U.S. Edition
The first woman to have been born through in-vitro fertilization in the United States became a mother herself yesterday.
Elizabeth Comeau, born Elizabeth Jordan Carr, is 28 years old and works for the Boston Globe. She looks back on her experience as one of America's most famous babies ever in this piece on Boston.com today.
"I had a normal conception and pregnancy despite my abnormal childhood. And early yesterday, my husband and I had a baby boy 'the normal way,' proving (I hope) that I’m just like everyone else," she writes.
Friends at school knew that she was an in-vitro baby (she hates the term "test tube baby" because the process involves a petri dish, not a tube). The other kids did not tease her, but some would want to sit next to her at a homecoming game since a camera was following her around.
She has been in the spotlight nearly all her life, since her birth on December 28, 1981. The photo above shows her in 2002, attending a World Infertility Month dinner at the United Nations in New York.
After marrying and taking on a new last name, she had more privacy, but wanted to come out with her story now because "If my story helps couples or families learn about in-vitro fertilization, then the loss of privacy is worthwhile," she writes.
The doctors who helped bring her into the world, Dr. Howard Jones and his wife Georgeanna, were more like grandparents to her, she says. Dr. Georgeanna Seeger Jones died in 2005.
"It really hit me that I would never be able to say thank you to her, ever," she says in the video with her article. "How do you thank somebody for bringing you into the world? You really can't."
She also notes that the pope still disapproves of IVF and so, in a sense, disapproves of her existence.
"If I ever get a chance to meet him and talk with him, I'd try to set him straight, I think," she says.
The Pope would not disapprove of this woman's existence, but he would disapprove of the way in which she was conceived.
A man who is blind and has absolutely no real spriritual quality will obviously have issues with life as he doesn't understand anyting about life. When was church really sacred? Jesus himself would have been an outcast as his humility and goodness would be too difficult to understand for the power seeking, diplomatic pope. This is the same pope who had no repentance for all the abuse at church..who says its really a spriritual place..how can you grow when everything is a sin.
It's not the Pope's business what she does.
We've multiplied and replenished the Earth. That's no longer a current assignment.
I would have to say that I don't agree with IVF but I do support the existance of this women and her new family. The reason I am against IVF is that if nature has said that a couple can't reproduce it likely has a good reason for it, either the health of the couple or defects in the genes. Forcing those gene's to make a person in unnatural conditions to me represents an extreme risk to the health of the child. Add to that, the fact that there are so many children that need to be adopted and it seems to call into question the wisdom of forcing a high risk conception.
Again, I DO NOT think this woman should never have been born. She is clearly a special person. But I do think it is best we understand nature better before we override her decisions.
Funny, I don't remember anyone asking for your no-doubt expert opinion on the medical dangers of IVF. How is it possible that you can even imagine that anyone cares?
IVF is not a processes that tampers with a person's genes. It still requires a sperm and an egg and just allows them to combine outside of the body and allows medical practitioners to make sure this occurs. I am also a test tube baby and I have been completely healthy my entire life. Additionally to the people who say that IVF babies are less intelligent or less anything you may want to shove your foot up your ass because that is a HUGE overgeneralization... There may be a lot less test tube babies born in the 80s like myself but you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway. Congratulate this woman on not being forced to use IVF because she was lucky enough to conceive on her own and stop bitching about everything else!
@Mark C, the same way you image that people care about what an ingorant facist such as yourself thinks. This is a comment section moron, it invites opinion, if freedom of expression was not enough for you. I've seen your other comments here and it seems clear that your just some angry pycho. Must suck to be worthless.
@Marissa, I understand the process and I wasn't suggesting the process tampered with the genes. I also did not say that IVF babies were less intelligent or less anything else. All I suggested was that there is a increased risked of health problems. That does not imply every child will be unhealthy. Putting words in my mouth is not much better than what you are accusing me of. I had nothing but kind words for the woman and made it clear that none of my comments were directed at her. Your comments were directed, mean spirited and false. Of the two of us I suggest it is you that has a problem.
Who are you, or ANYONE to make a statement that a couple who are unable to conceive naturally should adopt instead of using IVF? Yes, there are thousands of CHILDREN (not just babies) who need parents. Why shouldn't fertile couples adopt them also? Why should infertile couples have to be the ones to give up their dream of having their own child?
@nhpm900, I have no "say", I have an opinion which I am entitled to. If we had a vote on it I would have the right to vote 'no'. Who am I? I am a citizen of a democratic country. Who are you?
"Why should infertile couples have to be the ones to give up their dream of having their own child?" Why should paralysed people have to give up their dream to be in the Olympics? Life and nature aren't fair. It also isn't fair to create a child that has a greater risk of health problems in order to satisfy their parents' desires. Nature and random events we can't control, but we can control our behaviour. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3420265.stm
mind-blogging stupidity. so all the people that conceive children normally, only to give birth to children with genetic disease, are what? what do you call a couple who give birth to a child with a genetic disease? how do you know that people requiring IVF are destined to have a genetic disease? what the hell is wrong with people on this board?
@magnu, "what do you call a couple who give birth to a child with a genetic disease?" unfortunate.
"how do you know that people requiring IVF are destined to have a genetic disease?" please indicate where I said that people requiring IVF are destined to have a genetic disease. We don't know for sure that an IVF baby will carry the trait that made it impossible for their parents to have a natural conception but if a couple is unable to conceive or have a full term pregnancy it is because there is either something wrong with the parents or something wrong with the baby. Given those unknowns the chances of there being health problems with a baby are greater. You seem to be unable to understand risk and probabilities. Look it up.
"what the hell is wrong with people on this board?" seems as though some of them jump to irrational conclusions. Probably as a result of ignorance.
There are literally millions of reasons and scenarios as to why some people can't conceive. Not all of them are genetic malformations, not many of them will pass on to the child, and most of the time, the real reason is never definitively determined. One advantage to IVF is the availability of PGD (genetic testing). If one or both of the prospective parents have a genetic issue, PGD can separate out embryos carrying the trait and those that are not. It's not often used, but in certain cases could be useful in ensuring a healthy child.
I'm sure if you were every able to meet the Pope, he'd be pleased to meet this young lady. The Catholic Church values and acknowledges all human life from the very moment of conception. The Catholic Chruch is against the techniquest NOT the person, by any means. A Person is a Person, no matter how one is created! The Catholic Church is against techniques such as invitro because " the act which brings the child into existence is no longer an act by which two persons give themselves to one another, but one that "entrusts the life and identity of the embryo into the power of doctors and biologists and establishes the domination of technology over the origin and destiny of the human person." (CCC 2377)
Well said. It is amazing how the anti-catholic sentiments start because of the Church's beliefs and teachings and somehow that gets twisted into Catholics hating other human beings. The enemy is always lurking and using us to attack one another.
Guess what? Nobody cares. The pope should worry more about what his little dress-wearing pervs are doing to their altar boys and less about IVF.
Her final comments in the story speak volumes. The Pope is so out of touch with reality. What the Pope (and SO many others) have forgotten is that God made doctors and scientists too. Shows me that God really wants us to figure out things like IVF.
Jason, you are the one out of touch my friend. The last comments of this story lead to a huge misunderstadning of the RCC and shows that bashing is needed to defend one's actions when they are contrary to another's beliefs. The RCC as a whole over time makes doctrine and dogam, not one man. Pope is more in touch with reality than the billions in this world who walk the planet just doing their own thing and not honoring the Lord. Also, your thinking is flawed. God created freewill and having science, doctors etc does not make these techniques acceptable.
Congratulations! Thank you for sharing your story.
I went to school with Elizabeth Carr at Simmons. What a b***h. She is seriously one of the nastiest, most self-important, self-consumed people I've ever met. It's unfortunate that she garners such attention, as she's really a little witch.
Have you ever wonder why????
Awwww...poor little baby, jealous of someone else getting all the attention. If you want to see a first-class BIOTCH, look in the mirror.
Give her a break...and yes....although everyone is entittled to an opinion, sadly most opinions come from people who are not affected/effected at all by this "miracle of modern science" put yourselves on her shoes... and yes...she is entittled to some privacy as well. congratulations to her and her family...
THE POPE IS A MORON. who cares what he thinks. some day society will look back on christianity as mythology, just as christianity looks at past religons now.
http://www.PutThePopeInJail.com
Unfortunately, you are the moron and unless you grab a clue, we will all look back on you at this posting as someone who will go down in eternity as an intolerant hater that denies true love. I hope you figure it out – your soul literally depends on it.
best of luck
i love it! put the Pope in jail along with his alter boy touchin' pervs.
If science gave her life [and not God] then most people have children because they have sex [has nothing to do with God]. I'm sorry, but getting pregnant is the result of successful copulation. If
I'm currently going through the IVF process and it has been an emotional one to say the least.
If she had the baby on the 5th then I'm very proud to have had my embryo implanting on her happy day. I'll take it as a good sign.
Best of luck, Trish. I've been where you are. Many times!
If science, but not God, gave her life, then women who get pregnant get pregnant because they have sex. Has nothing to do with God. Why would a God allow pregnancies that give us children who are abused, neglected, murdered by their parents or aborted by their parents to be? 'God' may have created the earth, but when man and woman left the Garden of Eden in the state of sin, they alone were responsible for their actions. Quit blaming everyone on God. You have unprotected sex, you most likely will get pregnant. That's not science. It's a biological fact.
Congratulations to this lovely young lady and her husband. I'm very happy for them and wish them the best.
@ TOM. you are the moron. you belive blindly in something that is controled by an elite few based on what? a book that has been manipulated by man for centuries. besides it is christianity that teaches hate and bigotry. did jesus not say love thy neighbor? was it not jesus who said he who is without sin cast the first stone? the pope my friend is definatly not without sin and should have absolutly no say in the matter.
Actually, the pope isn't against in-vitro per se. The issue is all the extra fertilized eggs that get destroyed in the process. Just think, this woman could have several other brothers and sisters, but they were killed in the process that created her.
harvest embryonic stem cells from the unused embryos. why discard them when you can harvest stem cells.
Michael, you too have brothers and sisters who were "killed" in the process of creating you, as do I and everyone else. It's part of existing. Aside from the eggs and sperm that never meet and "die", miscarriages also result in missed opportunities for life every day. How many people do you think are the result of mom and dad having to try again? What if it had worked the first time? Would that brother or sister have "killed" you? The thought that every single potential life is sacred doesn't make sense. If every potential life actually resulted in a human being, the world would not be able to accommodate the mind boggling number of people that would be here. Is life sacred? Perhaps. I know I feel pretty blessed to be here. But I also know that my presence here HAS to be because someone else's life wasn't allowed. My parents didn't want anymore children so they stopped trying, and all those other potential lives were lost. THey didn't "play God". They just had kids. IVF allows a better chance for conception. That's it.
It's really a shame that before I opened this, I knew she'd show the tell tale signs of 'taste-bud' entitlement. This nation really has to get its food source/portions under control, stop drinking liquid sugar and eating the solid compliment. This generation will be the MOST taxing on the health care system FAR before their years should yield such...worse then any epidemic we've faced....just because they sell, doesn't mean you should/or have.....to buy it, control yourselves..
What's really a shame is that you are a moron.
The Pope as the head of a systemic ring of pedophiles and abusers of women should not even be considered in a modern world. Hopefully people can come to treat him with distain and politicians everyone can grow the balls to put him on the no fly list.
congratulations mom! it's hart to believe that such an effective means of fertilization was developed only 28 years ago. may many more experience the joy of pregnancy and parenthood by natural and in-vitro methods
did her kid come out in a beeker?
First of all the Catholic church does support infertility treatment for infertile couples. My husband and I went through 2 years of infertility treatment to conceive our daughter – there is actually an entire institute devoted to it – the Pope John Paul II Institute – their research is amazing, and they were instrumental in us conceiving our daughter. Check it out! Also the Catholic church by no means dismisses the existence of IVF babies – the position the church takes is with the disposing of the embryos that are never used, that are either disposed of as trash or more commonly used for medical experiments.
Also the church has a very staunch and correct stance on birth control – I believe another poster already commented on the fact that the church in the 60's stated that if birth control were readily available we would see an increase in STD's, abortions, and single parent homes – all of this has come to fruition. Additionally if couples take the time to learn the natural family planning method it brings the couple closer together and is just as effective as any chemical method of birth control available.
harvest stem cells from the discard embryos. is there a passage in the bible that states you cannot harvest embryonic stem cells from unused embryos?
I would say God has truly blessed this young woman. And, in case no one has noticed, the Catholic Church and The Pope are having some serious problems with their sexual predator priests and bishops. HMMMM, is there a lesson here ?
My husband and I have been married over 2 yrs and no luck yet. We're going to be starting IVF in the next few months, while we're Catholic, our parents are against it. They tell us to wait more and we're going to naturally get pregnant.
I say thumbs up for all the parents who had their children through IVF! We want our babies badly :)
If she hates being called a test tube baby, then why did the writer name the article "First U.S. test tube baby is born???"
god may or may not exist but religions (the vatican folks & its followers included) are just one big pile of dung!
justifying eating it however you want, the putrid stench lingers.
Elizabeth, welcome! You are one of us. There is no need to educate sheep!
JFK was dung right? Im dung right? My neighbor is dung right? Your dung for making everyone else sound like animal waste.
Why would you headline the article "First test tube baby is a mom" if she specifically speaks against that term in the body of the article AND points out that it's inaccurate?
What is wrong with you people?
No one should judge infertile women unless they've walked in their shoes. It is a terribly painful and difficult road to travel. I too, wondered why infertile couples didn't just adopt until I myself was in the situation. With all the kids in the world, I wondered why anyone would want to make another one, at such an incredible cost. But the desire to have a biological child is innate in most women...and powerful. It's an incredibly personal decision.
All life is sacred. The Pope disapproves of IFV. Not you.
All well and good.... so far. Apparently IVF children have a greater chance of getting cancer in later life, let's see what her future holds for her. And we shouldn't muck around with life, as in artificial conception, because we don't know the consequences. And, boy, is she fat. Now she's had a baby of her own, let's see what his health is like. This is nothing to fool around with, I think the IVF chickens will eventually come home to roost.
OK, its official. you are the biggest moron on the board. How do you know that IVF children have a greater chance to develop cancer? where is your data considering that no IVF baby is older than 28 (in america; i do not know how old the first UK IVF baby)? I have never seen such self-serving circular reasoning before. Do you know what circular reasoning is? its is when you create a false fact (a lie) to make yourself feel better.
110th: We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. There is no "compassionate" cessation. Babies are either mutilated or their skin is burned off with saline. It is gruesome butchery and nothing more.
you can burn your skin with saline? what planet are you from?
We can't but a fetus can burn from it. Its like throwing salt on a slug. Saline is used to kill fetus.
While the statement "skin burned' off' by saline is absurd, the use of saline in certain abortion procedures does cause the fetus to convulse briefly as the massive electrolytic shift causes the muscles to contract and the heart fibrillate. One really cannot know what the fetus experiences although as someone who was survived a lethal arrhythmia twice it was simply a "lights out" moment. There was no pain and the sight was more distressing to those watching then it was for me. I have ethical concerns myself about abortion when used simply as a method of birth control but also believe it is justified and humane under many circumstances. Needlessly emotional and inaccurate rhetoric gets us no where
Elizabeth, congratulations to you and your husband!
I like turtles!
I like turtles!!!
I like test tube turtles
this is the most bizzare and stupid line of comments I've ever seen.........but your comments made it all worth it!!! test tube turtles!!!..hahahahahahhahahahha!................(oh, and I have test tube twins of my own)
I have read several commits here about God...and He does not exist because this child was born...God works in many ways...When a doctor saves a person with a life threatening illness no one questions why did the doctor help...they accept that the doctor was Gods hands on earth...why not think this in the same context...many people are unable to have children..but with the help of a doctor they can... God gave these doctors the knowledge to help people...There are many ways to look at this...everyone has the right to see it their way but God Does exist and he proves it every day...If you dont have anything to believe it....how do you have hope?
Not a miracle, not a crime against nature... just science. One anecdotal note...it seems to me that many of these IVF babies grow up to be overweight. We already know that clones seem to age faster and be subject to congenital malformations. and health problems..Theoretically no actual genetic manipulation goes on so it should not occur in IVF....but? Just the same it would be interesting to study the long term health of these kids. Making an "apples and apples" comparison would be tricky since many of these kids are born prematurely and spend their first weeks and months of life on artificial life support which engenders its own set of long term even life long health effects. Still it would be interesting and hopefully illuminating to know
Where are you getting these so called "facts?" Sources, please. Once the embryo is implanted, it's a completely normal pregnancy from then on.
Elizabeth, congratulations to you and your husband.
She's a very pretty lady!
After reading all the stupid comments I say pass a law; anyone not conceived but after marriage and after 9 months only in missionary and indoors has a right to exist as per the Almighty....Amen !!!
You next job is go ask your parents and find the tallest building or bridge !!!
Snay, If you evolved from monkeys why are there still monkeys? If you chose to believe in the INNUMERABLE coincidences that must have occurred to give you life (or even to produce one beautiful petal on a flower) – and that something came from absolutely nothing – then just do so. That is your choice. For me, I am too logical to believe in coincidence, one scientific theory after another after another (remember the sound barrier and the flat earth). The speed of light and only being able to be in one place at a time theories are about to go too. I absolutely love science which to me obviously points to God. But, for some, Science is their God. If you are curious, read a "Case for Faith" – it is a little difficult to understand, but it was written by an aethesist that converted himself when he ernestly sought to prove God did not exist. And I hope that God blesses you! (with a capital G!!!) God bless the young lady in this article also.
Snay,
If you are sure there is no God, why are you offended by someone else's belief? If you chose to believe that you evolved from a monkey (even though there are still monkeys?) – and the innumerable coincidences that must have occurred to give you life (or even to produce one beautiful petal on a flower) – and that something came from absolutely nothing then do so. For me I am too logical to believe in coincidence, one scientific theory after another after another (remember the sound barrier and the flat earth). The speed of light and only being able to be in one place at a time theories are about to go too. I absolutely love science which to me obviously points to God. But, for some Science is their god. If you are curious, read a "Case for Faith" – it is a little difficult to understand, but it was written by an aethesist that converted himself when he ernestly sought to prove God did not exist. God bless you! (with a capital G!!!) Also, God bless the young lady in this article!
So, if we like the adult a child of rape turns out to be, does that mean the Pope, G-d, society, anyone must approve of rape? One can approve of someone's existence without approving of how one came to exist.
#1. IVF is less expensive than adoption #2, You can choose how many eggs are fertilized such that there are none left over – all embryos would be implanted #3. Adoption can take 1-3 years and wreak more emotional havoc than fertility treatments #4. Infant adoption is not 'saving' a child as there are more adoptive parents than infants available #5. Adopting a child (1+ yrs) can be extremely difficult as these children are likely emotionally scarred in some way. They need homes, but only with parents who are equipped and willing to deal with the emotional issues that will come with the child. It will do no good for someone to nonchalantly adopt these children without realizing the full consequence of their decision. This will do the child more harm than good. #6. If God does not want humans to interfere with creating / destroying life, then why do people who believe this go to the Dr. at all? If you had a heart attack, would you not seek help? Perhaps that is God telling you that your time is up. I do not know whether or not there is a God, but if there is, then He would have given humans the ability to do all that we can do – including abortion, fertility treatments, and saving someone from a heart attack.
Suzanne you make some good points here, however, IVF can be just as emotional as adoption. IVF can fail and not everyone can afford this expense anymore than adoption. Biological parents can cause emotional and physical pain just as adoptive parents might. Do you have children? If so, how many times have you wished you could of done something different when raising your children. Were your parents perfect? Adoptions may not be so expensive if more embryos were not aborted. Think about it. A child is aborted every 3 to 5 minutes a day. Sad. What makes this so sad? More than 90% of these children are aborted for other reasons than the health of the mother or the child!
How about "First U.S. test tube baby gives birth?" Can't we use grown up words? Children call their mothers mom. Why do adults have to write / speak that way?
pretty amazing stuff! Wish her and her family the best!!! Congrats on being a Mom!! =))))
Congrats to the new mom and who cares what the pope says..
Immaculate reception!!!
My daughter in law's eyes filled with tears when she saw the ultra sound picture of the baby they were going to adopt after 20 years of marriage without a child. I can only imagine how joyful she was to see a child coming into her marriage. What a priviledge to love and be loved by another human being. God bless everyone those who are and those who will be, with all our problems and peculiarities.
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