Flu and You: Virus widespread in half the states
January 28th, 2011
05:45 PM ET

Flu and You: Virus widespread in half the states

Half of the states have widespread flu activity, reports the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

From January 16 to 22, flu activity increased and three flu-related deaths were reported in children, according to the CDC. During this flu season, which started in October, there have been 13 confirmed pediatric deaths.

The highest levels of flu-like activities were reported in the South and Southeast, including Alabama, Louisiana, Virginia and North Carolina.

To keep up the awareness about personal responsibility of preventing flu spread, the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases has launched a public education campaign reminding Americans to cover their sneezes and to practice good hygiene.

According to a recent national poll, cited by the foundation, 68% of Americans did not realize that flu viruses can travel five to six feet from a sneeze or a cough, and 66% admitted they went about daily activities despite experiencing flu symptoms.

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  1. Linda

    I have mixed feelings about the flu shot. Just as I have mixed feelings about conventional medicine, in general and BIG misgivings about most pharmaceuaticals out there. But I HATE the flu and have a compromised immune system, live in New York where I take public transit and half the people seem to be either too stupid or thoughtless to cover their damn mouths when they cough or sneeze, and I know if it's going around, I get it. I am also a part time caregiver to my elderly parents who live cross country. Which means more exposure and an obligation not to give them a lethal virus.
    My personal experience has been when I do get the shot I either don't get the flu or it's flu lite. But gee guys, do we all have to get so nasty when we disagree on everything? Come on! Nobody here knows for sure who is right. Th mysteries of vacines are rather esoteric I think, so what's with all the smug hating here?

    January 29, 2011 at 03:23 | Report abuse | Reply
  2. Mike a real biologist

    I recommend watching "Idiocracy". The movie is a shining example of where our country is going.

    January 29, 2011 at 03:50 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      Yup, it really is.

      January 29, 2011 at 11:06 | Report abuse |
  3. Polymath

    Extended and repeated placebo controlled double blind trials have proven beyond any and all doubt that there is no link between vaccinations and autism or anything else. Can you have a child who is vaccinated and then is diagnosed as autistic? Yes, but it's like this. Suppose you took a paintbrush and flung some paint on the side of a barn wall. Then you took a shotgun and popped a few shells of birdshot into that same wall. Now you would have some places with no paint and no shot, some places with paint but no shot, some places with shot but no paint, and a few places where a pellet of birdshot hit a dot of paint. The fact that the paint was there did not cause the shot to hit the same spot. It was a random coincidence. It's all about statistical analysis and mathematic probability. A certain number of children will become autistic regardless of whether they got the immunizations or not. Some kids get run over on the way to school, but it wasn't because they ate Cheerios instead of Tony TIger flakes, even though some of them did eat the corn flakes on the day they got hit. Association does not prove causality. The percentage of children who are vaccinated then become autistic is the same percentage as those who are not vaccinated and then become autistic. This is NOT a subject where you get to have a POINT OF VIEW. Science is not about opinion, it is about repeatedly testing a hypothesis and determining provable truth through evidence.

    It has recently been shown that the person whose original "study" linking vaccines and autism was a complete fraud. Of the 13 children in the "study", it has been discovered that six had actually been diagnosed as autistic prior to their vaccinations. It has also been proven that the man gave false information regarding all of the other seven children in his "study". NO OTHER STUDY AT ALL has shown any link between vaccinations and autism or any other illness. You can't just invent your own reality. Get over it.

    January 29, 2011 at 03:52 | Report abuse | Reply
    • uplate

      A good friend of mine is anti-vax, her child had no vaccinations and guess what? She ended up with an autism diagnosis.

      January 29, 2011 at 04:46 | Report abuse |
    • Mamaof3

      Ever look into epigenetics? we barely understand epigenetics at this point in time. Environmental exposure has the ability to turn certain genes on/off. Environmental exposures can include but don't have to be limited to vaccines. There is no way at this point in time we can say there is absolutely no connection.

      January 29, 2011 at 14:44 | Report abuse |
    • RN and balanced

      Polymath, I appreciate your appreciation for statistics and probability. The thing that I think many are missing is that as humans, no two are alike. Some are allergic to nuts and some are not. People react differently to different things. I believe in the autism/vaccination link but not strictly, meaning some who have never gotten vaccinated can still be autistic due to other factors that science has yet to understand. It doesn't mean all autism is caused by vaccinations, it's just that some children's reactions to a vaccine will result in autism and some won't. Vaccinations and big pharma have their benefits as well as faults. They are no saints but they do provide a benefit to society. Without the financial motivations, we would not have the medicine necessary to alleviate the symptoms of many diseases. As a nurse who has worked the flu shot program, yes, some get the flu right after the vaccine and some it really helps, and some may get the flu from a completely different strain than that of the vaccination. This all goes back to the fact that we are not all the same and do not all react the same to vaccines, allergens, medications, viruses, etc. All in all, judge not and be not judged and don't feel the need to tell everyone else how to live. Those who are searching are open but you'll just make enemies of the rest.

      January 29, 2011 at 20:36 | Report abuse |
  4. Ziv

    Becca, you must be with AL-CIA-DUH. Is that how you spell it? How dare you suggest that Big-Pharma has conspired against the public. Vaccines are good for you so make sure you get them regularly and take a double dose if you're pregnant. You must also believe in some other crazy conspiracy theories like that chemtrail stuff; People like you need to be sent to Gitmo. The govt is spraying vitamins in the the sky for us so shut up and thank them!

    January 29, 2011 at 04:07 | Report abuse | Reply
  5. humanchoices

    I laid here reading all these opinions. We r born naked & the 1st thing is they clean us off then hand us to the one thing they say is best for the child, our MOTHER. But do the nurses or docs kno if the mother has been vaccinated, no not really but to make the childs immune system strong & fight what the world has exposed its self & mother has with the breast milk. When that child grows do the FDA watch that child, do they really keep track of if or did what white cells kept that child sick or clean bill of health. Do they take samples of ea. milk the mother produces, or if the child CAN'T take her milk then there is what FDA puts out on the shelf.
    Does n e 1 get the point? And my prayers r 2 the families that had a loss of ppl really dnt kno How or what kills or keeps ALIVE. GOD BLESS

    January 29, 2011 at 06:03 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      What "point"? Most of what you posted is unreadable gibberish.

      January 29, 2011 at 15:00 | Report abuse |
    • Ima

      humanchoices is obviously guilty of TWI. Typing While Intoxicated.

      January 29, 2011 at 18:54 | Report abuse |
  6. WJS

    The ability of vaccines to generate high revenue and profits despite being priced at a premium has proven attractive to both existing players in the market and to big pharmaceutical companies who have been watching the development of the market with interest.


    January 29, 2011 at 08:03 | Report abuse | Reply
  7. amanda

    What is the difference, if you get the flu shot it costs money if you don't get a flu shot the tamiflu costs money as well, as a matter of fact more money than a flu shot. Just sayin...

    January 29, 2011 at 09:09 | Report abuse | Reply
  8. Sarah

    Only the very very ill would need tamiflu, healthy people fight it off just fine. The flu shot doesn't work, just ask why won't they ever release the stats about who received the flu shot but got the flu anyway? They have these figures but will never release them because the truth will come out.

    January 29, 2011 at 09:16 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      Oh, nonsense.

      January 29, 2011 at 11:17 | Report abuse |
  9. youreallnuts

    i'm a nurse. the flu vaccine works, but not 100% because flu viruses not only mutate rapidy (which is why there is a different flu vac every year) but there is A LOT of them so the shot covers the 4 most likely to be big in the season its given. you can request it without Thimerosal. MMR, DTAP...seriously people. how many children are dying of whooping cough now? of measles? you would really PREFER to risk your child's life? its not a comfortable death either. how many children used to die of childhood diseases before vaccines? lets go back to that...then you'll be BEGGING for vaccines. hmmm lets do away with the polio vaccine...i'd sure love to see more paralyzed children. and...REALLY? VACCINE COMPANIES MAKE MILLIONS ON VACCINES?!?!?! OMG!!! duhhhhhh....THEY'RE SELLING A PRODUCT! a product that costs money to create and market. so yeah, they make money...just like mcdonald's does (which is WORSE for your children than a vaccine but no one is shutting them down). and autism? umm hello? watch the news much? the doctor who claimed that vaccines cause autism FALSIFIED ALL HIS INFORMATION in a hope to gain money in vaccine lawsuits. IT WAS TOTAL CRAAAAPPPPP. isn't it possible that autism is being over diagnosed? that perhaps IN SOME CASES (NOT ALL), what we used to call mental retardation is being labeled as autism? perhaps because it sounds better...its more designer to say "i have a child with autism" then "i have a child with mental retardation"....who knows....who CARES!!!! would you rather your child DEAD?

    January 29, 2011 at 09:52 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Peace

      Part of the problem is people like you who insist that no children have autism as a result of receiving too many vaccines too early. How do you know this does not cause some of the cases? I completely agree with you that children need some of those vaccinations, but it is getting out-of-hand. Hep. B vaccine as a newborn? Vaccine against Chicken Pox? And why so many all at once?

      I believe the parents who saw drastic changes in their children immediately following vaccination. I believe the immune response very well may have trigger autism in those particular children. Just because there is no study proving it does not make it so. Many study results are falsified in some way (leaving data out, manipulating the process, etc.), especially when it comes to ensuring a profit.

      That doesn't mean parents shouldn't get their children vaccinated, but there is a good reason NOT to trust the government. (Remember the tainted flu vaccines that caused some people to become paralyzed or die back in the '70's?). People aren't "nuts;" they are trying to do what they think is best for their children.

      Personally, I will have my children vaccinated, but I will also be hoping and praying it doesn't trigger autism or some other problem. I don't judge people, but I do think choosing not to vaccinate against ANYthing is a wrong decision. Now that babies are dying from Whopping Cough, because they are catching it from older people who aren't immune, we need to make sure we are finding the right balance regarding whether to vaccinate and for what and when.

      January 29, 2011 at 11:24 | Report abuse |
    • Peace

      My response above should read, "Just because there is no study proving it does not make it NOT so."

      January 29, 2011 at 11:26 | Report abuse |
    • WoodUshutup?

      Just because there isn't a study about little green men landing on Earth doesn't make it not so, either.

      January 29, 2011 at 18:00 | Report abuse |
    • charles s

      When my mother was a child she had a disease which was probably diptheria that almost killed her. With DPT vaccine, you never see diptheria anymore. Do you know anyone who has had diptheria? I remember when polio was common; I know two people who had polio and it has affected them to this day. Vaccines are the greatest gift of medicine and so many do not want it. Vaccines has caused the greatest extension of human life in the world. President Abraham Lincoln lossed his son to diptheria: see http://pediatrics.about.com/od/immunizations/a/408_vac_history.htm .

      January 30, 2011 at 13:16 | Report abuse |
  10. Disgusted

    Yeah and we are told to wash our hands to help prevent spreading the flu.. How many pigs do you see walk out of the stall in the bathroom past the sink without washing??? People are slobs!!!

    January 29, 2011 at 10:51 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      And you're surprised? Look at some of the posts here. There are people here who have no idea what they're talking about. They get all their "knowledge" from spurious sites on the internet and are dumb enough to believe that the CDC and the pharmaceutical companies are part of some huge conspiracy. I wouldn't doubt that there are some who think the flu is caused by the government and that washing one's hands is just kowtowing to "the man."

      As for being rude, if you don't like it, don't read it. No one's holding a gun to your head. If you don't like being told you're posting nonsense, then stop posting it. The flu vaccine works. Studies have proved it. It's safe. Those of you who think that "it doesn't matter if I get the flu; I'm strong. I'll get over it just fine" are forgetting, conveniently, that the vaccine isn't just to protect YOU, you selfish gits. It's to protect others FROM you-the chronically ill, the elderly, those whose immune systems are compromised. They can't all tolerate the vaccine, and when they catch your flu, before you even have any symptoms, they're the ones who don't recover.

      That is why there are pediatric deaths. Because somebody exposed a kid whose immune system WASN'T strong or who wasn't able to tolerate the vaccine.

      Don't like it? Tough toenails.

      January 29, 2011 at 11:16 | Report abuse |
  11. HAPPY

    What the Blip do We Know

    January 29, 2011 at 11:15 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Peace

      Not much.

      Why do some people lead the healthiest lives possible and get cancer at age 28, and other people smoke, drink, and eat bacon every day and live to 100? NO ONE KNOWS, man.

      I believe "luck" plays a large role in health.

      January 29, 2011 at 11:29 | Report abuse |
  12. youreallnuts

    i understand that there being no study supporting a vaccine cause for autism doesn't rule out the possibility. but why now? where are all the autistic people from the 50's? the 60's? the 70's? why is this an issue now? could autism just present itself at the time of vaccinations? maybe thats when the develepmental defficiencies present themselves and it just happens to be at the same time. and i do believe autism is real and i do believe there are people who TRULY DO HAVE IT. but...i think there are a few doctors that dance to the parents tune and over-zealously diagnose autism when there may be another cause for delay.
    yes, the chicken pox vaccine is a little over kill...but....when you think of the elderly who end up with herpes zoster (shingles) from being exposed to children with chicken pox then maybe its not such a bad idea. perhaps consider that vaccine only when neccessary to protect an older or immune compromised family member.
    as for not trusting the government...sure, i can see the point in that. but its the government...and for now we have to deal with it or be radical and change it. it still isn't as bad as some other governments.
    and i understand people aren't nuts....but its nuts to think that something people have been using for decades is suddenly creating a mental delay in children. think about what has been taken off the market since vaccines first came out. i bet they're SAFER than ever.
    and hep B...can cause liver damage/cirrhosis/death and is with you forever and is now epidemic in many asian countried 2billion people infected world wide and its spread through blood. infants are given hep B vaccine at birth for protection in case their mother has it and there wasn't enough time before birth to run her for antibodies or if there is a family member with it...so its just given to every infant...as prevention for a very good reason.
    vaccines are given in groups because of how short childhood is. imagine waiting another year...what if that's the year your child is exposed to whooping cough or measles. and also some parents aren't that great at keeping up on their childrens vaccines so doctors have grouped them together to ensure that the most vaccines are given just in case the child doesn't see a doctor again for a while.

    January 29, 2011 at 12:21 | Report abuse | Reply
  13. Todd A

    I got into an argument with a co-worker about the flu shot and children. I told him that I would never get in nor would I give it to my children. He stated that it was people like me and my children that kept getting his kids sick. I asked him how that coulkd be? After all he had gotten his kids the flu shot.

    Point of the story, if the flu shot really worked, you shouldn't have to worry about whether or not other people got it.

    Case closed.

    January 29, 2011 at 12:47 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      You really don't know how to read, do you?

      January 29, 2011 at 13:15 | Report abuse |
    • WoodUshutup?

      I guess since seatbelts don't prevent all injury in a car accident, you don't wear those, either, do you? Since parachutes don't prevent all deaths for skydivers, I suppose you don't think they should bother wearing them? Since planes do go down and most of the time being belted into your seat won't save you, why bother wearing seat belts there, either?

      Read the explanation of how vaccines for flu are formulated. Educate yourself.

      January 29, 2011 at 13:18 | Report abuse |
  14. Diva

    I am not sure what WoodUshutup is doing in this conversation. He probably has nothing to do, sits in his computer chair growing a belly to the grown, insulting others by trying to get his point across. He either needs some good excercise not the get the flu, or get some more flu shots, or get some compassion and attention from his cat.

    January 29, 2011 at 13:33 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      What's the "grown", Diva?

      Did you mean "ground", perhaps?

      Yes, posts like yours are oh, so convincing.

      January 29, 2011 at 14:21 | Report abuse |
    • WoodUshutup?

      By the way, Diva, honey, I suspect you're about 13, so let me explain to you what I'm doing here. I'm doing the same thing you are. I just have a better education and more intelligence. Just FYI, dearie, I'm female, wear a size 6, exercise 4-5 days a week, AND I get a flu shot.

      What do you do? It appears you can't even write a simple sentence without misspelling words children should have learned to use in 3rd grade. I suggest you get off your duff and do your homework. Don't forget your picture dictionary, dear.

      January 29, 2011 at 14:44 | Report abuse |
  15. NasaExpertScientist

    If nobody believes about the End of the World please visit this website that NASA just created http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/may21/

    January 29, 2011 at 14:16 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      Oh, NASA just created this website? Do tell. Give me the name of anyone at NASA that has a thing to do with this claptrap.

      January 29, 2011 at 14:41 | Report abuse |
    • NasaExpertScientist

      Dr.Bill Atwood

      January 29, 2011 at 17:42 | Report abuse |
    • WoodUshutup?

      Nice try, liar.

      January 29, 2011 at 17:48 | Report abuse |
    • Eeyore

      If NASA has such a website, why doesn't a search OF NASA'S WEBSITE show any such thing, you fraud?

      January 29, 2011 at 18:02 | Report abuse |
    • NasaExpertScientist

      I am the director of NASA Dr.Bill Atwood for everyone's question of who I am and if you want please contact me.

      January 30, 2011 at 18:00 | Report abuse |
  16. Glades2

    I have to agree with the CDC on this issue – the chance of complications from the vaccine are far lower than the complications from the flu. At least two or three people that I know – all fairly young and in good health otherwise – have been struggling with the flu for the past several weeks, and in asking them none did receive the vaccine. Vaccines for the flu are like vaccines for polio, tetanus, etc. – they are given to stop the spread of disase, though there will always be those who consider any vaccine to be harmful – anyone who's had polio or tetanus or a severe case of the flu would quickly disagree...

    January 29, 2011 at 14:20 | Report abuse | Reply
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  18. Mamaof3

    Read some of the Cochrane database review studies on flu shots.

    January 29, 2011 at 14:42 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      I have. And?

      January 29, 2011 at 14:59 | Report abuse |
  19. Supernova

    I am working as among those who inspect rocks and microorganisms from other spheres in the cosmos and yes there is an
    Ass Teriod coming. Get the flu shot...Vaccines are good but not just for anything. People are free to choose and infants and elderly mostly need it.

    January 29, 2011 at 14:46 | Report abuse | Reply
    • notsofast

      You work at NASA? Oh, good. I'm Queen Elizabeth. Please contact me on my Facebook page. I have some questions about Stonehenge and alien visitation.

      January 29, 2011 at 15:52 | Report abuse |
  20. Supernova

    When the BIG MUTANT FLU VIRUS comes those taking vaccines for every little virus floating in the air will need to visit ShutEyeTown- Cemetery. Vaccines are good for deadly diseases but not just for anything...get into some fitness program. And as for the Ass teriod it is for real so get a flu shot.

    January 29, 2011 at 14:52 | Report abuse | Reply
  21. Pedro at NASA

    I work at NASA washing cars for the employees. I take the V shot because it can get cold outside here in Houston and it can get very hot too. Its a way to keep me warm and safe. During lunch or evening I hear the employees talk about Asteroids coming towards us. I get a little fearful sometimes. The Vodka Shot really helps through the days and months.

    January 29, 2011 at 15:24 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ima

      Fianlly, someone who makes sense.

      January 29, 2011 at 18:58 | Report abuse |
  22. amanda

    Groin would fit as well

    January 29, 2011 at 16:54 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      See, there's that little problem with the "reply" function. I suggest you figure out how that works, honey.

      January 29, 2011 at 17:33 | Report abuse |
  23. amanda

    Can't you people at least argue about something usual...like the government?

    January 29, 2011 at 16:55 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      Why are you posting on a blog about the flu if you want to argue about the government? Do you have this much trouble figuring out how to tie your shoes?

      January 29, 2011 at 17:22 | Report abuse |
  24. amanda

    Wouldshutup do you believe in xanax? do you think that works, apparently not...

    January 29, 2011 at 16:57 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      Sure it works. Apparently, you need some. Go see your shrink.

      January 29, 2011 at 17:14 | Report abuse |
  25. amanda

    Hmmm...regular m.d. Will accommodate

    January 29, 2011 at 17:17 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      Never mind shoelaces, sweetcheeks; try to figure out how to use the "reply" button.

      Jesus melmo.

      January 29, 2011 at 17:26 | Report abuse |
    • Ima

      It's not a button, at least not on this site. It's a hyperlink.

      January 29, 2011 at 19:00 | Report abuse |
  26. WoodUshutup?

    It cracks me up when geniuses like Amanda and Diva get all exercised because someone is posting things they don't like. Their posts are so predictable. Invariably, such scholars question why someone would post (when in fact, they are doing so themselves), then proceed to attempt an insult (nearly always falling short due to their limited vocabulary and intelligence), and leave without delivering a single cogent thought.

    I guess they're between tricks.

    January 29, 2011 at 17:18 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Ima

      Some of the previous posters are right... you're not not intelligent and scholarly, as you'd like to believe. You're just really, really mean and nasty.

      January 29, 2011 at 19:02 | Report abuse |
    • LanaHere

      Well, getting vaccinated is important. I am sad to see people coming on here spreading words against it. People like that put other people lives in danger. So I'm glad woodushutup is posting.

      January 29, 2011 at 20:52 | Report abuse |
    • WoodUshutup?

      OOooh, my red candy heart is broken! How WILL I ever recover from the slings and arrows of...idiots? Woe is me.

      January 29, 2011 at 21:12 | Report abuse |
    • WoodUshutup?

      By the way, Ima, you have two "nots" in your sentence. I take it one cancels out the other, right? Oh, and also, just so you know, the comma in that sentence is incorrect.

      Any other questions?

      January 29, 2011 at 21:16 | Report abuse |
  27. WiseMan

    Cure for the flu – eat garlic except if you have heart conditions. To boost your immune s. drink blue berry juice. To avoid getting bald, rub your bald area so there is blood flow then apply Pigeon feces – the acid penetrates and clears the channels for hair to grow. Avoid a droopy face in the morning by not drinking too much water late at night. Dark circles around the eyes – carefully rub and avocado seed around the eyes before going to bed. For cardio – make love to your loved one. For all muscle strength swim. For beautiful skin role in black mud. For a flexible lean body – yoga. If you want people to like you give them a hand. If you want to be happy go to Rio de Janeiro or go fishing to Belize. If you want to know about the End of the World understand the Mayan Calendar.

    January 29, 2011 at 19:31 | Report abuse | Reply
  28. pleaseshutup

    @woodushutup – would you shut up !! you complain about everyones post and your the idiot arguing like a child calling people names ! and the 13 infants may have died either way it may have just been their time to go only God knows !

    January 29, 2011 at 20:40 | Report abuse | Reply
    • LanaHere

      I'm glad woodushutup is online posting. People should get themselves and their children vaccinated. It's a must. Last year when the flu shot was not availaable for everyone, my son almost died from the flu. It was a close call. This year, his doctor got enough flu vaccine to give to my son back in Sept. Needless to say, I was so happy.

      January 29, 2011 at 20:50 | Report abuse |
    • Eeyore

      It's "you're", you moron. What kind of God kills infants? Is that your idea of a merciful Almighty Lord?

      Please, you nitwit. Get a clue.

      January 29, 2011 at 21:11 | Report abuse |
    • WoodUshutup?

      Hey, genius, did you read the CDC report? They died of influenza. Not "something else." They may have had underlying conditions that contributed to their deaths, but had they not been infected with flu, they might very well be alive.

      Can you prove otherwise, you little twit?

      January 29, 2011 at 21:18 | Report abuse |
    • WoodUshutup?

      And thanks, lana, I am glad there's a voice of reason posting. I'm happy your son got his vaccination early this year. It galls me to see ignorant posters pretend that pediatric deaths from influenza are simply unavoidable. Your son's case should show them otherwise.

      January 29, 2011 at 21:21 | Report abuse |
  29. Rushidhruva

    Hey,wouldUshutp,WOULD YOU REALLY SHUT UP???You're extremely annoying.Yeah,you're the greatest genius who knows everything and everyone else who don't share your views are somehow less than you intellectually,FYI,getting vaccinated or not is each person's personal choice and something a moron like you can't obviously understand,yes ,it may have worked for you very well,not necessarily for others,so stop pouncing on people,and learn some humility and decency ,it might do you good.

    January 29, 2011 at 21:40 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      No, I won't. If you so bothered by my posts, then leave. I'm bothered by your ignorance, and you haven't done me or the rest of the world the courtesy of blowing out of here, even though you've done nothing but post nonsense. Why should I do what you want?

      January 29, 2011 at 22:46 | Report abuse |
  30. DEA

    I would love to be responsible and not spread the flu, but some of my teachers will not give make up exams or except late home work, so I go to school and spread the pain. Enjoy everyone.

    January 29, 2011 at 22:11 | Report abuse | Reply
  31. Optimistic1

    Wow, Wood, you really are rude and condescending. I don't know if you realize this or not, but the more you spout off, the more unintelligent you come across. Just sayin'.
    As far as the topic at hand, I've been a 3rd and 5th grade teacher for seven years and have not missed one day due to the flu or any other sickness, and I have never received a flu shot. At the first school I worked at, a teacher intern in his lower 30's died suddenly about a week after a flu shot. I'm not making any claim that this was the cause, but he certainly seemed healthy up until the day he just didn't show up for work. Anyway...that scared me enough to keep me from ever getting the shot. I'm sure that even if it was his cause of death, it was a very rare case. But even though such severe reactions might not be common place, how can anyone know what the long term effects of these shots might be in terms of how it might alter the function of our immune system? I strongly believe that I avoid the flu, despite being around sick kids all the time, by eating a nutritious diet, exercising, and getting plenty of sleep. The way most of us in America operate these days can make doing all three of those quite a challenge, but we must make it a point if we want to live strong and healthy.
    Wood...feel free to bash me now for my screen name, or a type-o , because I don't have enough science to back up my opinions, or just because you have nothing better to do. Just to let you know, I'll never see it, because after I post this I've got other things to do and won't be back on this thread again. I honestly and sincerely hope someone imparts some happiness into your life today

    January 29, 2011 at 22:12 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      You're not terribly bright if you don't understand the difference between anecdote and statistics. Learn what it is. Your never having had the flu means not a blessed thing.

      January 29, 2011 at 22:40 | Report abuse |
  32. WiseMan

    The first sign of a person with intellect is humility and the understanding that he she does not know everything. This man – WoodUshutup he needs help of some sort, attention, exercise, a job, family or someone to help him. There are dates posted from him since yesterday. He probably has hair growing from nose and ears has nothing to do except annoy people in this posting series. Someone should help him out really.

    January 29, 2011 at 22:14 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      You seem to have trouble with reading comprehension, Unwise Man. I'm not male; I'm a woman. I'm in good health and exercise at least 4 times weekly. I eat a good diet and wear a size 6. I have a job at which I'm very successful and a loving family. I don't care if I'm not posting with the humility you think befits me. Too bad if you don't like it. What I AM posting is the truth. I don't know all there is to know about the flu or vaccines or medicine, but I do know a good bit. I'm not going to be polite and retiring to posters who write drivel and misinformation, and if you don't like it, bugger off. I won't care a bit.

      January 29, 2011 at 22:43 | Report abuse |
  33. Shark

    This guy WoodUshutup does not understand. It is not that you are a pro-flu-vaccination guys that we are directing your attention to. We are directing your attention at your below human respect and degradable comments to those that differ in opinion with yours. Your comprehension is the one at a loss. People here are also writing comments not essays that are being graded by teachers and they do not have to be politically correct. Truth is relative remember that.

    January 29, 2011 at 23:09 | Report abuse | Reply
    • A+

      WoodUshutup comes across as well educated, well read, able to discern good from bad sources, and passionate. It's refreshing as compared to commentors here who try to pass themselves off as all knowing, yet can't express themselves intelligently, can't spell, and jump to ridiculous conclusions. The latter are poster children for the Dunning-Kruger effect

      January 30, 2011 at 10:31 | Report abuse |
  34. john

    I was lucky last year. My wife and both my kids had the swine flu and I never got sick.

    January 30, 2011 at 06:31 | Report abuse | Reply
  35. Rushidhruva

    Shark,i think this idiot is not going to shut up after all,how pathetic,still blabbing on about his own point of view.It's the way some people are ,can't help it.

    January 30, 2011 at 08:53 | Report abuse | Reply
  36. ParanoiaDestroyYa

    The same suckers who believe docs and drug companies are in a conspiracy to keep you sick to make more $$ are the same sheeple who believe their Chiropractors who tell them they need "adjustments" twice a week (or month, depending on your $$) in order to keep you "healthy". Gee, when my real docs and surgeons heal me, I don't have to come back until I need them again. Chiro's and the anti-medical establishment are the biggest scam artists of the century, and their patients, the must gullible, ignorant people on the planet. Not suprisingly, a high percentage of anti-doctor folk are fundamentalist xtians. They see this as a religious vs. science fight, and since science is anti-religion (in their closed, limited minds), then Chiro (who feast on the religious) must be the white knight. People are so dumb. Insurance co's like paying for Chiro's. Cheaper than real medicine, and when the people die, no more medical care needed. Want to stay alive the longest? Stay away from chiroquacks.

    January 30, 2011 at 08:58 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Lou

      You are such gullible ignorant hypocrite...

      I can come up with a couple that mainstream medical establishment and gov't causing enormous damages...

      1) widespread vitamin D deficiency that will cost us 4 trillion dollars in medical expense over the next 10 years in USA alone. Go to vitamin D council website.

      2) Saturated fat and cholesterol consumption have NEVER been proven conclusively to cause heart disease. It's the opposite. Excessive carbohydrate consumption is really the cause for diabetes and heart disease. American heart Association is a biggest rip off ever (and American Cancer Society too). It's all in the journals. You're probably not smart enough to be able to read them so you just rely on extreme biased media like CNN, Fox, etc. How pathetic....

      January 30, 2011 at 21:32 | Report abuse |
  37. Rachael

    "A new study confirms yet again what many prior studies have shown [see list at end], that ‘flu vaccination is largely ineffective [despite what Government "health" officials want you to believe – but where of course will they be looking for their next job when they retire at 50 on generous government pensions]: Jefferson T, et al. Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy adults (Review). Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2010 Jul 7;(7):CD001269."


    January 30, 2011 at 09:03 | Report abuse | Reply
  38. db

    I personally keep my children home when they are sick, but know quite a few people who don't. But you know why?? Because in this "wonderful" country, parents only have a limited number of days to take off from work. If they take more than allowed, they may lose their jobs. Maybe something should have been put into the healthcare reform to take care of this aspect as well...

    January 30, 2011 at 12:44 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Yodawisdom

      RE: "If they take more than allowed, they may lose their jobs. Maybe something should have been put into the healthcare reform to take care of this aspect as well..." by db

      Law already exists to protect you/your employment status...It's called Americans with Disability Act and the paperwork needed is a "Family Medical Leave" form, which you can get for your own illness and time off for treatment or to care for a family member who needs your assistance. No employer can fire you if you legitimately have this paperwork completed. As a physician I have been asked many times to complete these forms. No patient or patient's family member has ever lost their employ because of time they needed to take off. The law does not state your employer needs to pay you so if you have used up your sick/personal/vacation time don't expect to receive reimbursement. And why should anyone expect to get paid for not working? As an employer I pay my employees in return for their performing their job which allows the office to run smoothly. Employees are for the most part in this country 'at will employees'. This means if given benefits are exceeded; No work = No pay, yoda wisdom does say!

      January 30, 2011 at 13:45 | Report abuse |
    • Peace

      "At will" employment means they CAN fire you for missing too much work, regardless of paperwork. They can simply give an alternative reason, create a paper trail of lies, and fire you. You may or may not receive unemployment benefits, but you no longer have your job. I think we all know this is the truth.

      January 30, 2011 at 16:58 | Report abuse |
    • emplawyer

      yoda – you're wrong about FMLA. First, it only applies to employers with more than 50 employees. That's not most people. Next, even if you do work for a 50+employee company, you must have worked there for at least one year and for at least 1250 hours in that last year to qualify. Not all employees have. Third, FMLA excuses only serious health conditions – not simple flus or colds, unless they require hospitalization (which makes them then serious, however brief). So FMLA isn't helpfor for MANY people. And you are correct that it doesn't infolve wage replacement. Even those lucky enough to be able to take the time without fearing job loss – not all people, of course – may not be able to afford to do so. so the lack of paid sick leave is a real issue in addition to the lack of protected sick leave.

      January 31, 2011 at 00:11 | Report abuse |
  39. janie lierle

    all I know is this flu hangs on forever!

    January 30, 2011 at 13:45 | Report abuse | Reply
  40. sandy

    For some..they get a shot...nothing happens...for others...it does..its all about that particular persons immune system.. As well as their ability to handle what's being injected. My ucle died after getting a vaccine...as well as my cousin.. I was in a coma after getting the MMR.. My son died 9 days after getting his 9 week old shots. – work in themedical field... Have seen soooo many problems with flu shots. Also.. Just because it says preservative free.. Doesn't mean that there iS no preservatives in it. I agree that vaccines hAve saved countless lives...but they have killed and hurt others. To say vaccines are perfectly safe is a far cry from reality...watch your child die after getting vaccinated.. You won't be so high and mighty.

    January 30, 2011 at 13:48 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Peace

      I am so sorry to hear about what happened to your family members, your baby. I believe you and agree that while vaccines are safe for most people, some people's immune systems react abnormally. Sorry for what you've been through.

      January 30, 2011 at 16:56 | Report abuse |
    • Lou

      Vitamin D deficiency killed far more people these days and it is mainstream medical establishment and government's fault. Don't fall for that "vaccines saves people". it is a lot more complex than you'd ever realize. Just widespread vitamin D deficiency alone in USA will cost us 4 trillion dollars in medical expense over the next 10 years. Compare that to vaccines...

      Ironically, vitamin D at proper dosage or blood level (much higher than what gov't tells us to take) is actually universe vaccine/antibiotic against cancer, flu, cold, etc. It takes me 20 dollars a year to keep my vitamin D at optimal level to prevent cancer, asthma, allergies, flu, cold, etc. Compare that to having to treat all of those illnesses due to vitamin D deficiency.

      January 30, 2011 at 21:26 | Report abuse |
  41. Vehm

    The flu gets the Chuck Norris vaccine.

    January 30, 2011 at 16:58 | Report abuse | Reply
  42. helen

    My son and I both got the flu last week– we had the flu shot?? He said a kid a school was sick - the prior week. We are in the mid-south

    January 30, 2011 at 18:31 | Report abuse | Reply
  43. NASA Astronomer

    We have noticed Alien aircrafts hovering over certain cities. Sometimes Aliens sneeze out...now we have half of the states with the flu. These little Green Guys are to blame.

    January 30, 2011 at 18:33 | Report abuse | Reply
  44. Lou

    We get flu because our vitamin D level gets too low during the winter due to lack of sun. Pretty easy to avoid flu, cold, etc by simply taking enough vitamin D supplement through the winter. I take 5,000 IU a day and no cold, flu, etc. It is actually what your immune system uses to fight flu, cold, etc directly right away before you get sick.

    Simply google flu and vitamin D.

    January 30, 2011 at 19:31 | Report abuse | Reply
  45. Lou


    You're a moron. I have something better. http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/2006-oct.shtml

    Vitamin D works far better than flu vaccines.

    January 30, 2011 at 21:38 | Report abuse | Reply
  46. Lou


    I've read most of your comments and you have to be one of biggest idiots in the world. It is laughable that you tried to pretend that you know more than others when in fact you are really brainwashed to think that. Pretty pathetic.

    So... you say that there's no link between vaccines and autism? Well... if you look at it from another direction... not really a true root cause but more of a trigger due to root cause...

    Virtually all autistic kids and their mothers had very low vitamin D. In fact, the rate is higher in black people due to dark skin that protect you from the sun but that is in Africa at the equator where the sun is much stronger compared to parts of USA. Anyway, those Somalia people living in the northern USA states are having major problems with vitamin D deficiency due to weak sun (rather UVB sunlight) leading to such low vitamin D level.

    Not to mention sun scare that has never been proven conclusively to prevent malignant type of skin cancer. In fact, it is the opposite. Avoid sun, you see dramatic rise of cancer rate, autism, autoimmune system, diabetes type one, cold. flu, etc.... http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/research.shtml So... conclusion... you are a moron. By far.

    January 30, 2011 at 21:59 | Report abuse | Reply
  47. Judge

    I judge you all unworthy to participate in this type of forum. Just look at the namecalling and idiot talk. My son asked me why people are so stupid.....I told them...they just are......thanks for giving him someone to laugh at.....and what will you say about this comment.....some more idiot nonsense.....get a life.

    January 30, 2011 at 22:48 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Lou

      Judge Idiot,

      Are we living in Idiocracy world yet?

      January 30, 2011 at 23:25 | Report abuse |

    My take is that Judge , WoodUshutup, and A+ are the same individuals. Judge once you join in the fray you are part of it too. So you are part of those being laughed at. You are closer to the fire than you think.

    January 30, 2011 at 23:42 | Report abuse | Reply
    • WoodUshutup?

      Nope. Not the same as any other poster here. Thanks for playing.

      February 7, 2011 at 10:28 | Report abuse |
  49. elizabeth lopez

    I absolutly love reading everyone discussions, everyone one makes wonderful points! but i just wanted to say that every person is unique and different in every way!! our genes are different, the way we think, they way we act, our beliefs ect.....one flu shot is not going to be completely effective for every single person in the whole world... i believe the main goal is to prevent death not the flu its self, everyone makes their own decisions on what they will or wont do based on their own experiences through out their life....so why try to push your way or belief upon someone else? as long as what you choose is what u really want and are happy with that is all that matters, right?? but i do have to agree that it wouldnt hurt for people to have more sick time off of work, it could help to prevent the spread of anything contagious!! i have never had a problem with the flu but my sinuses hate me 🙂 any good ideas to help with that problem??

    January 31, 2011 at 00:40 | Report abuse | Reply
  50. elizabeth lopez

    I would also like to add that i understand getting heated through out a discussion but i do believe name calling is childish and uncalled for......there is absolutly nothing wrong with a discussion/ argument as long as it is kept clean, and adult!! keeping an open mind never hurts....dont shoot down someone elses beliefs because u feel they are wrong, make your opinion count sure!! people will believe what they choose and anyone with a belief for a long time curtainly wont change just because someone else feels they should rather your facts our true or not! please i will ask that you guys try to keep it a civil, mature, and healthy discussion!i myself would much rather ready a forum without the negative attacks on someone elses mental compasity!!

    January 31, 2011 at 00:56 | Report abuse | Reply
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