Miley, a mint-like herb and Mexican shaman
December 13th, 2010
02:02 PM ET

Miley, a mint-like herb and Mexican shaman

Not to be confused with saliva, it’s called salvia.

According to various reports, the former Disney starlet was smoking the hallucinogen and the video has gone viral. People.com has more on Miley Cyrus’ 18th birthday celebration that showed her cackling and rambling incoherently after taking a hit of the herb.

Now,  there are reports that Web sales of salvia have spiked after getting the Miley bump.

Salvia gives people mini-hallucinations that are  intense, but short.  It could affect visual perception, mood and body sensations, and alter perception of reality, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

It’s a commonly used herb in Latin America – part of the mint family used by Mexican shaman for healing for centuries.  It activates opioid receptors in the brain, but not much is known about salvia except for the abundance of YouTube videos filmed of people tripping.

The government has had its eyes on the hallucinogen and several states have banned its use – especially since its use has exceeded that of ecstasy among high school seniors.

So Johns Hopkins scientists tested the drug in a highly controlled study.  The findings were released last week.

The researchers took the active ingredient, salvinorin A from salvia divinorum and gave it to four healthy volunteers.  This is considered the first study on humans on the effects of salvia.

The study published in the journal Drug and Alcohol Dependence, showed that the effects kicked in immediately – with a peak strength occurring after two minutes, according to a Johns Hopkins press release.

Salvinorin A wore off by 20 minutes and did not change heart rate or blood pressure.  No adverse effects were reported.  This could have happened because all the volunteers were healthy.  Despite a lack of evidence of harm in the experiment, lead author, Matthew W. Johnson, warned that the sample size was extremely small and that driving after using the drug could pose risks.

The participants said they felt like they had left reality and gone somewhere else after smoking the herb.

soundoff (160 Responses)
  1. SAl

    You know, I really hate it when American moms see their kids' icons doing drugs and then want those drugs to be prohibited. Unfortunately if you make it illegal two things are going to happen: 1.) the demand is going to skyrocket, 2.) the cartels will get more money. I believe that our bodies are our own business, and if people want to alter their minds, they should be allowed to do so. The government has NO RIGHT to tell me what i can and can't put into my body. Prohibition never works. If anything this could be more regulated, but don't make it flat out illegal.

    December 13, 2010 at 14:49 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Set

      Freedom is only guaranteed so far as it doesn't negatively affect other people. THAT is what they're doing tests for. They want to figure out if the side-effects it creates will leave a person incapacitated, dangerous to themselves or others, or incapable of operating vehicles safely. IE: Will they end up slamming into someone on the road because of the effects of the drug? Are they capable of controlling their own actions so as not to harm themselves or others?

      Until the full effects are thoroughly studied, it should be illegal. So yes, the government has every right to tell you what you can or can not put it your body when there's the possibility it might harm others.

      December 13, 2010 at 15:01 | Report abuse |
    • jenfly

      So do you think it is okay to let anyone run around high on Meth?

      December 13, 2010 at 15:31 | Report abuse |
    • jackaroo

      @Set, they tried that with alcohol, prohibition does not work! They are trying that with marijuana, does not work! Definition of insanity = "Trying the same thing repeatedly expecting a different result"

      December 13, 2010 at 15:51 | Report abuse |
    • Niech

      @Set Something shouldn't be prohibited because they can't prove it WON'T harm someone, but because they CAN prove it WILL. And even then, if it only hurts the person who is actually consumes the substance, so what? Somebody who eats McDonalds every day is certainly adversely affecting their own health; should the government limit or even ban junk food consumption altogether (believe me, this debate is coming). Paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson, if it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, it should make no difference. We've always talked a great game in this country, but the fact of the matter is the government does not recognize our bodies as our own property; if they did we would be free to put what we want into them. And that's not even taking into account the black market effects and the crime which inevitably proliferates through prohibition. I agree with SAI. Our drug laws are a travesty, and a dangerous one at that.

      December 13, 2010 at 16:14 | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      Driving while impaired should cover the use of this drug while operating a motor vehicle (if it does or not, I'm not sure) My point though, is that if you are stationary in a privately owned area and you want to do this drug, go ahead. When you venture out of that area and pose a risk to others, then that should be illegal. Much like the use of alcohol.

      December 13, 2010 at 16:23 | Report abuse |
    • Paul


      No need to worry about people driving while under the influence of salvia. They won't know what a car is for about 5 minutes after a hit and wouldn't be able to find one if they wanted to ...

      December 13, 2010 at 16:56 | Report abuse |
    • 2ndhandsmoke

      But yet smoking tobacco is still legal?? Oh please, let's not be hypocritical here! As long as smoking tobacco is still legal to purchase and smoke, the Federal Gov't has absolutely no credibility for trying "to protect" it's citizens.

      December 13, 2010 at 17:14 | Report abuse |
    • cordobes

      So, guns in the street are OK, but an HERB in my house is not??

      December 13, 2010 at 18:02 | Report abuse |
    • Dbarron

      Do we really know what anything is going to do to us... Look at all the drugs that are ok'd everyday by the FDA only to find out several years later that it is causing heart attacks, stroke, death or oily discharge to name a few. My god the side effects of the crap the GOVERNMENT is oking for us to take seem to be worse then what they are trying to fix... Again, do they really care about our well being. And I agree with another post... Uncle Sam says cigarettes are ok... How many lives is that ending on a daily basis.

      December 13, 2010 at 18:54 | Report abuse |
    • moosey3

      so when does the govenment intervene. before or after someone goes a trip that could cause one person to harm another? or after someone gets into a car and kills someone while on salvia? anything that alters your mind to feel like it takes you to another reality is dangerous. yeah its your body but its the other body that someone could harm you should worry about.

      December 13, 2010 at 20:51 | Report abuse |
    • Jen

      I agree, people should be able to put whatever they want into their bodies. However, I also believe that the punishment for injuring someone else on a substance should be death. Not death row after 20 years, but a nice public hanging with witnesses and t-shirts. See, we should all get what we want no matter what it costs other people. Try having a child and thinking of some idiot cracked out on "innocent" salvia running them down with a car. Then tell me what you feel should and shouldn't be allowed.

      December 13, 2010 at 20:55 | Report abuse |
    • Xeon Saint

      I don't see what this has to do with Carnie Wilson getting fatter. We have to stop her. It's not right, she needs to share her food.

      December 14, 2010 at 01:58 | Report abuse |
    • David Williams

      Ok TMZ and CNN, shut the * up. Miley did nothing illegal. I am a 62 guy, not one of her fans. I have come to the point though that CNN has very little to offer of value, and TMZ none.

      December 14, 2010 at 02:28 | Report abuse |
    • h3110w0r1d

      Freedom is not a guarantee, it only is if you are foolish enough to believe everything you're told.

      December 14, 2010 at 08:30 | Report abuse |
    • h3110w0r1d

      @jenfly, Doctors and the medical industry believe its fine for people to run around on meth, thats why they prescribe Ritalin and aderal and various other substances that react very similar to meth. You need to learn more about drugs girl. They even prescribe meth to people with autism. Enjoy universal healthcare, free narcotics for the US.

      December 14, 2010 at 08:32 | Report abuse |
    • Ty

      Set you brainwAshed monkey. Default status should not be illegal while we wait for the government to determine what is safe for us. By your reasoning everything should be illegal until government gives its approval. People like you are more dangerous than salvia, you don't need to be on drugs to have lost the ability to use your faculties.

      December 14, 2010 at 09:27 | Report abuse |
    • Clay

      @Jen: you said "I agree, people should be able to put whatever they want into their bodies. However, I also believe that the punishment for injuring someone else on a substance should be death. Not death row after 20 years, but a nice public hanging with witnesses and t-shirts. See, we should all get what we want no matter what it costs other people. Try having a child and thinking of some idiot cracked out on "innocent" salvia running them down with a car. Then tell me what you feel should and shouldn't be allowed."

      LOL then i guess there will be 40k public hangings every year from people that drive under the influence of alcohol.

      December 14, 2010 at 10:38 | Report abuse |
    • ThatScreenNameIsAlreadyTaken

      Salvia would probably be more like LSD or DMT if it was made illegal, not like coke and weed.

      Yes jenfly, Meth is probably safer then Salvia in a public situation.

      December 14, 2010 at 11:37 | Report abuse |
    • Marie

      Wow, this is an intelligent statement. Sure hope you do go tripping on your drugs and then get behind the wheel of a car and kill an entire family. But, OH, it is ok, cause you can do whatever you want. Loser!

      December 15, 2010 at 11:11 | Report abuse |
    • Muneeb Khan

      Tony, you make a good point. I think i agree with you.

      December 29, 2010 at 22:11 | Report abuse |
  2. peter klika

    Good job on giving Miley and her "flavor of the month" drug a free publicity shot. When she does cocaine will we also give her more free publicity? Why does the American media worship these moronic tarts? Why not just ignore her antics and maybe give free publicity to a more worthy young woman. Peter Klika, Kapaau, Hawaii (far from the mindless celebrity worship)

    December 13, 2010 at 14:50 | Report abuse | Reply
    • ehreval

      It's not the media that are worshipping Miley and the rest.... It's us. The moment the ratings and page hits start to drop for stories on Miley, Taylor Momsen and the rest, the media will stop covering them. So long as we, the public, continue to give great ratings and tons of page hits to the stories, the media will continue to slavishly cover them, and for good reason: It's in the media's best interest. It's our bad, not theirs.

      December 14, 2010 at 11:54 | Report abuse |
  3. Terry P

    "The participants said they felt like they had left reality and gone somewhere else after smoking the herb."

    Sounds like inside the beltway............

    December 13, 2010 at 15:18 | Report abuse | Reply
  4. lewy

    She cackles and rambles incoherently without drugs...

    December 13, 2010 at 15:33 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Paul

      ^^^ Best comment of the day ...

      December 13, 2010 at 16:53 | Report abuse |
    • Debi

      You hit it right on the nail!!!!!!

      December 13, 2010 at 23:32 | Report abuse |
  5. mike hunt

    "The government has had its eyes on the hallucinogen and several states have banned its use – especially since its use has exceeded that of ecstasy among high school seniors." - so kids turn to a safer alternative and so the government has its eye on it and several states have banned it? when is america going to get over its "anything that makes you have fun or feel good is bad for you" kick?

    December 13, 2010 at 15:34 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Defender

      as soon as everyone realises they're being fooled by a bunch of hypocritical religious nutjobs

      December 13, 2010 at 16:01 | Report abuse |
    • Martha M.

      What an insanely biased and ignorant thing to say – religion doesn't even play into this conversation. Many religious people have no issues with using herbs like marijuana because they are naturally grown.... and God did say to use what the Earth provides. But I'm sure you wouldn't know that because you only choose to see what your narrowed vision allows, making you as hypocritical as those you accuse of being such.

      "Drugs" are prohibited by the government simply because of greed – as soon as they figure out a way to tax these natural herbs, I'm sure they'll be much more likely to consider legalizing them.

      December 13, 2010 at 20:07 | Report abuse |
  6. jackaroo

    Banning this or any substance creates more artificial criminals (crimes without victims), as if we don't have enough already. Why do we keep criminalizing people over what they put in their own bodies? Substance abuse should be a health issue, not a criminal one!

    December 13, 2010 at 15:45 | Report abuse | Reply
    • funny

      nothing more to say...

      December 14, 2010 at 11:35 | Report abuse |
    • funny

      No they are criminals not because of what they've been putting in their bodies but because they have been harming others (not miley). Ex, driving while intoxicated. I love to drink occassionally but to get in a car and risking others is another. I have unfortunatley been hit twice in one year because of idiots like that with my kids in the car. Luckily we survived.

      December 14, 2010 at 11:39 | Report abuse |
  7. Jimmy Johnson

    Wait, so the drug had no adverse effects on the people's health, yet we're still discussing whether it should be banned? Everyone tell me how many of your friends have rambled incoherently after a few too many drinks, and then show me where the prohibition movement is.

    December 13, 2010 at 16:19 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Adam Morgan

      A very preliminary test with a group of FOUR (4) people. Yeah, because 4 healthy people represent a good statistical cross-section of the world's, or even the US's population. The doctors even said it is probably that no adverse effects were seen because they were all very healthy volunteers. This was the first study done. Clearly much more is needed. They know next to nothing about this. It could turn out that extended use causes dementia and dependence. We simply do not know yet. Just because something appears to be safe does not mean it is. Eggs are safe, but excessive eating of them can lead to high cholesterol, heart issues and increased risk of food poisoning. There may be a safe level of consumption of salvia divinorum as well. Scientists aren't so much interested in banning things. They simply want to understand how they work and what is safe or not. It could turn out that it is completely safe to use.

      However, it does not necessarily follow that it is safe for every person to use. Or that every person who uses it will be safe. Just as people do stupid things when drinking, they'll do stupid things while smoking this product. People say that smoking pot makes them more intelligent. I have worked with several potheads over the years, and every single one of them gets about 100% dumber while high. They may think they are solving the worlds problems, or writing the best code the world has ever seen, but really they are staring at the ceiling humming. They're gone.

      If people could be trusted to be responsible... sure. I wouldn't have a problem. It is your choice after all. However, people are not responsible. Teenagers especially as they lack the experience to know how to be responsible. That is why something like this is worrying. Miley is a role model, whether she wants to be or not. That's the life she has chosen by becoming a celebrity. Lots of children look up to her and want to be like her. That is the consequence of the choices she has made with respect to her life. You don't get to choose the consequences, you must live with them. If she wants to be the celebrity, the star, then she must also accept the role model aspect of that. This is why people demand she hold herself to a higher standard. And you know what? Those people are right.

      December 14, 2010 at 12:21 | Report abuse |
    • Zach

      @Adam Morgan I agree with your posts reasoning completely, but I think there is more to consider.
      You mentioned Miley has made a decision to become a role model. Because she has made this decision, she ought to be responsible. Miley has an obligation to be a good role model and she ought to act responsibly.
      You also mentioned teenagers lack the experience necessary to know how to consistently act responsibly. I agree with this too. The problem is that Miley, as a teenager, lacks the experience necessary to know how to be a responsible role model. In this sense, it is impossible for Miley to project herself as a responsible role model, and to consequently be a good role model for teenagers.
      All we can expect from Miley is that which she is capable of; what one ought to do implies what one can do, or ought implies can.

      December 14, 2010 at 14:12 | Report abuse |
  8. T3chsupport

    "The participants said they felt like they had left reality and gone somewhere else after smoking the herb."

    This cannot be fully explained to someone who has not experienced it. It's not like when you do something else and your reality is altered- your reality is GONE, you don't even remember it. You are not you, and the room you are in is not the room you are in. But you don't know that, because all you've ever known is what you know now (now being when you're 'in' it), so you're ok with it.

    The scary part is when you start coming back to a reality that feels unnatural that you have no recollection of.

    Individual experiences vary greatly, of course.
    Never trip on this stuff alone. No matter how well in control you are on other substances, this is not those at all.

    But for the love of god, don't ban it, just be responsible!

    December 13, 2010 at 16:25 | Report abuse | Reply
    • G

      Wait, so you're saying that Salvia is safer taken WITH other drugs? How is that? Do the more drugs you take make the experience safer? Yeah, right.

      December 13, 2010 at 18:11 | Report abuse |
    • Hayley

      @G I am fairly certain that T3chsupport meant never use Salvia while physically alone. I don't think anyone would recommend using Salvia AND other drugs at the same time.

      December 13, 2010 at 19:00 | Report abuse |
    • Caseyjames

      No, don't listen to this guy ^, Salvia is both fun and safe. One time I smoke some while listening to the song 'Sugar Magnolia' and I heard all of the words BACKWARDS and the music sounded like it was from another planet. It was very fun

      December 13, 2010 at 22:59 | Report abuse |
  9. Bradley

    The 'one bad apple spoils the lot' approach to legislation sure is a strange choice for a 'democracy'

    December 13, 2010 at 16:37 | Report abuse | Reply
  10. kenny

    i may b 12 but i still think tht it really dumb to smoke anything a herb or paper or anything lik tht and for it to b illega tht dumb. but u no whos gonna lestin to a 12 year old

    December 13, 2010 at 17:52 | Report abuse | Reply
    • travesty

      Yeah, really. Especially one that can't type, spell, or has any idea what they're talking about. Drugs have always been around and always will be, making them illegal just gives power to the cartels. Legalize regulate and tax. People are going to do whatever they want to do regardless what's against the law.

      December 13, 2010 at 19:59 | Report abuse |
    • Clay

      Travesty, prohibition of these drugs doesnt just give the cartels power, it is giving too much power to the federal government, big alcohol, big tobacco, and big pharma. you wonder why weed hasnt been legalized? it has nothing to do with its toxicity, but more to do with how much money big alcohol and big tobacco gives to government to keep it illegal, not to mention protecting their own lucrative drug business known as the FDA. Its sad that these issues really have nothing to do with the welfare of the nation, but have everything to do with MONEY and POWER

      December 14, 2010 at 10:45 | Report abuse |
  11. agree

    Why can't we just legalize the psychadelic drugs have people sign papers and be allowed to experiment with them at in a controlled setting with a therapist.

    they could even test you before you left to be sure you could drive safely and everything else. We should be allowed to explore our world. This government makes me want to puke with it's banning of what I consider to be extremely vital and important spiritual & transformational experiences that cannot be described with words.

    December 13, 2010 at 18:07 | Report abuse | Reply
  12. agree

    It is because these beautiful experience surpass our ability to convey them with words that they have been made illegal. This is even more real than most spiritual experiences found within religions and needs to be our right and freedom as long as we do not endanger anyone.

    And there are definitely ways to not endanger anyone. We just have to think of them and explore our universe together.

    December 13, 2010 at 18:09 | Report abuse | Reply
    • evensteven

      I agree with you and will add that the challenge we have in our country is that we have no tradition for the sacred use of psycho-active substances. Our tradition in the US is to mix drugs with socializing and the effects of these substances in a party atmosphere versus the use for one's personal journey going inward is tremendous. It's not the substances that are the problem, it is the way they are being used. Many people can't get feel any sense of intimacy with another person without the use of substance and that is problematic. Substances that can provide a legitimate spiritual experience can also create a lot of dysfunction when used improperly.

      December 13, 2010 at 18:28 | Report abuse |
  13. evensteven

    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."—Albert Einstein

    Our posture toward drug use in this country is insane. When are we going to realize as a country that the government will never stop people from doing what they want with their bodies? Who owns your body? Do you want the government telling you what to do with your body?

    December 13, 2010 at 18:11 | Report abuse | Reply
  14. just think

    If you make it ok to use and someone gets hurt than what. How about just not report on the subject than no one would care anyway. I say hand out all the meth coke crack pot or any other drug and when all the dumb people die we eill all be better off.

    December 13, 2010 at 18:34 | Report abuse | Reply
    • agree

      Those drugs are very different than ones that do not kill people yet give them life changing spiritual experiences. I wouldn't care if mcdonalds and ice cream are illegal. They do not have any spiritual purpose and for the most part are expressions of human addiction instead of a brave journeys into other realities that have potential to entirely shift your view of life in a direct and profound manner. We can be blind to these possibilities without the experiences. It simply is beyond what can be put into words and simply explained. It cannot speak so it is buried with dangerous chemicals in the minds of the masses, dangerous chemicals like coke, crack, meth, pain killers, weird food preservers....

      December 13, 2010 at 18:52 | Report abuse |
    • agree

      NOTE: I would care if ice cream were illegal to be honest. But it helped me express myself to say it that way.

      December 13, 2010 at 18:54 | Report abuse |
    • rak

      Agree ... You are Such an Idiot! Spirituality has nothing to do with drugs. Buddhism does not tolerate any type of drug use. And Stop intermixing!

      December 13, 2010 at 21:30 | Report abuse |
    • kiwilogic

      spirituality and drugs have gone hand in hand for thousands of years buddisim is merely one religion out of the millions or religions in fact hallucinogens would explain al ot about so called visions and miracles that are in various religions i mean someone walking on water wouldn't suprise me when i'm on mushrooms i've seen far more incredible things than that difference is i know i'm tripping

      December 13, 2010 at 22:36 | Report abuse |
  15. Marshall

    SET says,"They want to figure out if the side-effects it creates will leave a person incapacitated, dangerous to themselves or others, or incapable of operating vehicles safely. IE: Will they end up slamming into someone on the road "Hey SET,Isn't that what alcohol does?

    December 13, 2010 at 19:15 | Report abuse | Reply
  16. jeff

    we let just about anybody have access to guns in this country,a 20 min. trip is alot less deadly.

    December 13, 2010 at 19:32 | Report abuse | Reply
  17. Kevin B

    Im only10 and ive read all of ur comments and i think salvia should be banned. I understand that whateveer the goverment says people really wnt listen but still those people who dnt listen should sit down and think about what theyre doing and think of the kids they influence. IF u know someone who does meth cocaine or anything else sit down and talk 2 them about it. REALLY lay down and relax and think about what im sayin. But nobodys goin 2 listen 2 me cause im ten. Dnt ask how i know so much. Ill tell u this...... Im really smart!

    December 13, 2010 at 19:59 | Report abuse | Reply
  18. bob

    Party drugs should all be illegal. It has nothing to do with who lets me put what in my body. Drugs never lead to any GOOD. They ruin lives, families, and jobs. You want a Dr to work on you after smoking this crap. Go get a life. You want to get spiritual go for a hike in nature and breath some fresh air. Not chemicals. Terrible role models!

    December 13, 2010 at 20:02 | Report abuse | Reply
    • kiwilogic

      yea some drugs cause problems with some users but the majority are less of a problem than probibly you (Atleast they're not narrow minded) and as for spirituality who says you have to believe in god to find spirituality most of the people agaisnt drugs i've found from experience just dont understand them and what they do and the difference between things like pot and heroin

      December 13, 2010 at 22:42 | Report abuse |
    • Clay

      according to this logic, alcohol should be illegal, being a party drug and all.

      December 14, 2010 at 10:51 | Report abuse |
  19. raven667

    Our drug policy is garbage and our politicians/agencies only use scientific data that they like to illustrate their arguments. The problem is there is a lot of money to be made by keeping drug policy the way it is. We have police officers, dea agents, and private prisons who make money keeping drugs illegal. I understand that we want to keep our kids safe but the only way we are going to be able to do that is if we educate them with real unbiased science to back up what we are teaching. When we just say "drugs are bad and will kill you" it makes you a liar when they see someone else partaking and not being harmed. Another note: the people we are arresting and putting in jail for nonviolent crimes "are our kids!" Jailing them doesn't help...Treating for addiction does!

    December 13, 2010 at 20:10 | Report abuse | Reply
  20. Masa D. Luffy

    Breaking news: Teenager abuses plant for recreation. More at 11.

    December 13, 2010 at 20:13 | Report abuse | Reply
  21. bug_u

    I believe that salvia shouldnt even be called a drug. i took quite a few hits in my life and guess what? it really doesnt do very much more than marijuana does for a person. for hells sake, i got so bored with it, i went to another real drug to actually alter my reality for a lot longer than 20 freakin minutes... wow this is ridiculous... definitely should be banned. like others said, legalize all drugs and we will realize who actually has enough strength to pass it all up. i mean think about it, cigarettes

    December 13, 2010 at 20:23 | Report abuse | Reply
  22. bug_u

    Cigarettes are legal but less people actually want them.... duh! think about it

    December 13, 2010 at 20:25 | Report abuse | Reply
  23. bob

    I was referring to another comment about drugs being used to be more spirtual. I'm sure God's original plan wasn't us humans running around high and delirious! This whole world is ruined by drugs. There is so much to experience in this world that is wonderful without drugs. people need to get clear headed and open their eyes and see what they are missing.

    December 13, 2010 at 20:29 | Report abuse | Reply
    • agree

      Bob you are ignorant of any experiences offered by example: mushrooms. Your comments display that would not be prepared for them. You do not realize what you speak of. You should not talk about things you do not understand or have experience with. Why can't intelligent people simply have a little freedom? The mass majority of people who take mushrooms listed the experience as a top 5 in their entire life. These experiences are extremely important for intelligent humans and your fears will not hold back the human race no matter how hard you try, they only compel us to look deeper and go further inward.

      December 13, 2010 at 21:21 | Report abuse |
  24. Rea

    MiLey cyrus sucks big TIME !!! she is so stupid messed up her Life. Happy bday TayLor Swift !!!

    December 13, 2010 at 21:10 | Report abuse | Reply
    • doug

      ok so really all the 10 and 12 year olds need to stop they dont know what the hell they are saying they have never been exposed to it and honestly i think each person in congress should smoke a little pot once in their lives and just see that its not that bad and that its the only drug that DOES NOT CAUSE MALNUTRITION so suck on that crack and meth and all that other crap make everything that is man made narcotics illegal we have viccodin oxycotin and all that is PERSCRIBED for pain so is pot and people say it helped so why doesnt the government LISTEN to the people for once and just leagalzie it

      December 14, 2010 at 10:40 | Report abuse |
  25. agree

    She is just a normal human being who is doing what humans have for centuries. We explore our mind and the beautiful consciousness that we are. What is so wrong with that exploration? The desire to explore reality is just as important if not more so than our desire to explore outer space! The discoveries in those realms can actually change people spiritually for the better! Legalize inner space, at least with a therapist in a controlled setting!! We risk our lives to go to space, but if we want to look at reality we go to jail!! what an insane world.

    December 13, 2010 at 21:24 | Report abuse | Reply
  26. agree

    "this whole world is ruined by drugs" thats odd considering all the drugs people interact with! Just the ones that teach us too much or show us too much... those ones ruin the world right? HAHAHA. You make me sick you are like a Nazi of conscousness that doesnt even realize it.

    December 13, 2010 at 21:26 | Report abuse | Reply
  27. rak

    Trash! Another One Acting Stupid and Really Smart for her career as being a role model for 6 to 17year olds. Why should they stop with Harmless drugs? Why not do Heroin? Heroin is so much more of a high.

    December 13, 2010 at 21:28 | Report abuse | Reply
    • agree

      Rak your ignorance treads on the spiritual experiences of millions of people throughout history. You shut the doors on anything that shows people another reality. Some drugs are physically very safe some are not like heroin, crack, coke, meth ETC. Why do you group them all together as if they are all EVIL and BAD. That is so stupid.

      December 13, 2010 at 21:46 | Report abuse |
  28. Peg Pollard

    I AM APPALLED. I can't believe anYthing I see on HLN could have the power to appal me, not after years of Nancy Grace. But I am watching the panel and Joy joke around about the use of the for-now-legal "salvia". Joe Levy has NOT tried this drug, and neither have the others, who seem to infer they have. I know, because I HAVE and it is NOTHING like marijuana. As a matter of fact, it's by FAR, the WORST trip I've ever had, and I've had me a few, back in the dizzae as they say. The BF's kid begged to do it a couple years ago while visiting, and being the spoilt brat he is, daddy went to the head shop and bought it. I tried it, because even tho I'm OLD, I figured, "The stuff's LEGAL. How bad can it BE?" Well, folks, meth was once legal, as was LSD and every drug around, at some point. I had ONE HIT of salvia, the "medium" of 3 strengths it is sold in. I truly thought I was dying. WORSE YET, if felt like Syd Barret had invaded my body, and indeed I WOULDN'T die, I'd be stuck for life crawling around in slimey tubes with NO AIR. The clip I saw just now of Sirus, was the first few seconds, which are groovy. Its the next 2 or 3 minutes that are HORRIFIC, and then the next 48 hours when you think you're gonna go crazy. As a happy-ass drug user, I would NOT RECOMMEND this drug to ANYONE for ANY purpose. NOT even as a "try it once". ITS NOT WORTH IT, trust me!

    December 13, 2010 at 21:45 | Report abuse | Reply
    • agree

      I have tried salvia as well, It is really not very fun and it is not addictive or physiologiclaly dangerous. That is not why it will never be a problem the mass majority would not enjoy it, and will try it once or twice. But it sure is interesting this relationship that plants have this power.

      Maybe poop should be illegal to stop people from eating it.... but hey there are even a few who are into that I bet.

      December 13, 2010 at 21:51 | Report abuse |
  29. Shailene

    You guys are so immature what are you nine? I'm more mature then having stupid little arguments within comments like you guys and please I'm 14!!

    December 13, 2010 at 21:48 | Report abuse | Reply
    • agree

      It touches on a very deep level when your rights to have a safe experience, as long as you do not hurt anyone, are stolen and enforced by a government agency. It feels like an uneducated parent shackling you down and telling you that you can't decide on anything for yourself. It offends me deeply and that is why I argue about my rights to engage with the world as long as I do it in a safe and supervised way.

      December 13, 2010 at 21:53 | Report abuse |
  30. Who Cares

    The government just wants something else to control. Miley is grown. Leave her alone.

    December 13, 2010 at 21:52 | Report abuse | Reply
  31. bryan grocholski

    lmfao k first of all if she is smokin salvia ill eat my hat has anyone here ever actually done salvia cause i have and let me tell u after taking a hit of salvia u wouldnt be laughing let alone talkin salvia knocks u to the ground for 5 mins and u r in no shape to talk the way she does and second of all it clearly weed she is smoking she gets all giggly salvia doesnt do that to u

    December 13, 2010 at 22:16 | Report abuse | Reply
  32. Lynds

    @agree- clearly you've done one too many drugs, legal or otherwise! There is REALITY (which is what you ACTUALLY experience in the here and now) and there is PERCEPTION (which is this 2nd "reality" you speak so fondly of)- it's either ACTUALLY happening or you're dreaming it's happening!!

    When you experience a "trip" of ANY kind, it is a type of PERCEPTION, seeing as NO ONE BUT YOU can visit the little world you've created in your messed up and confused little head!! Stop going on and on about your screwed up sense of REALITY and talking incessantly about spiritual experiences...they're only making you look like the cracked out nutcase we all know you truly are, instead of the "intelligent" person you claim to be 🙂

    December 13, 2010 at 22:22 | Report abuse | Reply
    • agree

      Sorry to advocate physically safe journeys into the imagination. I am sure that there is serious HARM involved and people deserve to be arrested and brain washed about it.

      December 13, 2010 at 23:20 | Report abuse |
    • agree

      There is also nothing to learn from perceiving what you call reality in a variety of ways as long as nobody is getting hurt. Right just nothing to learn at all from our perception. yeah right.. think more deeply please..

      December 13, 2010 at 23:23 | Report abuse |
    • conch

      If you only use a small amount, you have wonderful experiences that you could never have without having taken Salvia. Our normal condition is a bunch of elements...dirt and water. For this short period, our bodies can experience many wonderful things. This is merely one of the experiences which the human body is capable of.

      December 15, 2010 at 05:02 | Report abuse |
  33. lil mama

    Thats the age it t starts. curiosity some times changes thier mind. But whats the percentage on that?

    December 13, 2010 at 23:09 | Report abuse | Reply
  34. Zardoz

    The best way to popularize a drug is to outlaw it! Leave it to the government to fix something that isn't broken.

    December 13, 2010 at 23:12 | Report abuse | Reply
  35. adam mac

    Shes 18, she doesnt have to live to any type of standard she is her own person and is aloud to live her life how she wants, who are we to say what she can and cannot do. There are many people who do drugs or used to that are seen as iconic figures. why should we treat her like a possesion and limit her freedoms just because she is on disney. There is no reason for her to apologize just because one of her friends posted a video. If she was a normal actor everyone would make a joke or two and move on. She is her own person ablle to smoke what she wants, especially if its legal

    December 13, 2010 at 23:20 | Report abuse | Reply
  36. awake

    She is clearly smokin bud or she would not be laughin she would be on the floor no matter wat i still get high on almost all drugs an i dont see no harm now i drink an i see harm so you decide this is all a load of bull

    December 13, 2010 at 23:27 | Report abuse | Reply
  37. agree

    This culture has devilized safe and interesting experiences out of fear and mis informatoin.

    December 13, 2010 at 23:30 | Report abuse | Reply
  38. Aleson

    Wow.... Getting worked up over this?? That's really stupid. She wants to do it, let her do it. All those people need to pull the stick out of there asses, put on there big girl panties and get over it.

    December 13, 2010 at 23:38 | Report abuse | Reply
  39. Jill

    Way To go miley. Great role model.

    December 13, 2010 at 23:59 | Report abuse | Reply
  40. Bart Barton

    not that many people can pull it off 100% of the time, but SOBER is the only way to experience the real highs of life...

    December 14, 2010 at 00:01 | Report abuse | Reply
  41. Breanne Sanchez

    Alright this is what i have to say, Miley is now 18 which makes her an adult which also means she can do what she wants. role model? she's not hannah montana anymore!! little girls only loved her for hannah! now she's just miley let her grow up and experience life i still love miley i will always love miley she's freaking amazing my mom loves miley!! leave her alone let her grow up! lets atleast be happy she didnt end up 16 and pregnant! miley i'll always support you! do your own thing<3

    December 14, 2010 at 00:38 | Report abuse | Reply
  42. MrsMalice

    it's funny how big of a controversy this topic has risen. miley is an adult fully capable of making decisions. oh and as far as it being weed because shes laughing i doubt it, weed is the only "drug" ive ever done and even with my first high and hydro ive never hallucinated or laughed beyond control. it has to be taken into consideration whether she smoked the herb or a level of extract because ive seen both trips and only the extract puts you on the floor. P.S. illegalization NEVER works...

    December 14, 2010 at 00:52 | Report abuse | Reply
  43. johnny

    why dont you people worry about your own kids.and my be ur kids can look at you as a role model

    December 14, 2010 at 01:57 | Report abuse | Reply
  44. Truth

    Tried it. Didn't care for it.

    December 14, 2010 at 02:11 | Report abuse | Reply
  45. brenda marcette

    Okay so i just saw the whole miley cyrus scandal and people need to back of and let miley do as she pleases the press go crazy for a partially nude photo and all of a sudden shes a bad role model BS ... let her be her and do what she wants ... she has a say in what she wants or doesnt want ... dont sit up there and say it "peer presure" noby held the bong and forCed her at gun point it was here decision and it was completely legal so leave her alone and worry bout stuff more important...

    December 14, 2010 at 02:21 | Report abuse | Reply
  46. PL Hartman

    After spending the past several years watching Miley with my (now) 6 yr old grandaughter, I am so SAD to have to explain to her that her idol has made a VERY POOR choice to engage in such inappropriate behavior. This little 6 yr old is striving to make better grades and choices than her 13 yr old brother...telling him she cannot trust HIM because he is not making decent choices...and his offense is not turning in his HOMEWORK...how disappointed will this little girl be to find out her idol has done something as INAPPROPRIATE as smoking...WHATEVER it is in that bong...legal or not!!! I just pray my granddaughter hasn't seen the video even tho I'm sure her friends are talking about it! Shame on you, Miley, you've let down MANY young girls that wanted to be just like YOU...along with slapping the adults in the face who spent ALLOT of HARD EARNED money on your merchandise!!! Is there NO childhood to be had for your fan s?!

    December 14, 2010 at 02:25 | Report abuse | Reply
    • JR

      Why are you demeaning her she has done nothing wrong. She is now 18 years old and she shouldnt have to second guess everything she does because of what might be said about her for doing something that is legal. Im sure you are doing a good job at raising your granddaughter but to classify this as inappropriate you would have to label such things as drinking a beer around her as inappropriate which im sure someone in the family she looks up to way more then miley has done at some point.

      December 14, 2010 at 03:05 | Report abuse |
    • Kal

      I think the problem in this entire situation is summed up by this post. As parents, it shouldn't be the responsibility of a pop sensation to be the lasting role model in a Childs life. that along with allowing a six year old to sit in front of a television seems you might be allowing your children to developed a false sense of reality on what human beings actually are and that's flawed. By you holding this pop star on such a high pedistol you're in turn in the wrong. Sit your grandchild down and explain to her the problems associated with drug use and be the responsible family member. Do leave it up to Miley. Looks like you put your money in the wrong stocks and now you're disappointed the market crashed.

      December 14, 2010 at 07:15 | Report abuse |
    • Alexis

      She did all of it in private, shouldnt you be blaming CNN and TMZ and E news instead? They're the people making money off of all of this. And they're the ones ruining the Hannah/Miley perception for all of the young girls.

      December 14, 2010 at 11:06 | Report abuse |
  47. David Williams

    I am a 62 guy, not one of her fans, Miley did nothing illegal. So TMZ and CNN, shut the * up. I have come to the point though that CNN has very little to offer of value, and SHOWBIZ and TMZ none.

    December 14, 2010 at 02:52 | Report abuse | Reply
  48. JR

    If the media didnt publicize something that is legal we wouldnt be having this conversation about Miley or salvia. This story only influences more people to try salvia whether its legal or not. Just like the article says internet sales have spiked since this story was published. Im sure for many this is the first time they have heard about this legal hallucinogin. I dont understand, if miley was smoking a cigarette the media would not have published that, so why do it with something just as legal?.......congratulations cnn.....tmz.....other media you have just introduced a new "drug" into many peoples lives

    December 14, 2010 at 03:17 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Alexis

      AGREEEEED! Thank you! My sentiments exactly!

      December 14, 2010 at 11:03 | Report abuse |
  49. Alyce

    Haha i can't believe this is considered NEWS! It's taken people long enough to realize she is definitly NOT the innocent girl they thought she was.

    December 14, 2010 at 03:25 | Report abuse | Reply
  50. jimbo

    Never heard of the stuff until now. I want some.

    December 14, 2010 at 05:00 | Report abuse | Reply
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