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California sterilized Charlie Follett by force in 1945. He died last month at age 82, too poor to afford his own funeral.
April 11th, 2012
10:16 AM ET

No money to bury man sterilized by force

Even in death Charlie Follett continues to be marginalized.

In 1945, the state of California forced Follett to have a vasectomy when he was just 15 years old, according to state records. California then refused to compensate him for the atrocious violation. Follett died March 28 at 82, just three weeks after CNN first reported his story.

His body hasn’t been buried because there’s no money to pay for a funeral.

“He didn’t have any burial insurance, or any life insurance, or any kind of insurance for that matter,” Follett’s friend, Rudy Banlasan, told CNN. “The plot alone is $4,000.”

According to Follett’s sister and niece, Follett died of pneumonia, Banlasan said. Before his death, Follett described the brutal details of his sterilization.

"First, they shot me with some kind of medicine. It was supposed to deaden the nerves," he said. "Then the next thing I heard was snip, snip and that was it.”

The sterilization worked exactly as California had intended - Follett died having had no children. He was one of 20,000 Californians sterilized by force in the early and mid-1900s as part of the state’s eugenics program, which was designed to end the bloodlines of the so-called feeble-minded to create a more desirable population. Follett was sterilized because his parents were both alcoholics.

Over the past few years, Banlasan tried to help Follett seek justice, writing letters and e-mails on Follett's behalf to Gov. Edmund "Jerry" Brown and other state politicians and officials. But Banlasan hasn’t told them about Follett’s death or asked the state for help to pay for a proper burial.

“I didn’t even try because to me it’s pointless,” he said. “I didn’t think they were going to do anything now, especially since he’s gone.”

Follett served in the Korean War and as a veteran could be buried in a national cemetery at no cost for the plot, Banlasan said. However, Follett wanted to be buried at a cemetery in Lodi, California, near family members including his grandparents, said Banlasan. A plot, gravestone and memorial service would cost $9,000, he said.

Follett’s family has set up a memorial fund. Donations can be made by contacting Wells Fargo Bank in Lodi, California, or by e-mailing charliememorialfund@gmail.com.


soundoff (103 Responses)
  1. john

    Man, do we need to bring that program back for people these days!

    April 11, 2012 at 22:19 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Joshua Ludd

      No, we do not.

      April 11, 2012 at 22:26 | Report abuse |
    • Captain LA

      Let's start with you.

      April 11, 2012 at 22:59 | Report abuse |
    • Edwin

      I'm with Captain here, john. Anyone who thinks a eugenics program is beneficial is a scourge on society. And even if you were just joking, it was in very poor taste.

      April 11, 2012 at 23:15 | Report abuse |
    • jimzcarz

      Start with all the prison inmates..Then the welfare Mom's with more that 3 kids.

      April 11, 2012 at 23:52 | Report abuse |
    • ziggy

      First we sterilize you and your entire family, then jimzcarz and his entire family.

      All without anesthesia

      Then we can end the program

      April 12, 2012 at 00:16 | Report abuse |
    • Tired of Whiners

      Sterilization isn't the answer.

      Euthenasia.

      Starting with all these whining liberals.

      April 12, 2012 at 00:26 | Report abuse |
    • bory

      In all seriousness – I agree with John. There are some people who should not be allowed to have children. Like, the heroin addict who was just arrested and is pregnant with her 5th kid, that's probably going to be retarded now because she was addicted to drugs. Or mentally deficient people who aren't able to take care of themselves, let alone a child. The eugenics program took it too far. I can see the reasoning and rationale behind it.

      April 12, 2012 at 00:31 | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      "I'm with Captain here, john. Anyone who thinks a eugenics program is beneficial is a scourge on society. And even if you were just joking, it was in very poor taste."

      A knee jerk response with 0 critical thought if I ever read one. We're past 7 billion people and will be rounding the bend toward 8 in no time at all. The human population is projected to hit 12 – 14 billion people by the end of the century. This is the 700lb gorilla in the room that most major governments and talking heads on tv prefer not to talk about. If you think this planet can support a population of that grotesque size, then you are living in a delusion.

      Science and technology will not save us before we reach a population crisis. And it's fairly obvious that the human race isn't about to change its ways – too many developing nations with aspirations of industrial ages and population booms. The tragic thing is, in a last ditch attempt to save us from ourselves – we are going to absolutely rape this planet to keep the business-as-usual running for maybe...50 more years – tops. You think what we're doing to the planet now is hard to watch? Wait a bit.

      This social concept at the turn of the 20th century that all human life is precious no matter who it is, no matter what they've done, no matter what they have contributed to the whole is a nicety that will evaporate into thin air once we reach the point when people realize there's not enough food/water/land/resources left on our planet to share. It's going to get awkward pretty quick. Eugenics isn't pretty, but effective – China has put it to use with success in keeping their population from ballooning out of control. I'm sure others are taking notes, even if they claim not to be – especially if they claim not to be.

      April 12, 2012 at 02:00 | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      How about just free birth control for everyone.

      April 12, 2012 at 02:02 | Report abuse |
    • Jack Caneatnofat

      9000 bucks for a hole and box? I will do it for 50 bucks.

      April 12, 2012 at 02:36 | Report abuse |
    • squawks

      How about all the men who make women pregnant outside of marriage?

      April 12, 2012 at 03:21 | Report abuse |
    • Get a life

      Sterilization IS the answer.

      April 12, 2012 at 03:26 | Report abuse |
    • art

      You being first, and I knew this wasn't a true article you weren't supposed to be born.

      April 12, 2012 at 05:05 | Report abuse |
    • Mom

      For that guy who kidnapped Jayce Dugard.

      April 16, 2012 at 04:36 | Report abuse |
    • anna

      Definately! And not just here but the whole of the third wold countries.

      And why must he be buried if the plot is 4000 dollars, if he has no money he should just be cremated.
      What? does his family expect taxpayers to pay for his funeral, ridiculous.

      April 16, 2012 at 08:35 | Report abuse |
  2. Paul

    How on Earth can California refuse to compensate him? I guess that's liberals for you.

    April 11, 2012 at 22:25 | Report abuse | Reply
    • ficheye

      I guess if you are thinking "what can I say today that would prove that I'm not very smart", then you have succeeded.

      April 11, 2012 at 22:49 | Report abuse |
    • c

      Weird...when this man was subjected to forced sterilization, the government of California was more than predominately Republican...including the governor. It isn't the state that should have to pay, but those who were in power at the time. I say that the Repugnant party owes Mr. Follett's estate a rather hefty sum of money....the durn Lib...oh, wait, that's right, Conservatives. Odd that they partook of a practice that the whole civilized world was screaming about the Nazis doing.

      April 11, 2012 at 23:21 | Report abuse |
    • Larry

      Liberals? how does this have anything to do with liberals? takes the conservatives to say no to to keep something llike a bill giving conpensation from being passed.

      April 12, 2012 at 00:54 | Report abuse |
    • sandy

      According to the article, the state hasn't been informed of his death and no request has been made for them to pay for his burial, etc. His friend was trying to get him compensation for the involuntary sterilization.

      April 12, 2012 at 01:01 | Report abuse |
    • mark

      so..what are liberals..anything you don't like? liberals throw away money to everyone and liberals won't pay for a poor guys burial? i'm not sure what image of liberals conservatives have... i can't be everything at once :)

      April 12, 2012 at 02:51 | Report abuse |
  3. Rich Valentine

    Who's up for joining a Facebook page to help get this guy the burial he deserves? I know trolls will troll, but this man lived a life without knowing the love of one's own children because of the state's horrendous actions!

    April 11, 2012 at 22:29 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Canadian

      In 1945 this is something the world just learned that Nazi's where doing... This is sick!!! The Government should have to anount for this!

      April 11, 2012 at 22:49 | Report abuse |
    • c smythe

      My son had a successful reversal . . . and the dead don't know if or where they are buried so who relly cares? Squeemish bunch aint ya?

      April 11, 2012 at 23:11 | Report abuse |
    • Edwin

      c smythe: I think the rest of us, still alive, will know that the atrocity occurred. By your standards, we shouldn't worry much about murderers, since their victims won't know justice anyways.

      April 11, 2012 at 23:17 | Report abuse |
    • Monica

      Rich, if you setup the FB page I will definitely contribute and spread the word! The financial goal could be $10,000. If 1,000 people each gave only $10.00, the funeral and (other expenses) could be paid for in a few days. Extra money raised could be donated to organizations (if any exist) that assist people all over the country who were involuntarily sterilized because of Eugenics (the "science" of improving the human race through controlled breeding). The atrocities that have been committed by this country against its fellow man over the decades are deplorable. But, the truly shameful acts are when those responsible for the injuries/mutilations/deaths try to pretend that they did nothing wrong!

      April 11, 2012 at 23:30 | Report abuse |
    • Guayanillensa

      that was nice of you ! we should all contribute and be the family he could not have ... RIP it is sad that he also will have to be burried in the soil that prevented him from having love ones. Just because his fam – well mom and dad were alcoholics, you know that the best people come form troubled parents ... wow

      April 11, 2012 at 23:35 | Report abuse |
    • David Chavez

      Rich,

      I am contacting the American Legion in NJ as well as CA to see if they can help with the burial.

      David

      April 11, 2012 at 23:44 | Report abuse |
    • Rudy B

      Rich,

      I am Charlie's friend and I'm helping his family come up with the funds to give him a proper and dignified burial. We would love your help. Charlie has a facebook page under Charles Follett and I monitor that. Also we have set up a memorial fund account under his name in a local Wells Fargo Bank branch. In addition, we have set up a PayPal account and donations can be sent via PayPal to charliememorialfund@gmail.com. Any other email inquiries can also be sent to that email address. Thank you!

      April 12, 2012 at 00:54 | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      I sympathize with the man, but I think there are better uses for my charitable dollars.

      April 12, 2012 at 05:35 | Report abuse |
  4. Eugene

    That man was subjected to an unspeakable atrocity.

    April 11, 2012 at 22:30 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Edwin

      Without trying to be funny here: let's make it a speakable one - as long as we refuse to discuss atrocities, they repeat themselves.

      April 11, 2012 at 23:19 | Report abuse |
  5. Jack Jackson

    F you

    April 11, 2012 at 22:35 | Report abuse | Reply
  6. Jerry

    Now, if we could just sterilize the Liberals...........

    April 11, 2012 at 22:38 | Report abuse | Reply
    • M.E.

      Typical, a republican male thinking my uterus is any of his business.

      April 11, 2012 at 22:50 | Report abuse |
    • Edwin

      At first your comment made me very angry, then I realized you're just a 13 year old boy on his mommy's computer, trying to upset people because it's the only way you can have fun.

      April 11, 2012 at 23:24 | Report abuse |
    • HeidiLiz

      Leave it to a conservative to support eugenics.

      April 11, 2012 at 23:38 | Report abuse |
    • Tired of Whiners

      Leave it to liberals to claim we need to pay for their breeding.

      April 12, 2012 at 00:27 | Report abuse |
  7. wcus445

    Any male with half a brain would have a vasectomy at the first opportunity. Only an idiot would allow himself to be a slave to child support and division of assets after every break-up. Girlfriends are good. Wives are bad. Do not be stupid.

    April 11, 2012 at 22:43 | Report abuse | Reply
    • M.E.

      U mad, lol?

      April 11, 2012 at 22:51 | Report abuse |
    • Gadflie

      Yep, you are ending up right where Darwin though those like you would. Thank you.

      April 11, 2012 at 22:57 | Report abuse |
    • sunnyjim

      can't believe someone has that much stupidity in one head... but you do

      April 11, 2012 at 23:35 | Report abuse |
    • Herby Sagues

      I am glad that someone that thinks like you abstains from having children. It's voluntary eugenics, sort of part of the darwinian process. I'm all for it.

      April 11, 2012 at 23:54 | Report abuse |
    • peaceboy96

      @Gadflie

      Darwinism and evolution for the win!

      April 12, 2012 at 01:18 | Report abuse |
    • KF

      Unfortunately breeding is now the opposite of survival of the fittest thanks to modern society. Stupid people are more likely to have kids, and much more likely to have many kids. What percentage of people with doctorates have 3+ kids? Look at highly successful people who rely on knowledge for their success vs musicians/atheletes and you'll see a much lower prevalence of having many kids. The fact is that the people who do the least for society are the people who tend to have the most kids. Idioacracy is not a comedy. It is a tragedy, and a vision of the future unless steps are taken to stem the tide.

      A perfect example of what we're doing to ourselves is the dog. Most modern dog breeds barely have the ability to survive in the wild thanks to selective breeding by humans. We breed them for traits that we like vs traits that make them all around better survivors. We have destroyed survival of the fittest in their case, and as we have dominated the environment around us we have destroyed natural selection for ourselves as well. The rare exception to this are the truely stupid that manage to make it on the dwarwin awards list, but these poor individuals do not make a significant enough improvement on the gene pool to have any real effect.

      It may be "mean" but it is also true. Unfortunately our society in the U.S. doesn't have much respect for reality, survivalism, or hard truths, and only respects P.C. I find it unlikely that we'll do anything to fix the problem until it becomes so obvious (and at that point probably unfixable) that even young children will know that there is a problem because it will come to dominate life in every meaningful aspect.

      April 12, 2012 at 04:01 | Report abuse |
    • Sandra

      Please tell us you have done as you suggest other do. You are, after all, half-brained.

      April 14, 2012 at 18:57 | Report abuse |
  8. NamCbtVet

    He can still get a grave stone or marker through the VA.

    Strange that California has not tried to do right by these victims.

    April 11, 2012 at 22:45 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Edwin

      It's often easier to sweep past horrors under the rug and wait until the victims die than actually try to apologize.

      April 11, 2012 at 23:26 | Report abuse |
  9. ficheye

    It's sort of amusing that the state will have to deal with his body. They had no problem doing it earlier in his life. Just a little bit of payback. As a side note, the Germans said that they had learned about eugenics from US.

    April 11, 2012 at 22:52 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Tired of Whiners

      Liberals loved eugenics when it was Margaret Sanger of Planned Parenthood pushing it.

      April 12, 2012 at 00:29 | Report abuse |
    • Slayron

      The Nazi Germany Purity Laws were based on California State Law, the US was a pioneer and avid participant in eugenics programs nationwide from late 19th century until sometime "after" WWII...

      April 12, 2012 at 00:33 | Report abuse |
    • Slayron

      'inspired by' might be better, anyways intelligentia from many countries were strong advocates of "taking hold of the reins" so-to-speak. California eugenics laws were a precedent of and model for the Nuremburg laws...

      April 12, 2012 at 00:38 | Report abuse |
  10. Mary

    Although what the state did was wrong, I think they may have did him a favor...How could he possibly raise children if he had no money???

    April 11, 2012 at 23:17 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Edwin

      Umm... there's no reason to think he was poor his whole life. And if he couldn't afford kids, don't you think it was HIS choice, not California's?

      April 11, 2012 at 23:27 | Report abuse |
    • Really?

      I guess you wouldn't mind the state giving you a lobotomy because you don't use your brain...

      April 11, 2012 at 23:29 | Report abuse |
  11. Meep

    I'm seriously considering sending money. Personally I don't think it's the end of the world to not have kids, but it makes me sad he can't be buried with his family because he was poor.

    April 11, 2012 at 23:26 | Report abuse | Reply
  12. ohsnaps

    What's hilarious is that in 100 years there are going to be 300,000,000+ dead americans, with the exception of those born today who will live to be 101. Anyways, thats a lot of cemetery space we're gonna need. Perhaps we can make Texas into the national free cemetary...

    April 11, 2012 at 23:30 | Report abuse | Reply
  13. veteran

    i just emailed the story to jerry brown's office. hopefully it will get past the sub-sub-sub secretary

    April 11, 2012 at 23:31 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Mom

      You should check to see if Jerry Brown has a Facebook page, they would be more alert to the need because it is so public and they can't ignore it.

      April 16, 2012 at 04:31 | Report abuse |
  14. Long Ago

    I read that even though both parents can be alcoholics, not all their children would be susceptible ( genetically).
    That one piece of paper on his wall, the pullup bar over his bed, speaks of a sad life that could have been rich with family.
    I read that decisions made by consensus are more likely to be less humane.
    RIP old guy, you still fared better than some who were hideous parents.

    April 11, 2012 at 23:33 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Tired of Whiners

      And what stopped him from marrying? What stopped him from adopting?

      He didn't die alone and penniless because his vas deferens had been nipped decades ago. He died alone and penniless because he turned out to be an alcoholic loser just as predicted.

      April 12, 2012 at 00:32 | Report abuse |
    • jane

      I certainly hope that just because one has alcoholic parents it doesn't mean the child to become the same. Both my parents are/were. So far my two siblings and I are not and we are all in our mid 30s now. It used to really worry me....hopefully by mid 30s I am ok now.

      April 12, 2012 at 00:34 | Report abuse |
    • Theo

      Personal experience has shown me that soomene who you think is going to be a great employee can turn instantly into an employee from &$#@ once their probationary period is up. Probationary periods give employers a quick peek but sometimes a longer period is needed to assess an individual's true character this is where using a temp service helps protect companies to obtain the cream of the crop employees.

      October 11, 2012 at 14:56 | Report abuse |
  15. tcat117

    They practiced forced sterilization as late as 2007 in the czech republic, mainly on the Roma (gypsies).

    April 11, 2012 at 23:35 | Report abuse | Reply
    • jane

      And the opposite...forced reproduction. In Romania under ceausescu.

      April 12, 2012 at 00:36 | Report abuse |
  16. Pavel

    I've set up a facebook status on my page to help with the donation and contacted the email.. I will not sit by when this could have been any one of you, or even myself for that matter.. wishing there was some sense of dignity left in humanity.

    April 12, 2012 at 00:07 | Report abuse | Reply
  17. j

    This is what happens when you get self-righteous politicians who think they know what is best for you.

    Left or Right, it doesn't matter. Both have their social engineers, and they're all monstrously wrong.

    Keep the Government out of reproduction rights. Keep the Government out of the bedroom. If they try it, it is your duty as an American to fight back.

    April 12, 2012 at 00:24 | Report abuse | Reply
  18. ari

    this is injustice. the state is the one who f***** up this guy's life–they have a duty to at least give him a decent burial.

    April 12, 2012 at 00:28 | Report abuse | Reply
  19. Snap

    1. NOTHING prevented this man from marrying.
    2. NOTHING prevented this man from adopting children.
    3. NOTHING prevented this man from undergoing the procedure to reverse the vasectomy.
    4. His brutal trauma was an injection and then hearing 'snip snip'.
    5. He is eligible for a free burial but wants to be buried somewhere else. That is his choice but not our responsibility to pay.

    Someone is pushing an agenda using this poor man. CNN is using a biased story to sell clicks to their advertisers.

    April 12, 2012 at 00:33 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Really?

      They didn't even have reversals until the 70's.

      Stop being a dbag...

      April 12, 2012 at 00:37 | Report abuse |
    • Snap

      just the facts. why couldn't he try for a reversal in the 70's? why not adopt?

      April 12, 2012 at 00:42 | Report abuse |
    • Poodles

      Stop putting whales up your bum.

      April 12, 2012 at 00:43 | Report abuse |
    • scir91onYouTube

      *click click*

      April 16, 2012 at 02:03 | Report abuse |
  20. janet

    Oh that poor old man! He was in such an aweful place! I wonder if he had regular visitors. If he had kids, he would. If he had kids, he may have even thought it was worth it to buy life insurance. Yeah, the state should figure out what to do with him. They had no problems figuring out what to do with him when he was alive. However, the state would probably put him in an unmarked mass grave whenever they get around to it. Wow, I just love my government, and trust it completely!

    April 12, 2012 at 00:43 | Report abuse | Reply
  21. Jeff

    So what? bodies are stacking up all over the place. Detroit has had up to 69 bodies that have never been claimed over this past summber and even more bodies who've been identified and the families can't afford a funeral that are either creamated in a mass burning, or burried in mass graves for the poor. It sucks being poor in life and death!

    April 12, 2012 at 00:51 | Report abuse | Reply
  22. skhanson66

    Wow, some of you *really* think eugenics is even reasonably okay? This guy didn't do anything wrong. His PARENTS were alcoholics. Talk about being punished for the sins of your parents. Stop judging him for what he could have or should have done with his life. He was denied to opportunity to have children because the State of California decided he shouldn't have them. They never compensated him in any way for taking that opportunity away from him and now, it seems, the least that they can do is bury the poor man where he wishes.

    April 12, 2012 at 00:57 | Report abuse | Reply
  23. Peaceboy96

    okay, first off this is messed up no matter which way you spin it.

    Second, the Nazi's did actually learn about eugenics from us.

    Third, the state ought to compensate for this I mean come on another 10K of debt wont hurt 'em too much right?

    Finally, anyone who thinks that eugenics is a great idea is either A) retarded B) completely sadistic and an idiot or C) A republican (not trying to be bi-partisan here, but based on rational observation thats how republicans tend to think. I apologize if I p!ssed anyone off here). Any population of organisms must contain a diverse gene pool in order for that species to function properly. In ones vain attempt to speed up evolution through eugenics is shooting themselves in their own balls. W/o genetic diversity a species will see an increase in fatal and malicious genetic diseases. There is no such thing as a superior race and if their is humans and natural selection are a longgggggggggggggg ways off... unless of course you count epigenetics. But still its a long ways off if not impossible.

    April 12, 2012 at 01:14 | Report abuse | Reply
  24. Tyler

    Sieg Hiel, Sieg Hiel. I recall the Nazi's did the same thing back then. Any person who thinks such things are obviously sick in the head.

    April 12, 2012 at 01:16 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Jerome

      Actually, Californians gave the Nazis lessons in sterilization.

      April 12, 2012 at 05:17 | Report abuse |
    • Jonathan

      Gee, am I glad I don't live in California.

      April 12, 2012 at 13:40 | Report abuse |
  25. Real Injustice

    Charlie Follett's case makes much of the world's/nation's complaints pale, in comparison.

    Rest in Peace, Sir. I wish we were better to you, here in life.

    April 12, 2012 at 01:27 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Arie

      I watched it at home, oraginilly, and the same went to Hero. But Hero was so astonishingly well shot, performed, scored, etc that I went to see it in the theatres when it came out. Same goes to Beat Takeshi's The Blind Swordman Zatiochi. Saw it at home and 6 months later went to see it in theatres for the experience.Maybe I wasn't in the love triangle, magic knives mood so I'm gonna rent it on Blu-ray and re-watch it this week. :O)

      October 14, 2012 at 00:07 | Report abuse |
  26. Jack Caneatnofat

    California better Lawyer up! Other survivors will be coming out...this story is just beginning.

    April 12, 2012 at 02:44 | Report abuse | Reply
  27. Get a life

    First, bury him in a veterans cemetery. He's dead, he has not relatives and he won't know the difference. Besides, he will have someone tend his grave and put flags on it twice a year. Second, addicts should be sterilized.

    April 12, 2012 at 03:24 | Report abuse | Reply
  28. Sean

    I would love to know what happened to the Doctor, the Nurses, the Social Workers etc etc that were part of all this back in 1945 (and before)... sounds to me like they are just as guilty of crimes against humanity as the Nazi's...

    I seem to recall "just following orders" was ruled not a valid defense right about the same time, so state law or not, if any of those people are still alive, its time to throw their butts in jail...

    April 12, 2012 at 03:34 | Report abuse | Reply
  29. mmi16

    When one is deemed 'less than human' – all manner of horrors are justified by the 'humans'.

    April 12, 2012 at 04:22 | Report abuse | Reply
  30. ipmutt

    In 1945 we had just been through about 16 strait years of Democratic leadership. We had a chicken in every pot and this. More good big government leadership. Be carefull what you turn loose. Once the e book prices are lower, they will start working on something just as important as this.

    April 12, 2012 at 04:24 | Report abuse | Reply
  31. james A.

    This is the kind of stuff that starts wars.

    April 12, 2012 at 04:56 | Report abuse | Reply
  32. Jerome

    California has no interest in him now that he cannot vote.

    April 12, 2012 at 05:16 | Report abuse | Reply
  33. LindaB

    First off I think before this is done to anyone it should be for a damn good reason, and not the sins of their parents or their living situation. Being a survivor of this crime, my uncle's Jim and Ed Miller, my aunt's Margaret, Dorthy and I think their was one more were all forced into sterilization because they were poor people living in Sacramento, CA. Thankfully my mother fought hard with even threats to those who wanted to do it to her, or I and my sister and brothers would not be here, my mom was the youngest by many years. But as a child I grew up with my aunt's and uncle's hating my mother because she was able to have kids and my grandmother not allowing us in her home because she couldn't stand the site of us because her other children couldn't give her grand kids. My 70 year old mother lived a life of hatred from her family for something the state did, not her and her children, me, lived without relatives. This is a shame for everyone involved not just the ones who were forced, and the state should pay for this man's burial and to all those victims, and no I don't mean me but my mom who suffered all her 70 years.

    April 13, 2012 at 19:48 | Report abuse | Reply
  34. Lisa

    They will bury him free in a national cemetery since he was a vet yet the family wants a 9k service paid for by ?

    April 14, 2012 at 02:21 | Report abuse | Reply
  35. Evan

    Many people choose not to have children for personal reasons; they feel they cannot emotionally support kids, they have family histories of mental illness, they are gay, and so forth. Some have kids and outlive those children. Not properly educating oneself and building a career, as compared to not having kids because one was forcibly sterilized, is like apples and oranges, two separate issues. If he had kids, suppose he outlived them, or they died from inheriting the very traits which is why they sterilized him? It's wrong to forcibly do what they did, eugenics is wrong, but holding them liable (when he has veterans coverage) should not be tolerated by society.

    I would love to have a huge burial plot on the top of some hill, perhaps (although I really don't, but just saying). As it stands, I will be cremated. My father's cremation was under a thousand dollars, and he was well off when he passed on. He wanted a cremation and simple family memorial. The Veterans Administration could pay for cremation and they can intern his ashes in the cemetery of his choice! What is the problem? The problem is this is newsworthy, pure and simple. Suppose he wanted a giant above ground marble tomb? Is the state liable for that because they forcibly sterilized him in 1945? The state is us. We are the taxpayer, we are the state. Many of us weren't alive in 1945.

    April 15, 2012 at 19:12 | Report abuse | Reply
  36. DFWDelia

    OMG! I can't believe that there are some people who think this program was a good idea and should be used today! That is sick! This poor man was violated in a way that's no different than how the Chinese treat some of their people and we dare criticize them for that when we're apparently no better than they are? OMG!

    April 16, 2012 at 05:44 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Kris

      In china, I think, they waited until you had children, this is more of a Nazi Germany style

      April 18, 2012 at 14:07 | Report abuse |
  37. Rob

    So you want a program, who deceides? Goverment officals? Have you been to a DMV lately? What is the criteria? Vasectomy when he was just 15 years old, completely insane. My Father and Grand Father were Alcholics. I have maybe on beer a week and have never had a drinking problem. Glad I was born after WWII and never lived in Cali. or I would not have two wonderful bright, intelligent kids.

    April 18, 2012 at 13:00 | Report abuse | Reply
    • sharon

      Hello Rob,
      I am one of Charlie's 2 nieces. My mother (Charlie's only sister) had 2 daughters. I want to thank you for your response on what happened to my uncle. Reading the cruel and heartless comments posted by others saddens me. I do not share them with my mother because they are so ugly. She is having a hard enough time grieving the loss of her only sibling.
      I felt a need to thank you for your comments. Hug your children for me and my Uncle Charles.

      April 18, 2012 at 22:25 | Report abuse |
  38. Kris

    Ahh, Eugenics the mix of bad science (no raw data peer review), politics (progressive left), and fear.

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    Islam appears to have the answer – drug dealers including people that sell alcohol would be put to death. Drugs are the problem not the people who become addicted. Any kid who was to smoke crystal meth or crack would become addicted from first time use. Lack of self control with drugs and alcohol is hard wired into the vast majority of us free will is an illusion when it comes to addiction. Considering addictions are activated by the same opiod receptors perhaps one day safe pharmaceuticals will be developed to reverse all addictions. When genes are discovered for psychopathology common to infra-species predators they will be found prevalent in those who push eugenics that's for certain.

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