate but other also are even more unfortunate take for example I get herpes on my nose how bad is that??? i read on here one person gets it all over his face constantly i thought I had it bad
You cant understand why there is no cure?? Its a virus we cant even cure the common cold
Jay
There are researches already trying to find a cure for aids, these days you can live up to 60 with aids, all you do is take the medication to prolong life.. I'm not sure how it works, but it's out there.
Herpes is painful, embarrassing and life changing, hence why I reinforce that we need a permanent cure, herpes can lead to aids apparently, or other forms of HIV, I could be wrong, just read that somewhere, if one has herpes, they are more susceptible to the aids disease.
I'm sorry to hear that you have it on your nose, try dyniclear.. It's the only think that works for me. Only need to apply it once and it gets rid of it within 24hours to 2 days. You need to apply it when the coldsore is at it's peak though, so when it's at it's worst. It stings like a bitch but it's worth it.
I found it at the pharmacy (very rare to find in most pharmacies, had to call around to see if they had it) and bought a pack of 12.
http://www.dynamiclear.com.au/
not gaining anything by posting the link, I'm not a promoter, just sharing the remedies which work for me.
I really need more votes for the petition, even if you don't agree, please take a moment to sign, we need to be rid off this virus forever.
If you leave a comment on here, copy and paste this link so that we get maximum votes .. It's not a donation page, all we ask is a signature for the petition to cure herpes in Australia
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
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@Jay and those of you bashing cures that can't be patented?
All of you holding your hands out asking for money with nothing in return but empty promises. The same empty promises these people have been living with for 75 years. That's right, the same medical scam donation campaigns have been shoved in people's faces praying on people fear and emotions convincing those suffering that their only chance for a cure is a product made by chemist that can be patented and sold for a premium. Nothing has changed. Jay and others who protect this grotesque racket are now attacking me when I do not take money from anyone unless they are cured and know they are cured while they sit and beg here for more and more money.
truecures.com is a science, not a medicine. The healingunderground.com is a place for people to discuss cures that can't be owned by medicine's patents. Jay has no understanding or concept of immunity, all jay and melody know is that they LOVE money and patents. Jay and Melody would like to see me banned and removed by CNN because they know True Cures is the end of their racket.
For those of you who want the truth about herpes, and I know there are many of you here, follow my post here and ask me questions and you will see that Jay and Melody have no disputes to my claims. You will see nothing but pure ugliness from them. If any of you are truly searching for a cure, talk to me here and see if you don't get cured. True Cures is a science of immunity but it isn't the only way to cure herpes. Show Jay and Melody that you are capable of making up your own minds and judge for yourself and I will do everything in my power to get you cured by my own work or by YOUR DOCTOR because he or she can cure you now.
If anyone wants to accuse me of spam, try to buy something from me. Try to pay me for anything. The only spam here is from the never ending medical scams asking you to give your money so the pharms can patent the next end all beat all herpes treatment that isn't any more effective than Valtrex or the 20 drugs before it.
I don't want to direct you people to prescription drugs to cure herpes because they won't allow you to test negative even though they will end all your suffering and you only need to take them for a few months. There is no way a drug will ever make a person test negative for herpes because drugs will not restore immunity so you will always have the antibodies. Restore immunity and you will no longer need the antibodies and they will die off.
Capping off the facts that Jay and Melody have tried to bury. There is no medical test that actually detects the pathogen said to cause herpes. Jay and Melody hate this fact and cannot dispute it. There is no evidence that herpes is a virus because there is no way for medicine to detect herpes in the first place. These are things you all need to know if you wish to understand why you are suffering and these sensitive facts are why Jay and Melody want me banned and why others have posted the same garbage and attacks against me on the internet. NO ONE can dispute my claims, if they could I would be arrested and proved a fraud.
When I was on the original Hub Page Herpes_Cure the University of Florida just collected 4.7 billion dollars from unsuspecting souls like you guys and here they are 20 billion more later asking for more. That's why people attack me. Cures cannot be patented and U of F will tank.
Cheers
http://hubpages.com/author/True+Cures/latest/
David seriously I will ask you again how do you sleep at night praying on vunerable people????
You and all your friends are SCAM ARTISTS, that is a FACT so please stop trying for people to visit your site of false hopes
I would rather donate to professional people trying to find a cure rather than in your sweaty devious palms
STOP trying to make out you are helping us all because your are only trying to get your next wage packet from all of us please stop posting on this forum your words are falling on deaf ears
That's good.... Post your name and concerns on our petition page instead of here, and spread the link so that we get more signatures.
We need as many as we can get, for a cure to change our lives ! Make us normal and healthy again!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/signatures
I also think posting on every Herpes dating website would be a good idea. My only concern is, if this is for the Australian government, are they gonna care about signatures coming from other place then Australia, maybe it would be a good idea to find a way to organize something worldwide.
Also I wanted to ad that You shouldn't feel as if Herpes ruined, at least you found love, which is the main issue when you are dealing with this disease unless your outbreaks are severe or frequent. I could care less about this virus if dating or finding love wasn't so difficult once you are infected.
Aids is far more serious and depressing then Herpes.
Herpes doesn't lead to Aids just like that but if you have herpes you have more chances to catch other diseases like HPV or HIV if your sexual partner is affected by one of these diseases.
Now True Cures alias David Flower- give me a freeking break
Did you offer your services to the members of the hub, yes or not? Yes.
Did they pay you, yes or not? Yes.
Are they cured, yes or not? No.
After they told you they were still have outbreaks, did you tell them it was fungus not outbreaks yes or not? Yes.
Melody SPIT.......
"Now True Cures alias David Flower- give me a freeking break
Did you offer your services to the members of the hub, yes or not? Yes.
Did they pay you, yes or not? Yes.
Are they cured, yes or not? No.
After they told you they were still have outbreaks, did you tell them it was fungus not outbreaks yes or not? Yes."
It's David Flowers not David Flower. True Cures is not an alias it is a science. David Flowers is not an alias it is my name, showing I am somebody where you are just a handle spitting insults hiding from the consequences of your behavior.
I saw in person 200 people from the hub page Herpes_Cure for curing herpes and ONLY three or four have complained of not being cured even though several where not cured but most where. You will only find Positiveenergies/blackNgold from the whole 200 plus people attacking me. Matter of fact, Melody, 10 to 1 you are blackNgold/Positiveenergies because you are saying the same things she has been saying. For the record, blackngold saw me under her handle Positiveenergies to see what I do and she pretended to have herpes the way melody is here and then she went straight to attacking me and banning me from her CureZone forum. That's right main attacker if melody isn't her here is a woman who banned me from her own forum the CureZone, a forum specifically for promoting and selling alternative products that True Cures exposes with every word. True Cures destroys the CureZone, a forum designed to promote gimmick alternative medicine.
Out of 200 plus people who say me, blackNgold/positiveenergies is the only one attacking me. 80 of the people from the hub are cured despite the fact that at the time I was just starting to learn the truth about herpes. That's right, when I saw them I didn't have any understanding of the OBs called herpes and still was able to cure 75% or more of the people I saw from the hub. SO YES, THEY GOT CURED.
Did they pay me. SOME DONATED but blackngold/positiveenergies did not and no one who donated has asked for their money back because even donations are refundable. SO YES AND NO some did happily donate but 80% did not, not because they were not cured but because it was solely up to them whether they donated or not. After they knew they were cured, why donate? It human nature melody. SO YES and NO. NO ONE HAS DONATED TO ME AND HAD A REFUND TURNED DOWN.
Are they cured? 75-80% of them are cured and now that I know herpes is fungus 100% of the people I see will be cured! YES, THEY ARE CURED. There is no cure more consistent than True Cures.
After they told me they still had Outbreaks I did tell them it was fungus and guess what melody, most of them used over the counter fungicides on their so called outbreaks and never had another OB again and their reports to me about how the fungicide worked is what PROVED their OBs were fungus, funny how that worked isn't it. That melody is why the 500 plus people I saw in 2009 are no longer posting on herpes forums or looking for cures. What I didn't cure in my early days of traveling to cure herpes, fungicides did. Fungicides will not cure systemic fungus so topical fungicides did not cure everyone so they have seen me for a second time and are now cured.
NOW, to prove herpes is fungus melody, anyone with yellow nail fungus can run right out and get a easy prescription to Lamisil tablets and cure their herpes once and for all. That's RIGHT, Lamisil prescription tablets will cure herpes! All you need to get Lamisil is some nail fungus. Please google "Lamisil cures herpes everytime" for more very important details.
So who is the scam melody? I will tell you who is the scam, anyone that takes money without producing results and that isn't me melody/blackngold/positiveenergies.
I guess for some reason the first part of my post didn’t show earlier.
Herpster – Thank you so much for your post! I forwarded the information to the other blog I have been reading for about a year. I would love for you and your husband to take a look at it, as they do their own research and experiments, and sometimes getting advices warnings from someone in the medical field could be useful. Also he could see the natural treatments they've had success with when it come to suppressing the virus, here is the info: http://hubpages(dot)com/hub/Herpes_Cure
I also think posting on every Herpes dating website would be a good idea.
Sorry I mean 'allow the air to get to the affected areas'
the typos are because I'm using iPhone and it's the word completion feature stuffing my words!
Hi Melody
I don't know of any dating sites, but will post anywhere I can ..
I found love, but I am in pain, it feels like a Stanley knife has cut me and salt is sprinkled over it. Dynamiclear is the only thing that works for me, aswell as cold sore cream for soothing . Like zorvirax
My husband and I keep reinfecting each other lol, it's terrible. He has it on his face now 🙁
spread my link around
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
whether is a worldwide petition or not, Australia will find a cure if we get that many votes.. We need to be strong and fight for a good cause !!
And to think that the girl they gave me the virus used to be an assistant for a plastic surgeon ., imagine that? Infected people in our hospitals, it's like zombies on planet earth. I'm sick of being isolated and infected ....http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
signing a petition is the only answer, since the scientists do not want to make a mark in history by doing a good deed for the sufferers.. Whoever will discover a cure will be famous for it, and mega rich, but they are probably paid not to go through with it, just to save the pharmacy cream business' around. What a sick world we live in.
If I get enough votes onhttp://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/ I will present it to the Australian government aswell as the white house, Obama .... The powerful country would have to make a difference to the world.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
The petition is great! Everyone should sign!!!
For those of you on dating sites for herpes victims, post the petition on the sites so we get more signatures, we need to get as many as we can. We can do it!!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
thanks again, spread the link everywhere, we all gain from it, inevitably, we will make w change, we need to work as a team to scream out and be heard.
I have contacted CNN. If my comments get edited or deleted through CNN moderators it will be the next big news story.
CNN censors CURES! I have a copy of this whole blog and I will show that you guys are all for universities bilking people out of zillions of dollars but ban free and existing cures. You have my permission to delete this once you understand the implications of censorship.
Test to see if comments without links are moderated.
CNN is NOT the only media outlet. Go to Fox, NBC, ABC, a foreign network... If you can cure what ails millions, you will win the Nobel prize.
Go for it!
Wow. People are unbelievable! No wonder you are so discouraged. HELLOOOO...the man is not taking money..he does this for FREE. He expects nothing in return...unless you feel like donating...try asking a drug company for that! Why are you people so against him UNLESS , you do have something to lose. I myself, would really like to learn from you. I do believe this kind of thing...is the future of medicine..real medicine, which of course, is not medicine at all. I just hope some of you out there are open-minded. I wasted tons of money on useless so-called "cures for herpes". Nothing..none..of it worked! Acylovir helps stop the outbreaks but it is not a CURE.
Good luck to you David and please dont be discouraged by these either brainwashed types, or the ones that stand to lose something when it is realized that there is indeed, a True Cure.
Herpster- I am sorry to hear that, you both need to take some antivirals to prevent the virus from shedding and to stop replication. There's also lubricants like divine 9 that contains carrageen which has antiviral property. One of the hubbers was a holistic practitioner and was giving us a lot of useful informations. Make sure you wash your hands after intercourses and make sure you go to the bathroom within 15 minutes after the intercourse. Good luck with everything. Hopefully a cure is on the way. Donate to Duke and sign Herpster petition.
I just realized that I had saved one of Healing and recovery post regarding Carrageenan here it is:
If your partner does not have the Virus, I also suggest the use of an ANTIVIRAL SEX GEL that contains CARRAGEENAN http://www.antiviralgel.com
Carrageenan, a natural component of some red and brown seaweeds, is an effective barrier which inhibits the ability of HPV, herpes and other STIs (Sexually Transmitted Infections) from replicating on the surface of the skin and inhibits their ability to adhere to the skin. It is not meant as a replacement for condoms, it's designed as a supplement to condom use to make it less likely to infect your loved ones. It's effective for genital, anal and oral sex. You use the gel as a barrier so the best way to use it in terms of heterosexual sex is for the man to put some on his penis and then put a latex condom on the penis. Then a small amount of gel would be applied to the labia of the woman and also inside her vagina. The gel should be reapplied every 30-45 minutes. Even after being sucked or licked there is enough of a coating of the gel to be effective for 30 minutes. The gel can be used as a barrier in anal sex, oral sex, lesbian oral sex and even for kissing. The gel must be used with a latex condom or a dental dam/saran wrap. The gel is not a contraceptive and will not prevent pregnancy. If you are a woman, regardless of whether or not you are sexually active you should place a small amount of the gel inside your vagina three times a day every day to help prevent outbreaks and viral shedding. If you are a man and have symptoms after sex or masturbation you should apply the gel three times a day to the areas where you have previously had sores. It is crucially important for women and men to urinate as soon after sex as possible. I recommend that it be within 15 minutes of completing the act. Failing to do so on a regular basis can lead to urinary track and bladder infections.
The money donated to Duke for herpes research will go to combat True Cures dot com. Duke now has to come up with a test that they can claim actually detects a "herpes virus". As it is the test used to diagnose herpes will allow a person with jock itch to test positive for HSV 2 because jock itch can just as easily cause the same antibody response "herpes" causes.
The money you donate will go to marketing more than research. Because science, Jay, medicine or Melody cannot dispute my claims they have no choice but to invest what ever it takes to market treatments as more attractive than cures that cannot be patented.
If you want to sign petitions, pass one around demanding medicine and medical science come clean. Otherwise you are putting your cure off with every penny donated. Just the same as every penny donated in the last 75 years.
Sex has nothing to do with herpes. People get herpes after having sex because they typically have sex on a weekend after a hard week at work, poor sleep all week and less sleep on the weekend. Friday comes and the party begins when you have completely run out of energy and immunity, then you drink alcohol and eat rich foods that both will cause fungal flare ups if you have them, then you dance and sweat till 2 in the morning with a raging fungal flare up from the alcohol, rich foods, sweat from dancing and lack of sleep and then what happens, instead of going to bed you have sex with a new partner with one of both of you having a fungal flare up and it gets passed easily from one person to another or it was there all along and you just had one party to many which is probably most likely the case.
If you have yellow nails from nail fungus it is the same fungus causing your OBs. Research cures for nail fungus and get your prescription to cure it and you will cure your "herpes" but do it quickly because the only drug used for curing nail fungus will be off the market as soon as it becomes well known that it will cure herpes.
Forget about herpes, go to your doctor to get your nail fungus cured and kill more than just two birds with one stone.
YOU ARE WELCOME!
@david flowers
Stop wasting your time.
Now that the people know that you are scam.
They don't listen to you anymore.
THIS COMMENT WILL TELL YOU HOW TO GET PRESCRIPTION DRUG TO CURE HERPES FROM YOUR DOCTOR.
Actually Anna16, now that the people know you, Michael, Jay and Melody are scams, they don't listen to you anymore. However because you guys insist on trolling for donations and flooding the forum with the same song and dance being shoved down peoples throats for the past 75 years I have to come in and keep the new information current and visible.
I've started a new Hubpage on Lamisil Tablets I think you all will love, especially those of you against cures for herpes. I was being sarcastic, you will hate it Anna16 because you are against the truth and as such against cures that can't be patented. I hated to do it, but until you and the others learn the truth about medicine the people here who are sincerely looking for help will never have a chance.
20 to 1 the people pushing for donations for duke including you Anna16 do not have herpes. Chances are you are all here spamming for donations and to attack anything that gets in your way. I'm so in your way and in your face.
The people reading this who do have herpes do typically have nail fungus and believe me they are very interested in why they have nail fungus and herpes at the same time and why so many with herpes have nail fungus and why so many with nail fungus have herpes. This is because the same fungus that causes their OBs causes their nails to turn yellow.
Lamisil is a prescription medicine that cures nail fungus but it doesn't discriminate so even if it isn't the exact same fungus causing the OBs the Lamisil will still kill it AND CURE IT.
Now this will be a problem with a few people who do not have nail fungus yet, they will have to wait till the fungus spreads to the nails before they can cure their "herpes". Fortunate for those who suffer from fungal herpes they almost always suffer from other obvious fungal diseases as well so Lamisil will end up curing hundreds of thousands of people before they take it off the market or change the formula. For more info go to hubpages.com and search for Lamisil Cures Herpes Every Time. Or just Google Lamisil Cures Herpes Every Time and it will come up.
Now, anna16, you say I am a scam. If a person capable of curing herpes without any products is a scam, I'm a scam. If a person can find the truth about herpes through all the medical science fiction lies and discover that herpes is a fungus is a scam, than I am a scam. If a person tells the world how they can cure herpes through their doctor without receiving anything in return is a scam, than I am a scam. If a person never ever collects money or donations for something he or she doesn't follow through with is a scam, than I am a scam. In this whole wide world, I'm the only person you cannot call a scam. Even a person working at burger king can be called a scam for pushing fries and shakes when a person just wants a burger. NO, me I don't push anything that people do not want and I don't collect a dime unless they get exactly what they want. So keep your name calling to a minimal because I will report you from now on!
Anna16, this is a CNN blog and my claims are news worthy to say the least and I am going to tromp all over you, Jay and Melody until CNN is forced to deal with you or I. Clearly they cannot ban me for spam when I have no way to collect money from anyone and you people are flat out begging for money and so blatantly.
I'm here so get use to it. If CNN chooses to ban and censor the truth all the people I have following this blog now will get a better feel for why they went so long without knowing there are cures for diseases medicine cannot cure.
Instead of accusing me of being a scam without any justification or reason why not start a petition to have CNN investigate my claims and let someone actually research True Cures and then pass judgment instead of childish name calling.
truecures.com
http://hubpages.com/hub/Lamisil-cures-herpes-every-time
This is an article with details about the medication Lamisil and how it will cure herpes and what it takes to get a prescription. This link is not spam and none of my links are so moderators get busy moderating and post my back comments or be exposed for censorship. You got people posting links to donate money to, phone number to call to give money away and you censor links that discuss cures. Let people be the judge for themselves. Don't let Jay, Melody, Herpster, Michael and Anna16 make you think no one is interested. You have hundreds of people reading this blog a day and the only reason they are not posting is because of the jokers attacking me personally instead of disputing my claims like adults.
Sure I make bold claims, if they were false they would be easily disputed. If they were false I would be arrested but because they are true they cannot be disputed and I cannot be arrested. CNN, stop the censorship.
David, this appears to be your "own" authored article. I agree with you that even though one may be "cured" the antibodies may appear for life; however, can you provide empirical research that documents at least 10 or more people that have been "cured" from herpes after using this – for life?
If it behaves as the medical community says – hides in the nerve ganglia – even a non-science person such as myself has a hard time seeing how a topical agent could "cure" it...
Care to shed some light?
Michael there is not one true medical fact about what is called herpes. If there were, people wouldn't be looking for a cure.
If anyone wants to be cured of herpes there is a new and reliable science called True Cures, and yes I am the author and scientist behind all consistent cures outside of medicine and anything less than my articles is modern science fiction and if you choose to put your eggs in that basket continue to donate to Duke and University of Florida.
If you want cures you better recognize what is science fiction and what is not. If you want cures you better find the truth and I will save you some time, modern medical science fiction says you cannot cure herpes but their drug Lamisil will cure herpes every time.
If you want documented cases of True Cures curing herpes, just list your real name and who you are here and then come and be cured. If you will not list your real name here and let it be documented you know darn good and well there will be no one else doing it either.
Remember Duke and the University of Florida have never contacted me even though I cured over 300 people know to donate to them.
Please sign the Petition to Cure Herpes. It can be done in 3 minutes or less and is anonymous!!!! You can help yourself by doing this!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
Thanks so much Michael 🙂
Spread the link on every site you know of where we can get maximum exposure to help us find a cure
🙂
True Cures – a little googling of you clearly reveals that you are a scam-a-roni. Why are there all of these sites that expose you if you have cured hundreds of people of herpes? Anyone can make claims. Unfortunately it appears that you can't back yours up however. No need to keep spamming this board to sell a little bit of snake-oil. The word is out on you, and it doesn't appear to be very pretty.
Really John. Why don't you list "all those sites" and quote one genuine dispute to my claims, like scientific disputes. There are 6 sites all by the same person with the exception of Angela. Regardless the sites are started by the owner of the CureZone who sells nothing but alternative products a site that banned me for proving to their members that cures required no products and Shut up and post, a herpes site.
Angela is the owner of Shut up and post, and though blackNgold saw me under her handle positiveenergies as a plant I have never met Angela. She is attacking me for saying herpes is a fungus and is easily cured and nothing more. And it so happens John that I can prove everything I claims what can you prove?
So John, list any site other than blackngold/posenergies or angela's sites? And list any person who has paid me anything and asked for it back. And keep in mind I use pay-pal there are perfect records of all payments and all disputes.
So John, if you cannot support your attacks take them somewhere else.
NOW AS FOR HERPES BEING FUNGUS, everyone of you with yellow nail fungus can cure herpes with Lamisil. If you don't want to ask questions here and butt heads with people who can only call me names because they have no disputes feel free to google "Lamisil cures herpes every time" and post there and if you want to contact me do so here or if you don't want to butt heads with John and those like him go to truecures.com to contact me.
500 plus people saw me in 2009 for herpes. If I am a scam there would be at least a handful of people who have seen me claiming I am a scam. So get to work john and find them.
I’m saying there are cures for diseases medicine cannot cure and I am saying medicine is not interested in cures that cannot be patented!
If medicine and medical science understood health and healing they could be able to cure you of any disease. You can read all the medical journals, links and books you want and you will not ever cure herpes because medicine has endless amounts of money to research herpes for a cure and endless medical resources and still no cure according to medicine.
This means for a cure to exist is MUST be outside medicine’s understanding and outside of current modern scientific understanding and scientific practice.
True Cures is the most pure form of science you will read about. It is not theory or hypothesis driven like medical science and medicine it is RESULT driven. Your only chance for understanding health and healing as it pertains to cures is to read information from a science that is capable of curing disease medicine and medical science cannot!
Do not try to use medical scientific understanding to understand cures or True Cures, if you use medical understanding it leaves you with ONE conclusion, THERE IS NO CURE, because that is what medical science claims and their puny science fiction backs up their claims.
True Cures is not medicine. True Cures is not medical science. Medical Science has no relation to cures or True Cures. You will not understand cures or True Cures thinking with your current scientific propaganda understanding. You will not find information supporting or explains how true cures works outside of my own information. Your only way to know if True Cures is all I say it is by seeing me and being cured or accepting the fact that if it wasn’t all I say it is I would be arrested.
Ok everyone I get it now
Reading David Flowers posts he is telling us he has the miracle cure for herpes Wow what a guy!!!!
But the problem is no-one not even scientists or the government want to hear him, that is so strange isnt it? so he wants to share it all with us but he cant do it here, you have to log onto his website and then thats where his months wages are paid
David if you had the cure to herpes you would be a multi millionaire there are numerous companies out there trying to find the cure, the one that finds the cure would be RICH my friend and you cannot dispute that
So what makes you any different?? Also I read yre post about us managing our immune system so I guess you have the cure for Aids and HIV too........what a wonderful man you are surely someone important would listen to you if you had this information????
And please just give me a straight answer stop beating round the bush and giving me paragraphs of stories
@ Jay
Jay if you were here to understand herpes and the cure for herpes you would know by now. I have explained what I do here already if you care to find my first 5 or so comments. Just so you know, you are the reason people do not discuss what I do here. They do not want to put up with your attacks so the people who read all my comments here post their comments on the Healing Underground or contact me directly.
They are well aware that you are a troll trying to stop them from thinking for themselves. They have given medicine and scientist money and years to find a cure for herpes and no cure. They know they have an immune system designed to cure herpes and they want to pursue it. They would discuss it here if there were not so many trolls here.
truecures.com
healingunderground.com troll free
David Flowers – I am actually starting to enjoy our conversations oddly enough
I am a troll?? strong words indeed my friend, I tell you what I am going to keep donating to Dr Bloom he has formed the herpes coallition, Dr Bloom is the first person who has designed a ribozyme that can block any recurrent herpes attacks from ever coming back YES EVERYONE NOT A VACCINE BUT A CURE, he has received funding from PEPSI the soft drinks giants £50k to be exact if his testing is positive the FDA will give its approval and private investers will pour money into his project as they realise they would be RICH having found the soluton of curing herpes.... Also you talk about all of us pouring millions into finding a cure, Hmmm not sure about that herpes is now a massive epedemic and in the early 70's and 80's people were suffering in silence and we had no internet so lots more companies are asking for good people like us to help fund their projects which seems very reasonable as herpes is not exactly an easy virus to cure, the government see this as lots of money pouring into an open pocket as no-one has found the solution and as it is not life threatening they would rather invest their money elsewhere
The reason I donate to Dr Bloom is because he is one of the only companies tyring to find a cure and not a vaccine , also he is a reputable person, is on facebook and a registered company
So David as wonderful as your miracle cure sounds and all these 500 people you have cured which of course we loved reading your own testimonials you made up, I think I and many others will pass on that
The funniest thing is when you say your are doing this all for free!!! we can make a payment if we wish well I bet my bottom dollar this is how you fund your life so its a full time job for you to prey on vulnerable people and scam them for their hard earned cash, i guarantee we have to make an appointment with you and then you play on our feeling stating how wonderful it would be to like herpes free and then we are just a swipe of a card or written cheque away............Yes I thought I was right
Hi Everyone just thought I would leave you with this, I found this on Cure zone this is one of David Flowers real testimonials
Just an update for those who followed David Flowers aka True Cures, who has been thrown off numerous websites and treated 300 herpes clients without a success story (I won't discuss here the countless others he has treated for other things without success). He is still arrogantly pushing his services on people – just that now they aren't falling for it. The 300 people he "treated" for Herpes all still have it. He hasn't cured a single person. I have been in personal contact with many of them. He was thrown off of this site multiple times for bad behaviour (yet kept returning under new and bogus handles), and nary a soul will ever go to bat for him on the internet. Folks with Herpes should save their cash and not waste it on this arrogant know-nothing. He claims he doesn't "charge" people (wink-wink). He only takes..... (sigh)...... "donations"... Which unfortunately can run into the hundreds (thousands??) of dollars... Plus the airfare to send him to your town..... Plus the hotel expenses...... Plus the money to feed him..... Plus the money to pay for him to play 18 holes on the links..... (yeah, he actually has su*kered people into paying his so called fees on the green..........)
So save your hard earned cash. He wasn't curing people of herpes last year. And he ain't doing it this year either ...... unfortunately. Stick to the natural methods. And hard work..... No one has ever cured themselves of any affliction or disease by spending oodles of money flying this guy around to stroke his ego on your dime......................................
GOD IS HELPING YOU TO FIND THE HERPES CURE FOREVER...!
I'LL PRAY EVERYDAY TO HELP US...!
AND WHEN YOU'LL FOUND IT SEND ME A REQUEST SOON AS POSSIBLE OK..!
THANK YOU...AND GOD BLESS YOU...!
Please sign the petition to cure herpes at:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
You can do so anonymously and it will take 5 mins or less.
True Cures – Are you for reals or is this just a bad Fraternity prank? You just replied to me "500 plus people saw me in 2009 for herpes. If I am a scam there would be at least a handful of people who have seen me claiming I am a scam. So get to work john and find them." Well True Cures. I just read a hell of a lot of stuff on google about you. And your website. And the healingunderground site. And wouldn't ya know. I can't find a single person anywhere who claims that you cured them of herpes. Why is it up to us here to spend hours trying to track these people down? Clearly they don't exist.
People! Be aware that there are scammers out there! Don't buy into this snake-oil salesjob that he is selling! True Cures – could you please send these 500 people that you have cured of herpes here so that we could get their story? Didn't think so. Now please go home and stop pestering us here.
John- Next, he is going to pretend he is someone else and write a fake testimonial. He did that on the other website.
Melody – It sure wouldn't suprise me none. From what I have read on the internet about this dude – including from his own sites, well let's just say that he can't be trusted. Talks a big game and then strikes out when the chips are down. True Cures – You have your challenge here. It is put up or shut up time. Bring a dozen people out of the 500 that you "cured" of herpes here and maybe we can begin to talk. Meaning with real stories. Short of that. Well get lost.
This poem is dedicated to David Flowers
There was a man called David Flowers he use to sit in his ivory towers
Don’t like his claims or his tone, bet he set up this business and works from home
He called the company true cure, the weak and vulnerable he loves to lure
His claims are so cynical yet he has found the miracle
Its 100% satisfaction guarantee, just come this way and pay this fee
He is someone you love to hate, go to his website the testimonials are fake
So David your style is wack, get off the crack and get a real job
I really really enjoyed writing this sorry we cant pay for your next holiday or fees on the golf course
Please sign the petition to cure herpes. It only takes 5 minutes or less and can be done in anonymity.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/
You are exactly right Jay; True Cures is how I fund my extravagant lifestyle. I fund my life with donations from cured people and $200 in food stamps each month. For those of you not aware of what it takes to qualify for food stamps I will tell you. It takes poverty. In 16 years I have had only one person donate to True Cures who hasn't seen me or been cured. You people have donated time and time again for the fabled unicorn medical cure that is always just around the corner. Actual cures cannot compete with the hype behind the carrot cure Jay wants you all to continue to invest in, just in case, the carrot in the face not a carrot diet.
Last night I spent 2 heated emotional hours discussing with friends and family whether or not I should continue living in poverty so I can continue promoting cures. It was an ugly discussion. I have been curing disease for almost16 years and have been perfecting them the whole time and it isn't something I want to give up but for two hours of heated debate, argument and emotional trauma from all parties I couldn't come up with ONE good reason to continue to cure people of herpes or any disease medicine cannot cure.
For the record, the cure for herpes is the same exact cure for any disease. The cure for herpes is restoring the immune system and a restored immune system will cure any disease in less than a month, usually in less than two weeks. For 16 years I scientifically developed a means to REGAIN control of our own immunity so we can utilize what we have had from the beginning of man but have turned our backs on in pursuit of patents.
The summery of the debate/argument was that there is no way medicine is going to get involved with cures that can't be patented and sold. I heard all the same arguments I have heard for the past 16 years. Funny how some people believe if I had money and was not on food stamps I could pay someone to investigate my claims. However because I AM THE ONLY ONE to have ever contacted a research group, university or medical center and I have contacted hundreds of them about True Cures, I am the only one who knows they are not interested under any circumstances. If a scientific group validated cures that couldn't be patented it would be the end of them as well. No amount of money can pay a research group to validate or investigate cures that cannot be patented when the validation will destroy them.
So yes Jay, I live off of my donations and $200 in food stamps. I kill my own wild game which helps. It cost me a little more than $50 to put 200 lbs of elk in my freezer last 13 days ago which I killed, packed out, cut up myself. I have a garden that produces fresh produce. I have two extremely fine sporting dogs that are highly appreciated by what few friends I have so occasionally I get to go bird hunting because my friends will pay the gas and other expenses just to hunt behind them. I had to give up golf, one of the few activities that took my mind off of butting heads with jerks all day from forums like the CureZone and CNN. That's OK, I can play full court basketball for free and ride my bike to the gym instead. A golf membership here is $700 and no other fees before anyone goes off on wooooo he plays golf.
I didn't read all the attacks you all posted here, I'm sure there is nothing new. What I have yet to see in 16 years is anyone dispute my claims.
One of my friends last night said he can get me a job driving an onion truck despite the fact that my resume says I have been scientifically developing cures for diseases medicine cannot cure for the past 16 years.
Jay and John or whoever you are, I'm sure you are the same person acting as if you are many, I am no longer enjoying the act of helping people cure diseases medicine can't cure. This is largely due to you creeps who believe cures are going to be chemicals and there is nothing an immune system can do. The poverty is taking its toll on me, my family and my friends. It's Sunday morning and I have a few new contacts who found me right here in the middle of all these attacks. They are asking to make appointments despite your trash talk here. I have been setting appointments and curing people under these exact same conditions for many years and I'm tired of it. It took being ganged up on for a two hour blow up for me to realize how tired I was and how futile it is to think I could make a difference when I am up against the most powerful industry in the world.
I DO NOT HAVE ONE GOOD REASON to help someone cure herpes or any disease. The only reason I ever had was my idealistic belief that it was the right thing to do. Jay/John and all you other people attacking me have beat that out of me.
You creeps are going to love this, I'm not going to cure another person until I have a few good reasons to do so. I'm through debating and butting heads with people loyal to a failing medicine and medical science that has a proven 500 year track record of failing. I'm through with you Jay and John. I'm through defending cures that cannot be patented. If anyone wants to be cured, let them defend cures and give me a reason.
I checked this Flowers guy out with an open mind really hoping that he had something special and different. This is what I found.
His premise is that the human immune system can cure anything if functioning properly. He advocates a low carb, no sugar, caffeine or booze diet plus plenty of sleep and water to drink and stress reduction. All of this sounds very reasonable. He advocates going without anti-perspirants to let the lymph nodes do their job. OK , I can go with that. Then he says that Herpes is really caused by a fungus not a virus. Well, there has been some research done into H having a"fungal host" so that claim didn't sound too far out there.
Where he lost me was when I pinned him to the wall in his "Healing Underground" forum and made him define the exact mechanism by which he claims to activate a person's immune defenses to pathogens. He does something he calls a "Quantum Entanglement". This has nothing to do with sub-atomic physics, it is really just another name for a Vulcan Mind Meld. While melded with a client, he claims to be able to diagnose the exact problem and "command" your body's immune system to wipe it out.
This is a guy who regularly dismisses most proven scientific knowledge as "science fiction" and he is doing Vulcan Mind Melds! Well, no thanks, Mr. Spock. Although the sci-fi has been entertaining, I'm going back to the real world now.
The sad thing is that I think he actually believes his own malarky. I don't think he's a con-man, just deluded.
Hey, even Spock knew when it was time to hang his ears up and get a new gig. If True Cures hasn't made it in 16 years, well there is a good reason for it. I guess most people don't put much stock in Vulcan Mind Melds for curing people. Maybe he should get a job in the entertainment industry.
You only scratched the surface Robin. I'm not going to waste much time. The diet you mentioned is a two week diet only. Less than two weeks for many who are still young and strong. True Cures is a science, as I have mentioned many times here and on all the articles and forums I post on.
Your science, the one you hold so dear and so infallible says there is no cure for herpes. You should have never contacted me if your science knows everything there is to know about an OB looking rash. I thought it was clear I contradicted them when I said herpes could be cured. Deluded? What did you think would be different in the science of cures verses the science of medicine that would have allowed your modern scientific intellect to accept a cure outside of medicine?
The simple fact remains, as far as ANYONE knows the only cure outside of Lamisil for herpes has been when the person with herpes has cured themselves. EVEN your doctor will have to admit that the immune system can cure herpes. That is a fact. In all the history of medical science, the immune system gets the only credit for curing herpes. Just because you have adapted to rely on a pill doesn't mean your immune system cannot be controlled.
Deluded? Why don't you send some more donations to Duke and University of Florida and tell yourself you are not deluded.
If you ask me, you and I both have some serious issues to work out before we ever meet in the middle.
I wish you the best and someone said God is your answer here. Why don't you pray a little harder for Duke and U of F to come up with a cure that can be patented. I'm sure God loves it when you pray for something He has already prepared us to deal with and cure.
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I believe GOd is still in the miracle working business....God can do anything but FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just keep believing God and he will work a Miracle. Just tell God what you need and he will get to work on it......Jesus is Real !!!!!! Keep the Faith and just Trust the LORD!!!!
I agree with you in that God is a Miracle Worker. God also wants us to help ourselves and do more than complain about our afflictions. He wants us to be loyal to Him and also use our mind. Part of us using our mind is making good decisions and following thru on them.
I believe Mr. Bloom at University of Florida and Mr. Cullen at Duke, among others, are working hard to find a cure. I believe God expects us to be smart enough to figure this out. These people, like the rest of us, have to eat and feed their families as well as pay for facilities, etc. As such, we need to DONATE TO THEIR RESEARCH AND STOP JUST COMPLAINING ABOUT IT! IF 50 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE US HAVE HERPES AND 10% (5 MILLION) WILL DONATE ONE DOLLAR A MONTH, WE WOULD FUND $60MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOR RESEARCH. THAT WOULD CERTAINLY PUSH A CURE OUT THERE SOON.
IN CLOSING, PLEASE PRAY ABOUT IT AND DONATE TO THESE FINE RESEARCHERS. IF YOU HAVE TO SACRIFICE A COFFEE, A SOFT DRINK, ETC EACH MONTH TO DO IT, PLEASE DO. REMEMBER THERE IS STRENTH IN NUMBERS. IF WE ALL DO A LITTLE, IT WILL TURN INTO A LOT!!!!!!!!!!
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-Special juicing techniques for maximum healing power.
-How to conquer allergies, obesity, high blood pressure, AIDS, lupus, and other diseases.
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