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February 25th, 2010
02:33 PM ET

When will we see a herpes cure?

As a feature of CNNhealth.com, our team of expert doctors will answer readers' questions. Here's a question for Dr. Gupta.

From Lloyd Bartley, Bowling Green, Kentucky

“How close are scientists to developing a cure for herpes, figuratively speaking will we be seeing a break through in 10, 20, or even 30 years?”

Answer:

Well, Lloyd, there is good news and bad news on the herpes front. The good news: Researchers have made serious strides and now better understand the mechanism behind herpes outbreaks. The bad news: There is very little funding for that research.

After receiving your question we reached out to a leading herpes expert, Bryan Cullen, the director at the Center for Virology at Duke University. Cullen is hopeful that a cure for herpes could come within 10 years, once funding hurdles are crossed.

Nearly one in five people over age 12 in the U.S. is affected by herpes. It is caused by a virus - either the herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) or the herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2). Both strains can cause genital herpes, but HSV-1 usually infects the mouth and produces cold sores.

Despite funding challenges, Cullen and his team are inching closer to a cure. They conducted a study recently that identified the pathway herpes takes as it infects. They now know how herpes embeds itself into the cells and how it eludes treatment. Now that they have honed in on the physiology of the disease - and its triggers - researchers believe they are steps closer to creating drugs that could cure herpes.

While we wait for a cure, there are drugs out there that can at least suppress herpes. Three antiviral drugs: acyclovir, valacyclovir, and famciclovir are commonly recommended to quell outbreaks. A physician might recommend taking these drugs when an outbreak occurs to quiet symptoms; or taking them continuously to reduce the likelihood of an outbreak.

And of course the best way to avoid spreading herpes is to abstain from sex, but if you are sexually active, engage in safe-sex practices such as using condoms.

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  1. martin

    Immunovex is in progress – yes. There are several others as Peregrine has an AIDS drug that appears to be promising on the cure for HSV – Isentress is the drug. AICURIS has a drug in phase 2 testing – needing volunteers – currently. Futher, there are several other researchers looking for cures/treatments for herpes.

    We all have got to get involved by writing the NIH, CDC, Obama, the researchers, and YES by DONATING. I am not suggesting that you have to "break the bank" in your donations but instead a buck or two a month, by a large percentage of the people will make a HUGE difference.

    Please help make herpes a thing of the past. It is now being linked to a whole host of diseases such as Alzheimer's...

    October 10, 2010 at 12:28 | Report abuse | Reply
  2. B

    With this disease being linked to Alzheimer's alone says much. Think about this! I work in the medical profession. A huge percentage of my patients have early Alzheimer's. I bet all of them test positive for either HSV-1 or HSV-2. Then some of the herpes virus's are linked to cancers and need for corneal transplants. Corneal transplants are the most common transplants. If the virus can be killed, then that's what needs to happen. Not to forget many people who have genital herpes develop depression and have extreme physical pain from the outbreaks. Herpes leads from one medical problem to the another. It needs to be cured. An I'm going to start donating money every month directly to Dr. Bloom or maybe the herpes coalition. Can someone answer this question? I would be more than willing to create educational pamplets regarding the current research on herpes and Dr. Bloom's progress toward killing the herpes virus. Free of charge, completely out of my pocket. I would gather all the information from the herpes coalition, briefly discussing to progress toward curing HSV-1 and funding is crucial if we want to see a cure for other herpes virus's as well. Then I would pass the pamplets out to several business's, including pharmacy's if allowed. Is this legal???????????? All the information would be directly linked to what is found on the herpes coalition website. I would not give out false information. At the same time, is this legal????? I can do this project at a small expense. Plus, I'm writing a letter to the CEO of our company asking how we can get involved in finding a cure for herpes. It will take a convincing letter, but I'm good at convincing people.

    October 10, 2010 at 13:33 | Report abuse | Reply
  3. B

    I will start sending mass letters out to Obama, NIH, CDC, and I'm also targeting celebrities. So many celebrities suffer from cold sores and I'm sure there are several who suffer from genital herpes as well. Their image is what makes them. If they were even thought to have herpes, their image is out the window. Plus, many of them support charities. Oprah is a powerful woman and she is greatly concerned with her race. Nothing wrong with knowing who you are and where you come from. But, statistics prove that more African Americans have a HSV-2 when compared to whites and non-hispanics. This virus is claiming home to many people and taking their quality of life away. We can make a change and help find funding to support these dedicated scientist.

    October 10, 2010 at 13:41 | Report abuse | Reply
  4. B

    A vaccine still doesn't cure those who are infected. Yes, it may reduce the severity of outbreaks or viral shedding and etc. BUT, it does not CURE herpes. The vaccine is just as important as finding an actual cure for herpes. Just thankful scientist and are taking this disease to the next level, CURING and PREVENTING. A cure is within reach and the research should be continued. I will give 100% support for finding the cure. The problem is, the general population does not know scientist are able to cure this disease. More advertising needs to be done. This will bring in many private donations. Spread the WORD for a cure not the DISEASE. People are emotionally dying inside and many medical problems are caused by herpes virus's. No need to suffer when a cure is possible. Curing one HSV-1 will lead to curing HSV-2 and etc.

    October 10, 2010 at 18:02 | Report abuse | Reply
  5. B

    I have cold sores as 90% of the population does. I don't want to leave the house if I get a cold sore. I use to get them like 1 to 2 times a month for a long time. People would say nasty jokes to me and make me feel ashamed. They hurt and itch so bad. I could easily spread the virus to others and who knows, myself...if you know what I mean. I could have HSV-2 and not even know. I've only had a few sex partners, but who knows who they've been with. If I was diagnosed with genital herpes, I swear I would rather be dead. I'm not lying. I'm sure many can relate to that. Since I was a teenager, I've always been interested in the field of gynecology. So, studying STI's has always been an interest of mine. Plus, I personally know several people who have genital herpes. Most of them are single and lonely. They have no desire to live and enjoy social events. Seriously, we need to cure this virus. It's done it's damage, now we need to take control. I'm not a doctor. I'm an educated individual who has much understanding of the medical field.

    October 10, 2010 at 18:16 | Report abuse | Reply
  6. J

    For anyone interested, we've begun the process to incorporate and start a nonprofit foundation called Herpes Cure Foundation. I won't post a link, since they don't allow advertising, but you can find us online. The site is very, very basic right now, so bear with us. In these early stages we are working with an attorney to incorporate as well as file for tax exemption status with the IRS so that we can allow donations. Additionally, we are working with a web developer to get the site fully functional within, hopefully, the next eight weeks.

    We want the site to be a place where both sufferers can come for information regarding current research, donate to help fund research targeted directly at HSV1 and 2, as well as a place for researchers to apply for grants and also connect with those who may be performing similar studies.

    What we need right now is help to get the word out. We need to find people who want to be actively involved in this cause. We CAN find a cure, we just have to organize and ensure those orgs/researchers dedicated to an effective treatment are funded well.

    Please contact us through the site if you are interested in assisting, either with the site, contacting people, marketing, or simply monetarily.

    October 11, 2010 at 05:51 | Report abuse | Reply
    • Emmanuel

      i would like to donate and would like to know about more about this website. i want to find a cure.

      April 20, 2015 at 15:22 | Report abuse |
  7. B

    J,
    How can I become actively involved? I'm designing a pamphlet at this time. Paying for it out of my own pocket. Have a plan to pass these pamplets out to several organizations. Hopefully, here in the next few weeks I will be able to make visits to multiple organizations and spread the word a cure is near with adequate funding. Convincing society that this disease is being linked to other health problems is the key. Plus, too many people suffer from the emotional pain of having the disease.

    October 11, 2010 at 20:04 | Report abuse | Reply
  8. David Flowers

    It's Tuesday and Bryan Cullen from Duke hasn't contacted me yet about using existing cures for herpes that cannot be patented. I was told that he would only be back in his office for a few days before leaving on an overseas trip so this does not mean Duke is not interested in curing you of herpes with a cure that can't be profitable to Duke. Although I seriously doubt Duke is interested in cures that are not profitable, I will continue to give Bryan the benefit of the doubt and wait to hear from him.

    Below is a copy of the email I sent to him and to Robin a disgruntled doctor who post here and testified I sent her the email along with several others who have contacted me from here. I'm still getting several contacts a day from here wanting to be cured of herpes. I'm not curing anyone of herpes anymore, I am only training others to cure themselves or to cure others. If Duke will not cure herpes I will see that people are FORCED to learn to cure themselves and others. Before you get all intimidated about being involved with cures, DON'T. Cures are a peace of cake. The only thing making health and healing complicated and difficult is science's search for patents and profits. A 12 year old can learn to cure disease like herpes in only a day. The only reason anyone is intimidated by the thought of cures is because of the endless pure science fiction propaganda that has crippled man and society.

    Cheers

    Brian, I am hoping to reach you before you head overseas.

    I know this communication may seem strange but I have been blogging on a CNN blog at (website removed for posting here to avoid moderation) and your name comes up quite often about your work in researching cures for herpes. Mostly they are asking people to donate to your research.

    I have been arguing that Duke would not be interested in cures that could not be patented. Your assistant Christine thought that was an incorrect assumption which I hope is the case. My scientific research has lead to a cure for herpes, however there is nothing to sell or patent. It would please me greatly if you could prove my assumption incorrect and take a little time to respectfully investigate my claims.

    My research has shown that a person with nail fungus (which you should already be aware is extremely common in people diagnosed with herpes) can also cure or at least eliminate herpes outbreaks with the prescription medicine Lamisil tablets used to cure nail fungus. I'm still waiting to hear of a case where Lamisil doesn't stop the OBs.

    I personally do not use Lamisil to cure people of herpes, I use the immune system with complete consistency. In a nutshell I use the same immune response that powers the immune response behind every immune response seen in your blind studies. I can take a sugar pill and make it completely consistent at curing herpes because as you know the sugar pill has no healing qualities, it is the individual own system generating the relief in your blind studies. True Cures doesn't stimulate relief, it stimulates an immune response that eliminates the pathogens causing the OBs which makes it a cure instead of relief.

    I have Bcc'd a few people from the Blog here who have contacted me so they are aware that I am no longer assuming Duke isn't interested in cures that can't be patented. I didn't do it to imply anything about you or your work but to imply that I am willing to do my part to ensure that Duke is aware of True Cures for herpes and to make you aware. I have been very hard on Duke and the University of Florida on the blog and I would be grateful to be proven wrong about my assumptions. I have contacted many universities and research centers which is why I reached the negative conclusion that universities are not interested in cures that cannot be patented. I will also post a copy of this email on the blog.

    I hope to learn we are all on the same page and more interested in a cure than money so I can retract my statements and give you the cure you have been searching for.

    David Flowers, Owner
    True Cures: Restore your immune response.
    (website removed)
    (website removed)
    1134 South Park Street
    Payette, ID 83661
    208-741-0759

    Please reply and ask to be removed from the list if you do not wish to receive these emails.

    October 12, 2010 at 12:11 | Report abuse | Reply
    • John

      True Cures. Please refrain from trolling these boards for your own benefit. I hope I don't have to track down a moderator. you continually put up the same long post(s) over and over again.You got a lot of nerve. And why do you keep bringing Robin into this? Twas a pretty sleazy thing you did. Why did you have to CC her on your e-mail?? Do you really think that we would disbelieve that you sent a mindless e-mail to a University? I mean come on. You're not fooling anyone here. Leave her name out of your dirty tricks.

      And on a similar note. Why did you put this guy from Duke on your spam e-mail list? Tis think that may be againt the law. Instead of having him having to track you down to get off of this spam list, don't you think it would have been common courtesy to ask him to reply to you and request he be put on this spam list?? Yes? Wow........

      Go home True Cures. And if there is a moderator reading this, will you please tell True Cures to stop re-posting the same very long posts over and over again – WITH

      October 12, 2010 at 20:55 | Report abuse |
    • John

      True Cures. Please refrain from trolling these boards for your own benefit. I hope I don't have to track down a moderator. You continually put up the same long post(s) over and over again.You got a lot of nerve. And why do you keep bringing Robin into this? Twas a pretty sleazy thing you did. Why did you have to CC her on your e-mail?? Do you really think that we would disbelieve that you sent a mindless e-mail to a University? I mean come on. You're not fooling anyone here. Leave her name out of your dirty tricks.

      And on a similar note. Why did you put this guy from Duke on your spam e-mail list? Tis think that may be againt the law. Instead of having him having to track you down to get off of this spam list, don't you think it would have been common courtesy to ask him to reply to you and request he be put on this spam list?? Yes? You gotta lot of nerve...

      Go home True Cures. And if there is a moderator reading this, will you please tell True Cures to stop re-posting the same very long posts over and over again – WITH HIS COMMERCIAL LINKS FIRMLY AND CLEARLY PLANTED IN THEM!!!!

      It is one thing to post a short post with a link to a petition over and over again that you have no financial ties to. Quite another to post a million links to your commercial site(s). True Cures. Those of us here aren't about to fork over a dime to you so you can travel on another one of your vacations to us. Go get a job and quit hounding us here.

      October 12, 2010 at 21:01 | Report abuse |
    • John

      And P.S True Cures. I just ended up with two posts here, although the first is incomplete. So I hit the 'report abuse' button on my first post. Hopefully a moderator will arrive on the scene and get rid of the first post – plus about a million of your duplicate ones.

      October 12, 2010 at 21:06 | Report abuse |
    • David Flowers

      John.

      I guess it depends on how you look at things. If you think it is right and fair to constantly post comments over and over begging for donations for more and more failing research said to be supposedly looking for a cure, which if you look at the grants and the studies your donation go for, they do not read at all that they are looking for a cure but for me to post over and over about existing cures that cannot be patented and therefore ignored by universities and the medical industry as out of line, you truly are a sick and twisted individual. What does science fiction call your disease?

      I repost my comments because my comments are the truth and what many of the people reading this forum are looking for. I must repost them because you and the other medical industry employees here keep bumping my comments back by reposting the same garbage that has been posted for 75 years and over and over and over here with no cures to show for it. Nothing but continual begging for money like pan handlers but WORSE, pan handlers are people that often become aware of how screwed up the world is and they just put on the breaks and get out. You have your work cut out for you John. As long as CNN is against censorship your beloved herpes industry is coming to an end. Lamisil will see to that. For those of you who want the truth, google "Lamisil will cure herpes every time."

      Forgive me John if your threats do not concern me. If CNN chooses to censor the truth under the ruse of duplicate posting without banning all of you for posting on Dukes behalf I will enjoy showing the world how even CNN bans the discussion of cures that cannot be patented.

      Now if you will excuse me I have work to do. I need to read and see if there are any more duplicate post about donating to Duke and if there are I need to repost the letter that shows Duke is aware of cures already existing for herpes.

      truecures.com
      healingunderground.com
      hubpages.com for hubs by true cures

      October 13, 2010 at 12:03 | Report abuse |
  9. John

    P.P.S. – CNN MODERATORS!!!!!!!!!

    I just saw this on True Cures commercial site. And I am not about to post the link to it. It has been posted here a million times. The so-called Healing Underground site (one of several sites he operates).

    "I have been blogging on CNN for a few days. I'm only getting attacked by the people begging for donations from Duke, University of Florida and other universities. No one is disputing my claims or even arguing them they just say that anyone who claims there is a cure for herpes is a scam.

    They forced me to prove medicine is a scam because I listed information about a certain medical drug that will cure herpes and is quite easy to get. (Those of you who cannot reach me might find that information useful.)

    I would appreciate it if you all would leave a comment by clicking on the link above, you don't have to give anything more than a anonymous name and an email and suggest with a comment that CNN investigate my claims to see if anyone can actually dispute them or validate them. It's CNN.... and True Cures should be news. Please make a note that you are watching the blog to see if CNN censors the information without demanding an investigation or anything at all.

    Cut and paste the comment below if you want to keep it really easy. They will know it isn't me because of the IP addresses. It is OK if this is posted a hundred times as long as it is under separate user names and separate IP addresses. The donation seekers are going to keep bumping mine and your comments so feel free to post this over and over until CNN does something. Thanks for your support. David"

    October 13, 2010 at 00:24 | Report abuse | Reply
  10. John

    P.P.S. – CNN MODERATORS!!!!!!!!!

    I just saw this on True Cures commercial site. And I am not about to post the link to it. It has been posted here a million times. The so-called Healing Underground site (one of several sites he operates).

    "I have been blogging on CNN for a few days. I'm only getting attacked by the people begging for donations from Duke, University of Florida and other universities. No one is disputing my claims or even arguing them they just say that anyone who claims there is a cure for herpes is a scam.

    They forced me to prove medicine is a scam because I listed information about a certain medical drug that will cure herpes and is quite easy to get. (Those of you who cannot reach me might find that information useful.)

    I would appreciate it if you all would leave a comment by clicking on the link above, you don't have to give anything more than a anonymous name and an email and suggest with a comment that CNN investigate my claims to see if anyone can actually dispute them or validate them. It's CNN.... and True Cures should be news. Please make a note that you are watching the blog to see if CNN censors the information without demanding an investigation or anything at all.

    Cut and paste the comment below if you want to keep it really easy. They will know it isn't me because of the IP addresses. It is OK if this is posted a hundred times as long as it is under separate user names and separate IP addresses. The donation seekers are going to keep bumping mine and your comments so feel free to post this over and over until CNN does something. Thanks for your support. David"

    Enough is enough.

    Moderators. Will you please do something about this!!!!!!

    October 13, 2010 at 00:26 | Report abuse | Reply
  11. John

    Sorry folks. Not sure what is up with my computer tonight but I keep getting double posts, with the first one partially cut off. My apologies.

    And Flowers. Quit spamming this board.

    October 13, 2010 at 00:32 | Report abuse | Reply
  12. Janet

    John he isn't spamming he has a right to an opinion as well. Dispute his claims don't just bash him. It's starting to seem real obvious everyone puttin him down. If yo really have herpes wouldn't you want to get cured instead of keep waiting for a cure??? He's trying and well all be waiting for duke to reply to his email. Why should a moderator have to delete him. HE IS TRYING TO HELP.

    October 13, 2010 at 00:35 | Report abuse | Reply
  13. John

    Janet. Of course everyone here wants to get cured. And his claims have been disputed many times here already. Have you read the whole blog? That seems to be an excuse that True Cures conviently falls back on. But mark my words, they have been disputed.

    I don't want to turn this blog into one long True Cures fight. It seems that is what happens on whatever site he goes to. Janet. And true cures. My repeated challenge still stands. Bring 12 people here that you have cured of herpes so we can hear their story. Considering you have "cured" many hundreds. Is that too much to ask?

    October 13, 2010 at 01:21 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      John you are so handy with copy and paste, why don't you copy and paste any dispute made here or anywhere on the internet to my claims that are actual scientific and not just someone upset because I am letting the cat out of the bag. Find me one dispute you can copy and paste here where the poster is spitting mad and calling me names thinking that name calling is a dispute against my claims.

      Show me any comment across the web where someone has respectfully disputed a claim of mine other than saying "uhuh, science say's it can't be cured". No there is not a single dispute to my claims John just a bunch of scared medical industry people afraid of being viewed as villains when I expose the truth.

      truecures.com
      healingunderground.com
      search "lamisil cures herpes every single time"

      October 13, 2010 at 12:15 | Report abuse |
  14. B

    I've seen people become emotionally distraught over this diagnosis. When people are saying, "I would rather have cancer, than herpes," that is a problem. Gential herpes is more of an emotional battle! For the ones who suffer of multiple outbreaks are obviously in physical pain as well as emotional pain. The problem with natural cures is, there's no clear evidence! It simply lacks the animal and human clinical trials and all the other miscellaneous requirements. I'm not saying natural cures are bogus! Plus the initial reason scientist decided to find a cure is because how serious ocular herpes can be. This then openned the doors to hopefully curing genital herpes aka HSV2. Not to forget the mention genital herpes increases your risk significantly of being infected by HIV. It's a very interesting topic and the only way there will ever be a cure is if we donate and support the research. Talking about it, dreaming about it, and thinking about will not get us anywhere. Acting will make the world of a difference. Spread the word and get people to donate. I've made my first step. I'm currently designing a pamphlet that describes herpes and what scientists are doing to cure the virus. Plus, I've already donated. Next, I will be giving speeches at the university I graduated from. I plan to visit large organizations discussing the new research on curing herpes and what they can do to support the cure.

    October 13, 2010 at 05:09 | Report abuse | Reply
  15. B

    I think many need to be thanking the corneal specialist for believing the virus can be killed. Dr. Bloom was very pessimistic when this idea was approached to him. Now, he knows how to kill the virus in the laboratoy.There's a whole team of them that deserve a "thank you" for their hard efforts. This will unravel the chain for many other cures.

    October 13, 2010 at 05:16 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      There is not one reader here who cannot kill the virus in a laboratory B. I'm going to shed a little light on your agenda here by starting with the obvious.

      One of my claims that has NEVER been disputed is the fact that no one ever actually sees a herpes virus. Your doctor has never seen it, the lab technicians that analyze samples of blood or swabs of sores never ever see a virus and as far as you and I are aware B, Bloom has never seen a real herpes virus.

      The fact that herpes is more often than not a fungus it's natural to assume that Bloom is looking at fungus if he is looking at anything and to suggest Bloom cannot kill any pathogen in a laboratory is utterly deceptive and manipulative. There is no pathogen that cannot be killed with common house hold products when the products are applied directly to the pathogen.

      The trick is, how do you get the product to the pathogen with an amount strong enough to kill the pathogen. Well that isn't the MOST IMPORTANT trick, the most important trick for Bloom to learn is how does he get the poison product to the ONE pathogen they are trying to cure without killing another hundred other types of pathogens and destroying medicine in one small mistake.

      The pathogen causing herpes is just as inferior as any pathogen. BLOOMS PROBLEM IS HOW TO KILL HERPES WITHOUT KILLING HPV, HCV, HIV, CMT, EBV, Lyme and every other pathogen known to man.

      B, keep asking people to support Bloom so he can keep pulling the wool over people eyes or take a new stance and tell Bloom to let the cat out of the bag and cure herpes even if it cures a dozen other pathogens at the same time.

      If Bloom doesn't have a conscious contact Cullen from Duke and tell him the same thing. No one is going to be cured by medicine if they do not force medicine to cure them. Don't ask them to cure you don't donate to their wicked cause until YOU KNOW THE TRUTH.

      Anyone can kill a pathogen in a laboratory B. Please don't treat people here as if they are idiots. Please do not use science fiction to try to speak over people. I will call you on, no matter how good or bad your intentions are. I will be watching you.

      NOW, John, did you see how easy it was for me to dispute B and Blooms claims? Lamisil will not only kill herpes in a lab but in a person as well. Very easy to dispute. I didn't call B any names or try to get B banned. I simply laid out the facts for people to process for themselves.
      references
      hubpage "lamisil cures herpes every single time"
      truecures.com
      healingunderground.com

      October 13, 2010 at 12:31 | Report abuse |
  16. David Flowers

    Scientifically speaking the fact that Lamisil is being ignored by the medical industry personal here like John, Jay, Melody and B is pretty solid proof that your medical cure for herpes is already here, just wrapped up in the wrong package.

    You see John would be attacking this claim of Lamisil curing herpes made by me if John had a leg to stand on. See John knows that too many people with herpes have yellow nail fungus but that isn't it, John also knows that too few people with yellow nail fungus will test negative for herpes.

    John cannot prove or disprove that Lamisil will cure herpes but he certainly has no leg to stand on when it comes to proving that herpes and nail fungus go hand and hand and foot and foot.

    If you have herpes it is likely only a matter of time before you have nail fungus. John knows this, so does B and so does anyone else posting information trying to direct you away from my comments.

    It is not my intentions for you people to use lamisil to cure herpes, it is my intentions to teach you all how to cure herpes without using any poison such as lamisil even if lamisil really doesn't have any ill side effects.

    I shared the lamisil information so you all know that medicine and universities are not being straight with you on what is and what isn't herpes and whether of not it can or cannot be cured with a drug.

    Let's see your dispute John.

    October 13, 2010 at 13:20 | Report abuse | Reply
  17. Jay

    David Flowers

    Haha Flowers your back......your like a moth to the flame....what's the problem can't get any clients to pay for your air miles?

    I couldn't resist posting you here, I can't stop laughing at your claims.....seriously my belly hurts your like a comedian

    You really should take up writing childrens books because you have a knack at telling stories that are from a fantasy land

    Do you seriously want me to post another poem for you? I know you cried last time I did

    How are the food stamps going? Are you still shooting elk and growing your vegetables? Christmas is coming soon I must send you a card

    Hey I just read another part of your post

    "No there is not a single dispute to my claims John just a bunch of scared medical industry people afraid of being viewed as villains when I expose the truth."

    Well if anyone has not seen my earlier post here is what one of David Flowers customers had to say about him, just type in David Flowers scam on google and you will find many more

    TRUE CURES DOES NOT CURE
    There are many people out there claiming that they can cure Herpes. I am going to tell you about one of these so called healers named David Flowers aka True Cures. Back in March 2009, 14 people met with David Flowers in New York. We were all suffering with the herpes virus.

    Mr. Flowers told us that he could cure us in just two weeks. Some of us flew in from different states and one person even cam from Canada. He also put us on the no carb diet. He claimed that we all suffered from fungus and parasites and when the fungus and parasites were eliminated then we will be okay. We paid for his hotel, his meals and gave him money and most of us gave him money individually.

    One month later some of us were still getting outbreaks and we complained to Mr. Flowers. He told us that was impossible and cursed us out. He complained that we were only saying that we had herpes to avoid giving him more money. Now, he had originally said to us that we don't need to pay him but that quickly changed as soon as we complained that we were not cured. A few of us tested and reported that we were still positive for the herpes virus but that angered him even more.

    He then told us that the cure date was no longer 2 weeks but 2 years.

    Today, December 28th, 2009, and everyone one of the 14 who saw True Cures back in March 2009 are still uncured. We have been humiliated and we feel deceived and scammed by True Cures.

    Mr. Flowers aka True Cures is still peddling his one man show. He now claims he can cure HIV. Because of his practices he has been banned from several sites. He has been banned from several sites such as racoon.com, shutupandpost.com

    BUYER BEWARE – HE CANNOT CURE DISEASES! HE DID NOT CURE THE 14 IN NY OR THE OTHER PEOPLE HE SAW IN FLORIDA, CHICAGO AND TEXAS.

    TRUE CURES has NOT cured ANYONE of any diseases/viruses! Ask him where is the test showing they are negative and he cannot product it!

    October 13, 2010 at 18:33 | Report abuse | Reply
  18. B

    I will never waste my time on arguing with an individual that I have never met. Medicine has cured people time after time. Wlill the herpes virus ever be cured? Will HIV/AIDS ever be cured? WIll serious forms of cancer be cured? The answer is, "WE DONT KNOW". I guess having faith will guide one in the right direction. If one would like to donate, then donate! If not, then don't. That simple! I hope your day gets better! No reason to live angry!

    October 13, 2010 at 19:57 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      B, try not to be so naive and stop saying stuff like "Wlill the herpes virus ever be cured? Will HIV/AIDS ever be cured? WIll serious forms of cancer be cured? The answer is, "WE DONT KNOW"."

      Unless you have a mouse in your pocket when you say "WE", you need to correct yourself. Because WE do know. WE already know there are cures for HIV/AIDS, deadly cancers and all herpes. I don't have a mouse in my pocket when I say "WE", I have hundreds of clients that already know "WE" can cure herpes.

      SO, clean up your column here and STICK with the facts B. You could say, "will medicine ever INTENTIONALLY cure herpes, AIDS or cancer?" Now you could say "WE WILL NEVER KNOW" but you would probably be within reason to just say "NO, THEY WILL NOT" because that is the most likely answer there is. WHY, because there is no money in cures and no one here can DISPUTE that.

      FOR THE RECORD.
      Lamisil will cure herpes in a few weeks or a month with a doctors prescription, Google "Lamisil cures herpes every time!"

      True Cures will cure herpes in less than two weeks and allow a person to test negative, google truecures.com

      THAT MAKES TWO CURES RIGHT THERE FOR HERPES and True Cures will cure cancer and AIDS too. Lamisil will most likely cure most cancers because it is not established that cancer is not a fungus either. If a person's cancer is fungal like many scientist and doctors today are suggesting it stands to reason that if Lamisil doesn't cure it. it will be on the cuff of curing it.

      That's right folks, cancer is more often than not proving to be fungal or viral in nature! If a cancer is fungal then Lamisil will likely cure it if your doctor will risk curing you. I'm certain you will find most cancer patients loaded with yellow nail fungus as well.

      Fungus is the most ignored human health hazard even known and the truth is being exposed right here on CNN. Tune in for more facts throughout the week.

      Remember, anyone who truly has herpes will be looking for a cure and they will not dismiss anything that seem reasonable. Anyone attacking me here without disputing my claims like melody, Jay and John who could all be the same person are here for one reason, and that is to see to it that you continue to suffer and pay and pay and pay while you suffer.

      I will be here all week but I am no longer curing people of herpes, if you want to be cured of herpes and you do not want to use Lamisil your only option is to learn to cure yourself. I will not be charging people to learn to cure herpes. I am doing this to heap hot coals on Jay/John/Melody/blackngold and the whole corrupt medical industry that refuses to cure a simple disease like herpes. Visit the healingunderground.com if you do not want to cast your pearls before swine here.

      October 14, 2010 at 11:40 | Report abuse |
  19. melody

    Jay... Oh my God... thank you for making me laugh so hard today... I needed it.
    I cannot believe that the rat is still here. I was seriously getting annoyed with him. He is far from being delusional, please don't even try to find any excuses for him, he totally knows that he can't cure sh..t and he is simply groce. The fact that he keeps coming back here is totally disgusting(how can he live with himself screwing people over?)... and insulting(he really think we are stupid here) and I truly hope that this person who wrote to defend him was nobody else then him again(you can't possibly be that clueless)... but if you are go head, let him hill you and let us know how it goes. Anyhow, enough about him. TC/DF... JUST GIVE UP! Don't you dare mention my name ever again you scum bag!

    B
    You are so wonderful, I am not sure where you live but please let me know if you need any volunteers or any help putting anything together. Thank you.

    October 13, 2010 at 20:27 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      Hi melody, I mean Jay or John whoever you are. I think highly of you too.

      Whoever you are, you are welcome to learn how to use your immune system to cure herpes if you like. There is no charge and the cure for herpes is the cure for any disease because that is what the immune system does. So don't get tunnel vision here and dismiss True Cures because YOU DON'T have herpes. You have plenty of diseases you can cure.

      truecures.com

      October 14, 2010 at 11:44 | Report abuse |
  20. B

    Please critique my writing!

    October 14, 2010 at 13:20 | Report abuse | Reply
  21. Jay

    Hi Melody haha thank you so much for your kind comments he wont even answer me anymore,

    Maybe a POEM MIGHT HELP..................YEAHHHH!!!!! A poem just for your Flowers I have written some great poems for you before just give me some time and I will perfect the masterpiece my friend

    By the way what would you like for a xmas present flowers? I am going to give you the choice of:

    Barney the bear cuddly toy
    Some caps for your elk shooting
    An internet wife cause we all know your lonely
    Hey a sprinkler for your veggies
    A new fanny pack with writing saying "You all have yellow nail fungus.....get a pedecure immediately"
    A T-shirt saying "You think he was funny ??? wait till you hear my story about how to cure herpes"
    or I could even try and get you a voucher for air miles cause I know you need a top up

    The choice is yours my friend, you just let me know.......I am here for you

    October 14, 2010 at 13:22 | Report abuse | Reply
  22. Jay

    Ok Bad news everyone!!!!!

    I just went on David Flowers website there is a picture of him and all I can say is.... well only a mother could love that face

    So if he does choose the internet bride for a christmas present would everyone please chip in a few dollars and donate cause I dont even think sylvester stallone's mother would give him a second look, its gonna cost me a fortune

    Im gonna call the campaign "The 40 year old virgin"

    Thanks guys your co-operation is very much appreciated, I still think he will go for barney the bear cuddly toy but hey I gotta have a back up plan just in case

    See Flowers I do look after you 🙂

    October 14, 2010 at 13:57 | Report abuse | Reply
  23. B

    Does anyone know the mailing address to donate to Dr. Blooms current research project on herpes? I found several email addresses, but no mailing address.

    October 14, 2010 at 20:16 | Report abuse | Reply
  24. Herpster

    Guys, please sign the petition to cute herpes.. And spread the URL around in other herpes forums. We need a million signatures before we are taken seriously.
    If you want to help yourself and others, spread the link around and sign sign sign

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/

    we need to spread the link around and get some attention !! Nobody wants this crap virus

    October 15, 2010 at 09:22 | Report abuse | Reply
  25. B

    I've signed it. I'm having everyone at my work sign it. I've added it to my pamphlets. The pamphlets include information about the herpes virus, medical problems related to herpes, simple statistics, how people can become active, and what Dr. Bloom and Dr. Cullen research is focused on. Plus, I've added a ribbon in each pamphlet for the cure on herpes.

    October 15, 2010 at 14:51 | Report abuse | Reply
  26. David Flowers

    This is my last email to make sure Dr. David Bloom is also aware of cures that already exist for herpes. This will let B and all of you know that Bloom is aware and you guys can see if he, Cullen, CNN or KTVB care about cures that cannot be patented. I suggest you contact Bloom, Cullen, KTVB and CNN and ask them what they plan to do about my claims. Really, how much would it cost to verify my work? It won't take more than two weeks for me to prove my work and herpes will cease to exist. I just emailed this 10/15/2010 and I will repost this every time someone suggest Bloom or Cullen are interested in cures for herpes, even cure that cannot be patented. Your turn Jay.

    Subject: Dr. David Bloom, Dr. Bryab Cullen, Boise's KTVB News, CNN News, HSV Petition

    Dear Mr Bloom and Mr Cullen,

    I have already contacted Bryan about existing and consistent cures for all types of HSV that cannot be patented and sold. I am now taking a moment to contact you both so that I can let people know that I am indeed in contact with you guys. I will continue to stay in contact with you because according to the CNN blog at (website removed to prevent moderating) you guys are the leading herpes researchers of the times and would like you to be aware of cures that already exist for herpes but cannot be patented and sold.

    According to the blog, University of Florida and Duke are both on the verge of major breakthroughs in curing herpes and the only thing said to be in your way is lack of funding hence the demands on the blog for more donations for your work. Now, I for one am willing to concede that both Duke and University of Florida have always been on some verge of a breakthrough or another for the past 100 years without every really breaking through so I feel it is important that the consumers and the Universities are made aware of existing cures that cannot be patented for herpes and other diseases. I know medicine and the media ignore cures that cannot be patented and I like to assume as such the cures are consequently hidden from you two and that you guys are indeed more interested in cures than profits so here I am making you aware of cures for herpes that cannot be patented.

    It is my intentions to share the cure with you guys, but due to the obvious corruption of medicine and media I cannot sit back and assume this email will be taken seriously so I have sent a copy of it to several media sources so they can also be made aware of cures that cannot be patented and therefore ignored and if they too choose to ignore the cures they can be held accountable as well. I will use this email for proving that the media, Duke University and University of Florida are indeed aware of cures, whether you choose to investigate them or not. You see the only way I am discredited is by the belief that if I was telling the truth about cures, you guys would be selling them and the media would be reporting them. This is why I am putting the ball in your courts. You can now prove that you guys or the media is truly interested in cures that cannot be patented and sold.

    My research (which has lead to consistent cures for diseases such as herpes, showing it is stronger than your research) has shown that a person with nail fungus (which you should already be aware is extremely common in people diagnosed with herpes) can also cure herpes with the prescription medicine Lamisil tablets used to cure nail fungus. I'm still waiting to hear of a case where Lamisil doesn't cure herpes or causes ill side effects. So far it is a perfect cure for herpes, but True Cures cures almost everything in the process of curing herpes which is why I do not use Lamisil to cure my clients of herpes, I use the immune system with complete consistency and it takes less than two weeks. In a nutshell I use the same immune response that powers the immune response behind every immune response you guys see in your blind studies. If need be for demonstration purposes, I can take a sugar pill and make it completely consistent at curing herpes because as you know the sugar pill has no healing qualities, it is the individual's own system generating the relief during your blind studies. True Cures doesn't stimulate relief, it stimulates an immune response that eliminates the pathogens known to cause the outbreaks which makes it a cure instead of relief.

    I have BCC'd several people from the blog above and numerous other potential clients who are waiting to be cured so they are aware that I am no longer assuming Duke and University of Florida isn't interested in cures that can't be patented. I didn't do it to imply anything about you guys or your work but to imply that I am willing to do my part to ensure that Duke and U of F is aware of True Cures for herpes and to make you aware personally. I have been very hard on Duke and the University of Florida on the blog and I would be grateful to be proven wrong about my assumptions. I have contacted many universities and research centers which is why I reached the negative conclusion that universities are not interested in cures that cannot be patented. I will also post a copy of this email on the blog.

    I hope to learn we are all on the same page and more interested in cures than money so I can retract my statements and give you the cure you have been searching for. I look forward to a response to my email or a response on any of the blogs this email is posted on.

    Sincerely,

    David Flowers, Owner
    True Cures: Restore your immune response.
    truecures.com
    healingunderground.com
    1134 South Park Street
    Payette, ID 83661
    208-741-0759

    Please reply and ask to be removed from the list if you do not wish to receive these emails.

    October 15, 2010 at 15:10 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      Thank you for contacting CNN. This email is to notify you that your news tip has been received and will be reviewed in a timely manner. You will be contacted if the news tip is valid and we need further information and verification.

      We appreciate your news tip and thank you for choosing CNN as your breaking news source.

      Sincerely,

      CNN Viewer Communications Management
      "CNN, The Most Trusted Name In News"

      October 15, 2010 at 15:12 | Report abuse |
    • David Flowers

      I just posted the email to David Bloom that B was looking for. I also posted the email for KBTV News and Bryan Cullen. If they moderate it out because I posted it and you want it, I will give it to you. Hopefully CNN will see fit to post the email addresses for those responsible for telling you when you can or cannot be cured of herpes. Being that the media, Duke and U of F are the only thing between you and a True Cure for your herpes.

      Funny how you all tend to need someone's blessing before you can accept the truth.

      October 15, 2010 at 15:27 | Report abuse |
    • John

      Go home Flowers. You have been exposed for the conman you are. Read my post just below this one.

      And P.S. – I am chaining my wallet to my clothes everytime I come on to this site. YOU WILL NOT GET A HOLD OF IT.

      So go home and quit hounding people on support sites. You ain't welcome here.

      October 15, 2010 at 16:29 | Report abuse |
    • David Flowers

      Out of office reply to my email...

      Professor Bryan R Cullen is out of the office.
      ...
      From:
      Bryan R Cullen
      ...
      Add to Contacts
      To: (email removed to prevent moderation)

      I will be out of the office starting 10/12/2010 and will not return until
      10/21/2010.

      Dr. Cullen is currently traveling out of the country. He will be monitoring
      his e-mail when possible and will reply to messages when he can.

      If your message is urgent, please contact his assistant Christine Krupa at
      (removed) or via e-mail at (removed) and she will respond as
      soon as possible.

      Hey Jay/John you aren't fooling anyone here. This blog is the best thing that has ever happened to curing herpes. Why? Because it is the only blog that is not blatantly censored to protect the corruption of the medical industry.

      October 15, 2010 at 16:35 | Report abuse |
  27. John

    People! Watch your wallets! Or True Cures might get a hold of them!

    A little investi-googling of True Cures this afternoon turned up this choice tidbit. It appears he has been lying to us about strictly being on a donation basis. It appears people have been following his scams for years. And he appears to have been separating people from their wallets for years as well.

    Buyer Beware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Folks – Just my yearly update about True Cures. Unfortunately it hasn't improved much. Meaning not at all. David Flowers is still not curing people of herpes... or Hiv.... or cancer.... or diabetes......

    And he claims he can "cure" all diseases in a matter of weeks.... Well a few visits with him anyway (rolling my eyes).......

    So sad....................................................

    He was thrown off of this site a year and a half ago for repeatedly breaking the Terms of Service of this website, but yet he kept coming back under new bogus handles and creating more trouble. Only to be thrown off yet again. He still disparages this site, along with the dozens he has been thrown off of – repeatedly. The guy has way toooo much time on his hands. When you haven't had a job in close to 20 years.....

    Well let's just say you have a lot of free time on your hands. And he spends it hounding innocent people on internet sites set up for support – and the sad fact is that these people are suffering serious health issues.........

    But hey. If True Cures can make a buck from it? Well all manners and decency fly out the window. So sad....................

    And to clear up one of his (many) myths.......

    True Cures is back to working on so-called donations now. But that hasn't always been the case. There have been times that he had a set fee. And there have been times that he had a set "donation" fee (and "donation" is used very loosely). There was a time this fee was at $5,000.

    Did anyone pay him this? Only a fly on the wall would know. I certainly hope not. Flowers has claimed not. But he has lied many times before. In fact he is a pathological liar. And he claims herpes isn't a virus. And that there is no such thing as cancer or Hiv. And that both "Western Medicine" and "Alternative Medicine" are one in the same and completely useless. And that if one has seen results from either......

    Well it was really because that they were secretly and unknowingly using "True Cures". Because "True Cures" is the basis of all true science and medicine/healing in the world (rolling my eyes for the millionth time)...................................................

    A quote from his website last year regarding fees................

    TrueCures

    4 weeks ago

    says:

    From now on I am going to be a spiritual healer and I am going to charge a fortune.

    It's going to go like this, someone will ask what I will charge to cure them and I will ask them what is it worth to them to be cured and that is what I am going to be paid. If they think being cured of herpes is worth 300 dollars I might get the notion they are lying. 😉

    By decorating True Cures as a spiritual healing it take all the negativity out of it. People can continue to live their lives completely oblivious to the true reasons for all the suffering.

    I'm not oblivious to the cause of the suffering. I live with it every moment I am awake. For me to help people without them having to bear some of the burden is going to be expensive.

    And from his website this June......................................

    Cost of Services

    Cost is not an issue until you understand your immune system is responsible for keeping you disease free, not medicine or doctors.

    Contact me when you have done your due diligence and personal sole searching.

    When you realize you have an immune system and its immune response can cure you it will not matter what the cost is because cures are priceless. If you have to ask me what the cost is you are not ready to be cured.

    When you find the truth you can afford to be cured no matter what.

    "Belief" is the only thing preventing you from being cured or learning True Cures. Forget belief and search for truth.

    October 15, 2010 at 16:17 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      Hello BlackNgold/positiveenergies, we meet again. I suspected you were one or more of the poets here pos but wasn't sure until now.

      For the readers, John, Jay and melody are more than likely blackngold from the CureZone who is seriously against cures that do not require gimmick products being that her beloved CureZone folds with the introduction of True Cures. Blackngold is also known as positiveenergies. If you want to know how ugly she can be, see her hubpages where she pretends to be posters under handles like Hardcore Holly and see how trailer trash her hub pages are.

      Now that positiveenergies/blackngold has been called out, get ready for some real trash talk by her.

      I will have to repost the last email because blackngold/positiveenergies/john/jay/melody will continue to bump me.

      October 15, 2010 at 16:43 | Report abuse |
  28. David Flowers

    This is my last email to make sure Dr. David Bloom is also aware of cures that already exist for herpes. This will let B and all of you know that Bloom is aware and you guys can see if he, Cullen, CNN or KTVB care about cures that cannot be patented. I suggest you contact Bloom, Cullen, KTVB and CNN and ask them what they plan to do about my claims. Really, how much would it cost to verify my work? It won't take more than two weeks for me to prove my work and herpes will cease to exist. I just emailed this 10/15/2010 and I will repost this every time someone suggest Bloom or Cullen are interested in cures for herpes, even cure that cannot be patented. Your turn Jay.

    Subject: Dr. David Bloom, Dr. Bryab Cullen, Boise's KTVB News, CNN News, HSV Petition

    Dear Mr Bloom and Mr Cullen,

    I have already contacted Bryan about existing and consistent cures for all types of HSV that cannot be patented and sold. I am now taking a moment to contact you both so that I can let people know that I am indeed in contact with you guys. I will continue to stay in contact with you because according to the CNN blog at (website removed to prevent moderating) you guys are the leading herpes researchers of the times and would like you to be aware of cures that already exist for herpes but cannot be patented and sold.

    According to the blog, University of Florida and Duke are both on the verge of major breakthroughs in curing herpes and the only thing said to be in your way is lack of funding hence the demands on the blog for more donations for your work. Now, I for one am willing to concede that both Duke and University of Florida have always been on some verge of a breakthrough or another for the past 100 years without every really breaking through so I feel it is important that the consumers and the Universities are made aware of existing cures that cannot be patented for herpes and other diseases. I know medicine and the media ignore cures that cannot be patented and I like to assume as such the cures are consequently hidden from you two and that you guys are indeed more interested in cures than profits so here I am making you aware of cures for herpes that cannot be patented.

    It is my intentions to share the cure with you guys, but due to the obvious corruption of medicine and media I cannot sit back and assume this email will be taken seriously so I have sent a copy of it to several media sources so they can also be made aware of cures that cannot be patented and therefore ignored and if they too choose to ignore the cures they can be held accountable as well. I will use this email for proving that the media, Duke University and University of Florida are indeed aware of cures, whether you choose to investigate them or not. You see the only way I am discredited is by the belief that if I was telling the truth about cures, you guys would be selling them and the media would be reporting them. This is why I am putting the ball in your courts. You can now prove that you guys or the media is truly interested in cures that cannot be patented and sold.

    My research (which has lead to consistent cures for diseases such as herpes, showing it is stronger than your research) has shown that a person with nail fungus (which you should already be aware is extremely common in people diagnosed with herpes) can also cure herpes with the prescription medicine Lamisil tablets used to cure nail fungus. I'm still waiting to hear of a case where Lamisil doesn't cure herpes or causes ill side effects. So far it is a perfect cure for herpes, but True Cures cures almost everything in the process of curing herpes which is why I do not use Lamisil to cure my clients of herpes, I use the immune system with complete consistency and it takes less than two weeks. In a nutshell I use the same immune response that powers the immune response behind every immune response you guys see in your blind studies. If need be for demonstration purposes, I can take a sugar pill and make it completely consistent at curing herpes because as you know the sugar pill has no healing qualities, it is the individual's own system generating the relief during your blind studies. True Cures doesn't stimulate relief, it stimulates an immune response that eliminates the pathogens known to cause the outbreaks which makes it a cure instead of relief.

    I have BCC'd several people from the blog above and numerous other potential clients who are waiting to be cured so they are aware that I am no longer assuming Duke and University of Florida isn't interested in cures that can't be patented. I didn't do it to imply anything about you guys or your work but to imply that I am willing to do my part to ensure that Duke and U of F is aware of True Cures for herpes and to make you aware personally. I have been very hard on Duke and the University of Florida on the blog and I would be grateful to be proven wrong about my assumptions. I have contacted many universities and research centers which is why I reached the negative conclusion that universities are not interested in cures that cannot be patented. I will also post a copy of this email on the blog.

    I hope to learn we are all on the same page and more interested in cures than money so I can retract my statements and give you the cure you have been searching for. I look forward to a response to my email or a response on any of the blogs this email is posted on.

    Sincerely,

    David Flowers, Owner
    True Cures: Restore your immune response.
    truecures.com
    healingunderground.com
    1134 South Park Street
    Payette, ID 83661
    208-741-0759

    Please reply and ask to be removed from the list if you do not wish to receive these emails.

    October 15, 2010 at 16:44 | Report abuse | Reply
  29. John

    Flowers – You have a lot of nerve accusing me of being someone I am not. You have accused me of being Jay, Melody, Martin and now blackand gold and positiveenergy. I am not any of these people! When will you get it through you thick head that you are not wanted here? This is a herpes support forum. NOT A FORUM FOR YOU TO PEDDLE YOUR EVIL WARES! Go home!

    People! Watch your wallets! Or True Cures might get a hold of them!

    A little investi-googling of True Cures this afternoon turned up this choice tidbit. It appears he has been lying to us about strictly being on a donation basis. It appears people have been following his scams for years. And he appears to have been separating people from their wallets for years as well.

    Buyer Beware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Folks – Just my yearly update about True Cures. Unfortunately it hasn't improved much. Meaning not at all. David Flowers is still not curing people of herpes... or Hiv.... or cancer.... or diabetes......

    And he claims he can "cure" all diseases in a matter of weeks.... Well a few visits with him anyway (rolling my eyes).......

    So sad....................................................

    He was thrown off of this site a year and a half ago for repeatedly breaking the Terms of Service of this website, but yet he kept coming back under new bogus handles and creating more trouble. Only to be thrown off yet again. He still disparages this site, along with the dozens he has been thrown off of – repeatedly. The guy has way toooo much time on his hands. When you haven't had a job in close to 20 years.....

    Well let's just say you have a lot of free time on your hands. And he spends it hounding innocent people on internet sites set up for support – and the sad fact is that these people are suffering serious health issues.........

    But hey. If True Cures can make a buck from it? Well all manners and decency fly out the window. So sad....................

    And to clear up one of his (many) myths.......

    True Cures is back to working on so-called donations now. But that hasn't always been the case. There have been times that he had a set fee. And there have been times that he had a set "donation" fee (and "donation" is used very loosely). There was a time this fee was at $5,000.

    Did anyone pay him this? Only a fly on the wall would know. I certainly hope not. Flowers has claimed not. But he has lied many times before. In fact he is a pathological liar. And he claims herpes isn't a virus. And that there is no such thing as cancer or Hiv. And that both "Western Medicine" and "Alternative Medicine" are one in the same and completely useless. And that if one has seen results from either......

    Well it was really because that they were secretly and unknowingly using "True Cures". Because "True Cures" is the basis of all true science and medicine/healing in the world (rolling my eyes for the millionth time)...................................................

    A quote from his website last year regarding fees................

    TrueCures

    4 weeks ago

    says:

    From now on I am going to be a spiritual healer and I am going to charge a fortune.

    It's going to go like this, someone will ask what I will charge to cure them and I will ask them what is it worth to them to be cured and that is what I am going to be paid. If they think being cured of herpes is worth 300 dollars I might get the notion they are lying. 😉

    By decorating True Cures as a spiritual healing it take all the negativity out of it. People can continue to live their lives completely oblivious to the true reasons for all the suffering.

    I'm not oblivious to the cause of the suffering. I live with it every moment I am awake. For me to help people without them having to bear some of the burden is going to be expensive.

    And from his website this June......................................

    Cost of Services

    Cost is not an issue until you understand your immune system is responsible for keeping you disease free, not medicine or doctors.

    Contact me when you have done your due diligence and personal sole searching.

    When you realize you have an immune system and its immune response can cure you it will not matter what the cost is because cures are priceless. If you have to ask me what the cost is you are not ready to be cured.

    When you find the truth you can afford to be cured no matter what.

    "Belief" is the only thing preventing you from being cured or learning True Cures. Forget belief and search for truth.

    October 15, 2010 at 16:51 | Report abuse | Reply
  30. David Flowers

    If I am a scam or a con, post the proof of one person I have scammed or conned. Post the proof of one person paying or donating who wants their money back.

    You see, anyone can say anything on the internet but if it isn't true it cannot be backed up. I can back up True Cures, can you back your up accusations? My information cannot be disputed because it is true and accurate.

    October 15, 2010 at 23:08 | Report abuse | Reply
  31. martin

    Please take time to fill out the petition. David, I don't see your name out there.

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/

    October 15, 2010 at 23:36 | Report abuse | Reply
  32. David Flowers

    Martin,
    I would sign the petition if I thought it would do any good. If you would like me to draft a petition with some facts that cannot be ignored I will.

    When the alternative idiots went after antiperspirants saying they are deadly they BELIEVED it was the aluminum in the antiperspirants that was harmful and their petitions fell on deaf ears when the aluminum proved to be harmless.

    Had the idiots realized the role of the lymphatic system in health and healing and the value of being able to pass god awful toxic spewing waste at the pits in an instant of stress in a freezing office the idiots would have reported that antiperspirants are deadly because they stop people from perspiring AND from passing dead pathogens like herpes. If you cannot pass a dead pathogen you body will not kill a pathogen.

    You cannot fight fiction with fiction. Besides, there are already two cures I am aware of, Lamisil for those who have nail fungus which is going to most people with herpes and then there is True Cures for those who don't have nail fungus.

    LOL, you guys keep demanding medicine cure you as if your demands mean a thing. Change your petition to force an investigation into my claims and you have something to work with. If I am a fraud John/Blackngold comes out smelling like a rose, if I am proven to be righteous in my claims you all get the blessing of the media so you can allow yourselves to accept cures that cannot be patented. As it is, you guys only do as you are told and your petition shows it.

    Subject: Dr. David Bloom, Dr. Bryab Cullen, Boise's KTVB News, CNN News, HSV Petition

    Dear Mr Bloom and Mr Cullen,

    I have already contacted Bryan about existing and consistent cures for all types of HSV that cannot be patented and sold. I am now taking a moment to contact you both so that I can let people know that I am indeed in contact with you guys. I will continue to stay in contact with you because according to the CNN blog at (website removed to prevent moderating) you guys are the leading herpes researchers of the times and would like you to be aware of cures that already exist for herpes but cannot be patented and sold.

    According to the blog, University of Florida and Duke are both on the verge of major breakthroughs in curing herpes and the only thing said to be in your way is lack of funding hence the demands on the blog for more donations for your work. Now, I for one am willing to concede that both Duke and University of Florida have always been on some verge of a breakthrough or another for the past 100 years without every really breaking through so I feel it is important that the consumers and the Universities are made aware of existing cures that cannot be patented for herpes and other diseases. I know medicine and the media ignore cures that cannot be patented and I like to assume as such the cures are consequently hidden from you two and that you guys are indeed more interested in cures than profits so here I am making you aware of cures for herpes that cannot be patented.

    It is my intentions to share the cure with you guys, but due to the obvious corruption of medicine and media I cannot sit back and assume this email will be taken seriously so I have sent a copy of it to several media sources so they can also be made aware of cures that cannot be patented and therefore ignored and if they too choose to ignore the cures they can be held accountable as well. I will use this email for proving that the media, Duke University and University of Florida are indeed aware of cures, whether you choose to investigate them or not. You see the only way I am discredited is by the belief that if I was telling the truth about cures, you guys would be selling them and the media would be reporting them. This is why I am putting the ball in your courts. You can now prove that you guys or the media is truly interested in cures that cannot be patented and sold.

    My research (which has lead to consistent cures for diseases such as herpes, showing it is stronger than your research) has shown that a person with nail fungus (which you should already be aware is extremely common in people diagnosed with herpes) can also cure herpes with the prescription medicine Lamisil tablets used to cure nail fungus. I'm still waiting to hear of a case where Lamisil doesn't cure herpes or causes ill side effects. So far it is a perfect cure for herpes, but True Cures cures almost everything in the process of curing herpes which is why I do not use Lamisil to cure my clients of herpes, I use the immune system with complete consistency and it takes less than two weeks. In a nutshell I use the same immune response that powers the immune response behind every immune response you guys see in your blind studies. If need be for demonstration purposes, I can take a sugar pill and make it completely consistent at curing herpes because as you know the sugar pill has no healing qualities, it is the individual's own system generating the relief during your blind studies. True Cures doesn't stimulate relief, it stimulates an immune response that eliminates the pathogens known to cause the outbreaks which makes it a cure instead of relief.

    I have BCC'd several people from the blog above and numerous other potential clients who are waiting to be cured so they are aware that I am no longer assuming Duke and University of Florida isn't interested in cures that can't be patented. I didn't do it to imply anything about you guys or your work but to imply that I am willing to do my part to ensure that Duke and U of F is aware of True Cures for herpes and to make you aware personally. I have been very hard on Duke and the University of Florida on the blog and I would be grateful to be proven wrong about my assumptions. I have contacted many universities and research centers which is why I reached the negative conclusion that universities are not interested in cures that cannot be patented. I will also post a copy of this email on the blog.

    I hope to learn we are all on the same page and more interested in cures than money so I can retract my statements and give you the cure you have been searching for. I look forward to a response to my email or a response on any of the blogs this email is posted on.

    Sincerely,

    David Flowers, Owner
    True Cures: Restore your immune response.
    truecures.com
    healingunderground.com
    1134 South Park Street
    Payette, ID 83661
    208-741-0759

    Please reply and ask to be removed from the list if you do not wish to receive these emails.

    October 16, 2010 at 10:08 | Report abuse | Reply
  33. Martin

    David, please provide me with your telephone number. We can discuss.

    ALL PLEASE FILL OUT THE PETITION:

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/herpescure/

    October 16, 2010 at 11:25 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      Martin,

      My number is posted on the email to Dr Bloom and Dr Cullen just above your comment. By the way, no word from either of them or CNN or KBTV.

      October 18, 2010 at 16:01 | Report abuse |
  34. Jay

    Hey Flowers my great friend how are you? I hope your having a really bad day

    "For the readers, John, Jay and melody are more than likely blackngold from the CureZone who is seriously against cures"

    What are you on about flowers? You make out were are all the same people and working at these companies yet what you FAIL to realise is we are all individual people my dear friend and we do not work for these companies

    And they were MY poems which I REALLY enjoyed writing

    I cannot believe you are wasting Cullen and Bloom's time by emailing them hilarious statements they will be shaking their head in disbelief at your claims just like we are

    I mean do you think these people are just looking busy in laboratory not trying to find cures???

    I am going to repeat what I said again why are there cures for some forms of hepatitus and other diseases? They didnt need a patent and a freely available to people

    Herpes is a Virus..........Do you know what the term Virus means Flowers?

    These people are professional, have graduated for many years and are VERY important people trying to find the cure

    You are a guy who has probably never graduated (nothing wrong with that) but you have made all this up in your mind, made up your own website, posting your details on blogs to gain business and then fleece people for their money and scam them by making out you can cure them

    Do you see Bloom and Duke doing this?

    Why are you wasting their time by making out you have a cure and talking about patents, Lamisil, yellow nail fungus and pathogens?

    Seriously Flowers think about what I am saying here

    Even cullen's assistant told you on the phone they want to find a cure and your statement was incorrect

    Just go back to growing your vegetables I mean at least you can talk to them and they will listen and wont answer back and hey invite me round for dinner sometime we can have elk stew with your organic veggies and you can make me laugh by telling me your cure stories

    October 16, 2010 at 11:38 | Report abuse | Reply
  35. Jay

    Duke and Bloom reply to Flowers Email

    Mr Flowers

    I have to tell you myself and Dr Bloom really had a great time reading your email

    I mean you really should take up being a stand up comedian we could not stop laughing

    We have even pinned the email on the staff noticeboard so when we have a bad day we can all just look at it and have a laugh

    I would make a full reply to your letter but sorry I have more important things to do

    Yours

    Dr Cullen

    October 16, 2010 at 11:45 | Report abuse | Reply
  36. George Washington

    Test

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  37. George Washington

    Test2

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  38. B

    Handing out sample flyers today. Soon, I'm meeting up with a lady Monday to establish a professional flyer. Then I will have approximately 1,000 flyers to hand out in the next few weeks for only a small amount of money. I'm also having pens designed to hand out to private and public organizations when I start giving speeches. I hope to have all this done early 2011. First group I will be giving speeches to are the nursing students at the university I graduated from. I have direct contact with many doctors who teach in very well known medical schools and next I will be discussing opportunities to give speeches at the schools they teach for. My fiance is a small business man who has given me the guidance to successfully completing this task. A huge thanks to all those who share your personal stories

    October 16, 2010 at 16:06 | Report abuse | Reply
  39. Martin

    Please email some of the parties at the NAID.GOV below and tell them we need some research dollars awarded for Herpes research today!

    http://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/findingpeople/dmid/Pages/stib.aspx

    October 16, 2010 at 23:06 | Report abuse | Reply
  40. B

    Martin,
    I tried to send an email, but I do not have my server informatio. I'll contact my internet provider Monday. Then, I will be able to send an email to some of the parties this week.

    October 17, 2010 at 00:51 | Report abuse | Reply
  41. B

    I gave up on herpes-coldsores.com. I don't believe this website cares for a cure. It's only worried about how people cope with a diagnosis of any type of herpes, but at the same time pretends as if they do support a cure. I recieve an email everytime I reply to a post. I keep breaking one of the 100 rules they have. Don't waste your time on that website. If you want change, you're better off donating directly to Dr. Bloom and Dr. Cullen. It's funny how the herpes-coldsores.com is willing to take your money to support a cure, but the moment you post a link about a cure, they quickly send you and email saying you're breaking the rules. Whatever. My fiance has eight business plans wrote out for non-profit organizations. He's helping me organize my own non-profit organization that will raise money for the cure, send out flyers, and speak to other organizations on how they can help support the cure. That herpes-coldsores website is not doing anything but sitting around listening to peoples HSV stories. I'll see a psychologist before I waste anymore time on that website.

    October 17, 2010 at 22:51 | Report abuse | Reply
  42. anna16

    @B

    You are right that stupid herpes-coldsores.com is a scam.
    The president of Herpes Cure Coalition –> LivingLife77 were banned from there before.
    If you want a website that really care and hoping for cure visit herpescureresearch.org

    October 18, 2010 at 00:58 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      Here is my email to the leaders of herpescuresearch.org. I haven't got a reply yet but maybe if you people contact them and tell them you would like to know why they are not jumping on a cure for herpes that can't be patented maybe they will reply to you. If herpescuresearch.org was really interested in cures they would have to ban themselves.

      Subject: Dr. David Bloom, Dr. Bryab Cullen, Boise's KTVB News, CNN News, HSV Petition

      Dear Mr Bloom and Mr Cullen,

      I have already contacted Bryan about existing and consistent cures for all types of HSV that cannot be patented and sold. I am now taking a moment to contact you both so that I can let people know that I am indeed in contact with you guys. I will continue to stay in contact with you because according to the CNN blog at (website removed to prevent moderating) you guys are the leading herpes researchers of the times and would like you to be aware of cures that already exist for herpes but cannot be patented and sold.

      According to the blog, University of Florida and Duke are both on the verge of major breakthroughs in curing herpes and the only thing said to be in your way is lack of funding hence the demands on the blog for more donations for your work. Now, I for one am willing to concede that both Duke and University of Florida have always been on some verge of a breakthrough or another for the past 100 years without every really breaking through so I feel it is important that the consumers and the Universities are made aware of existing cures that cannot be patented for herpes and other diseases. I know medicine and the media ignore cures that cannot be patented and I like to assume as such the cures are consequently hidden from you two and that you guys are indeed more interested in cures than profits so here I am making you aware of cures for herpes that cannot be patented.

      It is my intentions to share the cure with you guys, but due to the obvious corruption of medicine and media I cannot sit back and assume this email will be taken seriously so I have sent a copy of it to several media sources so they can also be made aware of cures that cannot be patented and therefore ignored and if they too choose to ignore the cures they can be held accountable as well. I will use this email for proving that the media, Duke University and University of Florida are indeed aware of cures, whether you choose to investigate them or not. You see the only way I am discredited is by the belief that if I was telling the truth about cures, you guys would be selling them and the media would be reporting them. This is why I am putting the ball in your courts. You can now prove that you guys or the media is truly interested in cures that cannot be patented and sold.

      My research (which has lead to consistent cures for diseases such as herpes, showing it is stronger than your research) has shown that a person with nail fungus (which you should already be aware is extremely common in people diagnosed with herpes) can also cure herpes with the prescription medicine Lamisil tablets used to cure nail fungus. I'm still waiting to hear of a case where Lamisil doesn't cure herpes or causes ill side effects. So far it is a perfect cure for herpes, but True Cures cures almost everything in the process of curing herpes which is why I do not use Lamisil to cure my clients of herpes, I use the immune system with complete consistency and it takes less than two weeks. In a nutshell I use the same immune response that powers the immune response behind every immune response you guys see in your blind studies. If need be for demonstration purposes, I can take a sugar pill and make it completely consistent at curing herpes because as you know the sugar pill has no healing qualities, it is the individual's own system generating the relief during your blind studies. True Cures doesn't stimulate relief, it stimulates an immune response that eliminates the pathogens known to cause the outbreaks which makes it a cure instead of relief.

      I have BCC'd several people from the blog above and numerous other potential clients who are waiting to be cured so they are aware that I am no longer assuming Duke and University of Florida isn't interested in cures that can't be patented. I didn't do it to imply anything about you guys or your work but to imply that I am willing to do my part to ensure that Duke and U of F is aware of True Cures for herpes and to make you aware personally. I have been very hard on Duke and the University of Florida on the blog and I would be grateful to be proven wrong about my assumptions. I have contacted many universities and research centers which is why I reached the negative conclusion that universities are not interested in cures that cannot be patented. I will also post a copy of this email on the blog.

      I hope to learn we are all on the same page and more interested in cures than money so I can retract my statements and give you the cure you have been searching for. I look forward to a response to my email or a response on any of the blogs this email is posted on.

      Sincerely,

      David Flowers, Owner
      True Cures: Restore your immune response.
      truecures.com
      healingunderground.com
      1134 South Park Street
      Payette, ID 83661
      208-741-0759

      Please reply and ask to be removed from the list if you do not wish to receive these emails.

      October 18, 2010 at 16:36 | Report abuse |
  43. David Flowers

    I cannot believe how you people talk down people who get banned for speaking out about herpes. If the the president of the Herpes Cure Coalition->LivingLiff77 was banned it could be just as likely they were banned for exposing facts that damage the industry of herpes.

    The garbage jay/john/blackngold all one and the same are posting about me is coming from someone who has banned me for curing their forum members of herpes. Jay/John banned not only me from the CureZone but almost a dozen other CureZone members who met and are cured.

    It would be very foolish to discredit someone for being banned. If blackngold a.k.a. john a.k.a. jay could they would ban me from here. Instead all they can do is tell you that I get banned all the time and tell you I am a con and a scam even though there is not one person out of thousands who have seen me who is claiming that I have scammed or conned them.

    Now, blackngold is a female from New York City who saw me in person under her hubpage handle positiveenergies. She followed me from her CureZone forum to hubpages and then met me under the pretense that she had herpes. She doesn't have herpes never had it. She saw me so she can have an idea of how she will attack the only consistent cure for herpes that consequently uses no products potentially putting the CureZone out of business. John/jay makes her living off of her sponsors on the CureZone.

    Make no mistake about it, blackngold is posting here under the pseudo names john, jay and who knows how many others. You can always tell when it is her because she post nothing but attacks and is prone to being a poet. She ALWAYS calls me a scam though there is no one asking for any money back from me.

    All she has to do is follow me around and post under any handle she wants and it will disrupt the discussion. I know there 20 people a day reading this forum who want to ask questions here but will not because of blackngold's behavior here. Instead they contact me in private which doesn't do anyone any good because I am not interested in curing anyone, I'm only interested in educating you all.

    All any of you have to do is ignore blackngold a.k.a. positiveenergies a.k.a. john a.k.a. jay and ask your questions here. PEOPLE, please understand I am not curing anyone of herpes anymore. YOUR ONLY CHANCE AT A CURE IS TO EDUCATE YOURSELVES. No petition is going to get you cured, no donations to Duke of University of Florida is going to get you cured and falling for he or she got banned means they do not have something to offer to ease the suffering of herpes is not going to get you cured.

    Naturally it is obvious that jay/john/positiveenergies/blackngold are not here looking for a cure. This blog was started by people wanting to know when there will be a cure yet you people let blackngold and the research beggars hi-jack the blog. Jay/john's sole purpose is to keep you off the cure trail.

    Educate yourselves. Herpes is easily cured by prescription Lamisil tablets. 8 out of 10 of you have nail fungus and can get a prescription from your doctor. For those of you who do not have nail fungus all you have is your immune system and that means you have no choice but to educate yourself or wait till your nails start turning yellow. Rest assured, if you have chronic OBs you will soon have chronic nail fungus.

    For those of you interested in cures and fed up with donating to the failing science of medicine take some time off from reading science fiction and medical fiction and read my articles on the following sites. There are purely informational and will be your ONLY chance at curing herpes until enough of you educate yourselves to force medicine to give everyone diagnosed with herpes Lamisil.

    Go to hubpages.com and search true cures to find my articles. Wade through the garbage by john/jay/bng/positiveenergies and see my hub pages.

    or

    healingunderground.com

    or

    truecures.com

    It's up to you.

    October 18, 2010 at 16:32 | Report abuse | Reply
  44. B

    The more and more I read about this virus, I'm realizing it's serving a purpose to be destroyed. It's the #1 cause of blindness in developed countries. The US is a developed country. Once you lose your vision, it's almost impossible to get it back. Several eyes drops daily and who knows how many surgeries later, you might be able to see again. Pharmaceutical companies will never lose money on a herpes cure. Why? After the billions of dollars they make from the "ribozyme" medication, vaccines will be required in childhood immunizations making billions more. Plus the antivirals now will be used to control other forms of the herpes viruses until a cure is designed for those.

    October 18, 2010 at 16:49 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      Hey Propaganda B,

      I see a hidden agenda in all your comments and still feel a need to discuss them. First of all, as far as you, I, your doctors, your lab workers know herpes isn't a virus at all so quite trying to convince people their nail fungus isn't related to their obs. More people get relief from their OB's from over the counter fungicides than they do ANY antiviral. And the only drug know to cure herpes is prescription strength Lamisil tablets and low and behold it cures the nail fungus as well as herpes and it it cures both pretty much every single time. Google Lamisil Cures Herpes Every Time.

      So Propaganda B, what says you? How is it fungicides offer more cures and relief for herpes if herpes is a virus? Why is it no one ever sees a herpes virus other than science fiction photos on the internet. Your doctor doesn't see them, your researchers do not see them, your lab techs who say some one test positive for them do not see them so how is you are willing to pump up the fear propaganda here when there simply IS NO EVIDENCE THAT HERPES IS A VIRUS OR EVEN MORE HARMFUL THAN A RASH?

      Another issue with the FEAR PROPAGANDA is this, here in the mid west where I live and every where else that doesn't PLAY UP THE HERPES FEAR PROPAGANDA people really don't get too worked up at all about herpes. Inland US doctors who will not diagnose someone with herpes unless they have sores and a positive blood test. They won't diagnose someone with herpes based on a positive blood test. Most inland doctors won't diagnose their patients with herpes unless they test positive in a swab or culture test even if they test positive on a blood test.

      Propaganda B, there is no evidence that herpes is virus, there is no evidence that herpes causes blindness and THERE CERTAINLY IS NO EVIDENCE THAT HERPES CAUSES SORES. If science and medicine was interested, they could find ENDLESS evidence that individual outbreaks are LOADED WITH FUNGUS!

      So Propaganda B, I'm going to do everything in my power to prevent you from turning people into a bunch of scared emotional rabbits here.

      CLEARLY YOUR AGENDA IS TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO BUYING YOUR KOOL-AID for the sole purpose of scaring them off from the truth.

      I'm sorry folks. You are going to have to fight for the truth. As long as people like Propaganda B, Duke and U of F are trying to scare you into an irrational state you will never make the connection between the herpes fungus and nail fungus. You will never learn that the sole called "HERPES" virus though almost 50% of Americans are thought to have "HERPES" has never been seen by anyone you or I know. No one has seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a fungus which is why Lamisil prescription tablets will cure it ever time.

      "HERPES" is nothing to be afraid of. The only thing you need to fear is fear itself and of course you need to fear Propaganda B because that's what B is about.

      truecures.com
      healingunderground.com
      hubpages.com with a search for True Cures

      October 18, 2010 at 18:14 | Report abuse |
  45. B

    DF,
    You are silly! Don't waste your time on me! Worry about curing people! Be glad you're talking through a computer screen. I wouldn't be so nice if we were face to face. Once again, life is too short to be mad at people.

    October 18, 2010 at 18:47 | Report abuse | Reply
  46. anna16

    DANGER!!! DANGER!!! DANGER!!!

    David Flowers is a SCAM......!!!

    DANGER!!! DANGER!!! DANGER!!!

    October 18, 2010 at 23:39 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      Anna 16, I will tell you like I told Propaganda B -a.k.a. B and Blackngold/john'jay/positiveenergies if you want to call me names maybe you should back up your name calling with some facts. Maybe you can prove you are not blackngold/john and do something original and show the good readers here just how I am a "scam". I will give you an outline to start your quest.

      A. Prove I have taken money from someone and refused to give it back.
      B. Prove that herpes isn't fungal in nature.
      C. Prove herpes testing detects actual herpes.
      D. Prove Lamisil doesn't cure herpes ever time.
      E. Prove the immune system cannot cure a tiny puny pathogen like herpes.
      F. Prove Duke and U of H is really looking for a cure through herpescureresearch.org!

      If you can prove or even reasonably dispute any of the outline you can start to build your claim that I am a scam. Otherwise you are just like Blackngold/john'jay/positiveenergies if you are not Blackngold/john'jay/positiveenergies. Your MOs are the same and your childish behavior is the same.

      For the readers here, no one on a hundred blogs has disputed any of the outline claims here. Because the cannot dispute these claims they rely on their only option to steer you away from the truth and that is to interrupt YOUR thought process by trying to emotionally charge you into being an emotional wreck. This is the reason for all their drama. Nothing I have posted, exposed or made public can harm anyone and ALL OF IT CAN CURE ANYONE. Yet they spit names at me like the our 6 years old with no disputes. They should all start their comments with nanny nanny boo boo!

      For the truth about your health read all my comments here on this blog or follow my shared information on..

      healingunderground.com
      truecures.com
      hubpages.com by Googling "lamisil cures herpes every time"

      I'm here to educate you so you can avoid the emotional drama and suffering by those calling me names instead of disputing my claims. You are the ONLY one responsible for your health.

      October 19, 2010 at 12:05 | Report abuse |
  47. B

    We should all post the herpse cure petition on our facebook accounts.

    October 18, 2010 at 23:59 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      Dear Propaganda B and all those following this blog. Propaganda B has exposed herself or himself as not having herpes or really being concerned about those of you with herpes.

      If B had herpes or new anything about your suffering with herpes or had any concerns about your suffering B would know that you wouldn't be interested in notifying all of your 100 to 400 friends that you feel a need to end herpes suffering just because you think it is a good cause.

      You see Propaganda B, people with herpes NEVER EVER openly share their story with anyone, not while they still have herpes and not after they are cured. If you had any experience with herpes you would know this.

      You are here for one reason and that is fishing for donations for Bloom and Cullen who have never showed any proof that they have any intentions of ending anyone's suffering. I haven't given up on them. I know Cullen is out of the country and maybe Bloom is too busy with his next patented product. But I won't hold my breath.

      Propaganda B, why don't you post a link to your facebook page so we can all be friends with you and see your wall say you have herpes.

      October 19, 2010 at 12:52 | Report abuse |
  48. Jay

    Hey David Flowers

    PLEASE ANSWER ME I have been rather unkind to you, well very unkind to you, but I will have a civil conversation with you

    I promise you my friend I am not from any of these other companies this was my own opinion of you I do have freedom of speech like all of us

    I was having a debate with my friends the other day in regards to diseases and why there isnt any cures

    We mainly talked about cancer and low and behold we were saying how much money we pour into research, if they found cures for these it would put alot of people out of business and stop alot of revenue coming in

    It would be the same for herpes, you are right in terms of people trying to find treatments rather than cures I can see your point. I will email bloom and cullen and find out what their thoughts are in regards to this also

    I can also see your point on regards to if someone had a cure why would they want it as all the revenue would stop from valtrex, acycloveir etc etc

    That does not mean that I think you can cure people though, your statement in regards to I have yellow nails? well I am sorry but I have had herpes simplex and complex for over 10 years and my nails are just fine

    One other thing that keeps steering me back to a cure for herpes is that there are cures for certain forms of hepatitus free and available to the public so why wouldnt herpes be?

    Also please do not attack B she is right herpes can lead to blindness if herpes got in your eye, its not just a rash my friend

    What I also still cant get an answer from you is WHY there are sooo many companies out there trying to find vaccines and cures for this.......some are privately funded like BIOVEX, why are they doing it them if you say they are just looking busy in a laboratory, they are not receiving donations

    October 19, 2010 at 08:13 | Report abuse | Reply
    • David Flowers

      Jay,

      I don't believe a word you say. For 15 years I worked strictly on a donation bases until you/blackngold/positiveenergies buddy buddied up to me to suggest I charge a fee and take away my guarantee to conform to business standards. It wasn't only you/blackngold/positiveenergies that persuaded me to create a set fee, I have a couple of successful business people as clients who also suggested it. However it was you/blackngold/positiveenergies that immediately jumped on my set fee as a scam even though I maintained the complete unconditional guarantee the whole 9 months I had a fee.

      Until you talked me into setting up a fee no one could call me a con, a scam or a fraud. No matter how much you/blackngold/positiveenergies hated me for what I was doing you had nothing to challenge me with or nothing to attack me with until I implemented a structured fee for less than a year out of 16 years of curing people and now the accusation of me being a con, scam or fraud is all I get from you/blackngold/positiveenergies even though I have never taken money from someone without a complete unconditional guarantee. There simply is nothing on this earth that can back up a scam or con accusation towards me but you POSTED it on hubpages SO TO THE MINDLESS CONSUMERS it must be true even though there is no evidence. That's alright because I don't work with mindless consumers. But to have you toss the bogus garbage claims around as if they have any merit is a bit of a nuisance when it buries my undisputed claims.

      And for the record you already got me with the "I have herpes" bit once. I won't fall for that again. You refer to you and your aliases as "other companies" just like positiveenergies would. You should have just stated you are not blackngold and started working on proving it.

      Furthermore it is hepatitis B free not "hepatitus free" which is exactly the way positiveenergies would misspell a word to make herself sound like someone else. She figures men cannot spell so that is part of her disguise. I'm not saying she isn't right about that but it is her disguise. There is no cure for hepatitis, none at all. If there were it would cure all hepatitis.

      You also said "I can also see your point on regards to if someone had a cure why would they want it as all the revenue would stop from valtrex, acycloveir etc etc". No you can't see my point, the revenue is a drop in the bucket compared to the money donated to universities. Donations are free. No one gets anything from their donations. It's like having a machine to produce your own money but you don't even have to pay for the paper, the ink or the machine to print it. All you have to do is go on a blog and hold out your hand with some Propaganda B fear tactics and the money pours in.

      You said "That does not mean that I think you can cure people though, your statement in regards to I have yellow nails? well I am sorry but I have had herpes simplex and complex for over 10 years and my nails are just fine"

      If you were not trying to bait me, you would know that it is my clients own immune system curing them of herpes not my immune system. Naturally you don't have nail fungus, if you did you would have herpes too.

      I will attack Propaganda B's claims when she says herpes can cause blindness. There is no proof that herpes causes sores so there certainly is no proof that herpes causes blindness. The eyes are very well protected with a very strong immunity. Eyes can destroy any pathogen, even herpes. Every single person in the world has gotten the pathogen responsible for herpes in their eye a million times and today you will get a dozen different very harmful pathogens in your eyes and hundreds of less harmful pathogens in your eyes without any consequences.

      That's right I said it. Everyone has come in contact with herpes. It is most likely we come in contact with the pathogen every single day of our lives because it is that common. The fact is, a person with a fully functioning True Cures immune system will kill the pathogen on contact and never be the wiser. AGAIN, you will come into contact with hundreds of diseases causing pathogens today and your immune system will cure them as in kill them the same way you could kill every last herpes pathogen in your body if you had the herpes pathogen.

      You said..."What I also still cant get an answer from you is WHY there are sooo many companies out there trying to find vaccines and cures for this.......some are privately funded like BIOVEX, why are they doing it them if you say they are just looking busy in a laboratory, they are not receiving donations."

      Oh, yes they are receiving donations in the form of GRANTS and millions of other private investors and they are not looking for a cure they are looking for the next greatest treatment which only has to be slightly better than Valtrex so they can sell the patent and move onto the next greatest treatment that only has to be slightly better than their last one AND THE BEAUTY OF IT IS, it only has to be slightly better on paper. It doesn't have to offer patients any more relief, it only has to have a better fabricated research claims to be considered slightly better.

      There is only ONE person known to work for free when it comes to ending the suffering of herpes and that is me. I would love for you or anyone to prove me wrong because anyone working for free without hopes of patenting products would join me and end the suffering.

      for information backing up my claims here see
      Google "Lamisil cures herpes every time" and see my hubpage article
      truecures.com
      healingunderground.com

      October 19, 2010 at 12:45 | Report abuse |
  49. David Flowers

    @ B – a.k.a. Propaganda B

    Why would you assume I am mad? What in my comment to you made me seem mad or irrational. I'm pretty sure my comment was clear and to the point and by your lack of dispute and false accusation of me being angry I would say my comment to you was like the rest of my comments and completely indisputable. Here it is again, pick something without getting angry and dispute it please.

    Hey Propaganda B,

    I see a hidden agenda in all your comments and still feel a need to discuss them. First of all, as far as you, I, your doctors, your lab workers know herpes isn't a virus at all so quite trying to convince people their nail fungus isn't related to their obs. More people get relief from their OB's from over the counter fungicides than they do ANY antiviral. And the only drug know to cure herpes is prescription strength Lamisil tablets and low and behold it cures the nail fungus as well as herpes and it it cures both pretty much every single time. Google Lamisil Cures Herpes Every Time.

    So Propaganda B, what says you? How is it fungicides offer more cures and relief for herpes if herpes is a virus? Why is it no one ever sees a herpes virus other than science fiction photos on the internet. Your doctor doesn't see them, your researchers do not see them, your lab techs who say some one test positive for them do not see them so how is you are willing to pump up the fear propaganda here when there simply IS NO EVIDENCE THAT HERPES IS A VIRUS OR EVEN MORE HARMFUL THAN A RASH?

    Another issue with the FEAR PROPAGANDA is this, here in the mid west where I live and every where else that doesn't PLAY UP THE HERPES FEAR PROPAGANDA people really don't get too worked up at all about herpes. Inland US doctors who will not diagnose someone with herpes unless they have sores and a positive blood test. They won't diagnose someone with herpes based on a positive blood test. Most inland doctors won't diagnose their patients with herpes unless they test positive in a swab or culture test even if they test positive on a blood test.

    Propaganda B, there is no evidence that herpes is virus, there is no evidence that herpes causes blindness and THERE CERTAINLY IS NO EVIDENCE THAT HERPES CAUSES SORES. If science and medicine was interested, they could find ENDLESS evidence that individual outbreaks are LOADED WITH FUNGUS!

    So Propaganda B, I'm going to do everything in my power to prevent you from turning people into a bunch of scared emotional rabbits here.

    CLEARLY YOUR AGENDA IS TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO BUYING YOUR KOOL-AID for the sole purpose of scaring them off from the truth.

    I'm sorry folks. You are going to have to fight for the truth. As long as people like Propaganda B, Duke and U of F are trying to scare you into an irrational state you will never make the connection between the herpes fungus and nail fungus. You will never learn that the sole called "HERPES" virus though almost 50% of Americans are thought to have "HERPES" has never been seen by anyone you or I know. No one has seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a fungus which is why Lamisil prescription tablets will cure it ever time.

    "HERPES" is nothing to be afraid of. The only thing you need to fear is fear itself and of course you need to fear Propaganda B because that's what B is about.

    truecures.com
    healingunderground.com
    hubpages.com with a search for True Cures

    October 19, 2010 at 11:51 | Report abuse | Reply
  50. B

    @DF

    "Machiavellianism has a bad reputation. Being called “Machiavellian” is never praise. In popular usage, it refers to a someone who is sneaky, conniving, deceitful, and untrustworthy. A Machiavellian person is often thought to be indifferent to ethical and moral considerations in the same way that a sociopath is incapable of sympathy or compassion. Sometimes the Machiavellian is imagined to be someone who actually prefers double-dealing, back-stabbing methods to any others". Only half of the people on here state you're a con artist. I like to know where you went to medical school. Did you graduate? Do you have a PhD? Are you a real person? Did the devil send you here to betray people? I would love to read your faulty research on natural cures. Talk to you later Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli ......

    October 19, 2010 at 13:44 | Report abuse | Reply
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